Re: How does complex behavior spontaneously emerge in the brain?

2013-08-26 Thread Chris de Morsella
How does complex behavior spontaneously emerge in the brain? http://phys.org/news/2013-08-complex-behavior-spontaneously-emerge-brain.html     Quoting from article: In a new study published in Nature Physics, a team of researchers from Spain has shown that emergence in neuronal networks can be ex

Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-26 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:55 AM Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > I say quite clearly that and I repeat

Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

2013-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > I say quite clearly that and I repeat -- I am not interested in nor do > I much care whether humans are superior or inferior to computers. Take me > at my word when I say I don’t really care one way or the other, that this > horse race

RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood

2013-08-26 Thread Chris de Morsella
John -- Not interested in placing any more wear and tear on your brain. Either we discuss or we don't. I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected and popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and replaced by fascist dictators (one of whom had dynast

Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood

2013-08-26 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: > >> And yes half a century ago the CIA over through some 2 bit leaders in >> Chile and Iran, big deal. >> > > John you are either grossly ignorant of history, or squeeze it like > toothpaste through the aperture of your ideological point o

Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood

2013-08-26 Thread John Clark
A professional ass who goes by the pseudonym because he's understandably too embarrassed to give his real name wrote: > Agree or disagree with me, but it's something that can be debated. > Dear Mr. Ass I'm a bit confused by your use of the word "debated". In your previous post you proved your

RE: Leibniz's two types of existence based on the two types of logic

2013-08-26 Thread chris peck
Hi Roger Just persevere. It took ages before he listened to me regarding black holes. All the best. > From: rclo...@verizon.net > To: spudboy...@aol.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Re: Leibniz's two types of existence based on the two types of > logic > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 20

Re: Re: Leibniz's two types of existence based on the two types of logic

2013-08-26 Thread Roger Clough
Hi spudboy100 Yes, but Penrose ignores all of my attempts to help him, if that's the right word. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough - Receiving the following content - From: spudboy100 Receiver: every

Re: Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change

2013-08-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:26:36AM -0400, Richard Ruquist wrote: > It should be mentioned that final causation requires downward causation to > be operative. Why? The principle of least action in Lagrangian dynamics is an apparent final causation, but no downward causation is in play, as there ar

Re: Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change

2013-08-26 Thread Richard Ruquist
It should be mentioned that final causation requires downward causation to be operative. See George Ellis for examples of downward causation at the human level. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1212/1212.2275.pdf Recognising Top-Down Causation George Ellis, University of Cape Town Abstract: One

Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change

2013-08-26 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change So far, materialistic models of the mind, such as Dennett's, are essentially passive. There is no internal active agent of change, which one might call the Self. The internal active agent of change is desire, which we might de

Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change

2013-08-26 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz's final causation as the Self, the active agent of change So far, materialistic models of the mind, such as Dennett's, are essentially passive. There is no internal active agent of change, which one might call the Self. The internal active agent of change is desire, which we might de