Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jul 2014, at 22:55, meekerdb wrote: On 7/6/2014 4:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That's the whole point and burden of my analysis. So on that basis I disagree that the same kind of thing can be done in a physical theory. On the comp assumption, by contrast, belief in a truth and

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Jul 2014, at 15:31, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 06 Jul 2014, at 05:18, meekerdb wrote: On 7/5/2014 5:08 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 5 July 2014 06:27, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Ok, maybe it's mostly a

Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Everything you post is an attempt at derision, which is an attempt to fudge things, or as Alinsky opined, freeze it, attack it. However this avoids answeing a question or two. Its not that tough a question. Under what circumstances would you chose to send US soldiers into war? -- You

Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Everything you post is an attempt at derision, Why? You post your prejudice and will to use force against entire cultural/religious community, most with no military ambition whatsoever. I

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread David Nyman
On 6 July 2014 04:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Yes, but it's a theory of epistemology after the physical fact. It assumes without further justification what it wishes to prove, No, it defines a certain kind of belief, just as Bruno identifies belief with provable in some

RE: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Everything you post is an attempt at derision, which is an attempt to fudge things, or as Alinsky opined, freeze it, attack it. However this avoids answeing a question or two. Its not

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-07 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Then why have IARC (International Agency for Research on Cancer) studies linked exposure to Radon gas to increased lung cancer (as well as Leukemia) rates? As I said nobody doubts

Re: How dangerous is radiation?

2014-07-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:59 AM Subject: Re: How dangerous is radiation? On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:29 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread meekerdb
On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David Nyman wrote: On 6 July 2014 04:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Yes, but it's a theory of epistemology after the physical fact. It assumes without further justification what it wishes to prove, No, it defines

RE: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
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Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: What would trigger you to send troops? Not what you wouldn't do, but what conditions you would? No more evasion, please. When would yo go to war? I answered this. You do not return courtesy

A world without elephants...

2014-07-07 Thread LizR
...would be a less surreal place. Also, we drove the mammoths extinct (literally, in fact) so let's make it up to their relatives. I find it hard to imagine a world without elephants, where's the fun in that? Please sign this petition, in case you are the person who tips the balance...

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread LizR
On 8 July 2014 07:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David Nyman wrote: We can clearly understand in what way Mark Twain and Sam Clemens were identical, but it is somewhat less easy to fathom in any equivalent sense how such heterogeneous concepts as mind and

Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Plato, you cannot answer for Chris, sorry to say. Your presentation of the majority of Islam, as benign and peacable, is inaccurate at best. This isn't the religion of pace anymore then Christainity has been the religion of peace. You cannot answer for somebody else on this group. If it was

Re: A world without elephants...

2014-07-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The guy Gelerntner, of Havard, I think, just proposed that African elephants be brought to the US, to preserve the species. These are dangerous suckers so I agree with some hesitation. A species I woulsn't allow in on wildlife reservations, would be the face eating chimpanzees. According to

Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Plato, you cannot answer for Chris, sorry to say. Your presentation of the majority of Islam, as benign and peacable, is inaccurate at best. You clarify this belief of yours, ok I think I

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread meekerdb
On 7/7/2014 3:18 PM, LizR wrote: On 8 July 2014 07:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David Nyman wrote: We can clearly understand in what way Mark Twain and Sam Clemens were identical, but it is somewhat less easy to fathom

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread LizR
On 8 July 2014 11:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 3:18 PM, LizR wrote: On 8 July 2014 07:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David Nyman wrote: We can clearly understand in what way Mark Twain and Sam Clemens were identical, but it is

Re: RE: American Intelligence

2014-07-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com What would trigger you to send troops? Not what you wouldn't do, but what conditions you would? No more evasion, please. When would yo go to war? Dude, did you get appointed to the bench?

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread meekerdb
On 7/7/2014 5:21 PM, LizR wrote: On 8 July 2014 11:49, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 3:18 PM, LizR wrote: On 8 July 2014 07:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/7/2014 8:14 AM, David

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread LizR
On 8 July 2014 14:19, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: I think comp implies that we won't have created consciousness, but we will have enabled some of the consciousness that exists by hypothesis in arithmetic to manifest itself. (Could this imply a test for comp, by the way?) That's

Re: What's the answer? What's the question?

2014-07-07 Thread meekerdb
On 7/7/2014 7:34 PM, LizR wrote: On 8 July 2014 14:19, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: I think comp implies that we won't have created consciousness, but we will have enabled some of the consciousness that exists by hypothesis in arithmetic to