Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett wrote: John Clark wrote: Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett > What's wrong with oblivion? It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there is no disputing maters of taste. If you are made total oblivious -- enter oblivion -- you are no longer around to worry abou

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread Pierz
On Sunday, December 21, 2014 3:17:15 AM UTC+5:45, zibble...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, December 19, 2014 11:48:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote:So a close friend > of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova in it. It's not a sci > fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary but pro

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread Pierz
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:03:45 AM UTC+5:45, Liz R wrote: > Well I happen to know someone with a bachelor degree in astrophysics if > that's any help. And the first and most crucial question is, how close is the > SN to Earth? > Right. I've been looking into that and decided around 150ly

Re: Intelligence & Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread Jason Resch
As with split brain patients and other humans, if some part of the brain isn't connected to the part of the brain that talks, we really can't conclude those other parts doing other processing are unconscious. It's like me concluding your not conscious because I don't know what your thinking. It's a

Re: Intelligence & Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread meekerdb
On 12/20/2014 6:19 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, > wrote: > Part of how you sum up your core insight: that consciousness has no detectable objective reality No, I'm saying that consciousness DOES have a detectable objective real

I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Bruce Kellett wrote: > John Clark wrote: > >> Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they >> were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they >> believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is unnecessary. Well, if Everet

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Samiya Illias
> On 21-Dec-2014, at 6:30 am, John Clark wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett wrote: >> > >> > What's wrong with oblivion? > > It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there > is no disputing maters of taste. > > John K Clark The Hereafter! Now i

Re: Intelligence & Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:07 PM, wrote: > Part of how you sum up your core insight: that consciousness has no > detectable objective reality > No, I'm saying that consciousness DOES have a detectable objective reality if and only if it's a brute fact that consciousness is the way data feels like

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 Bruce Kellett wrote: > What's wrong with oblivion? > It's just not my cup of tea, but if you feel differently that's fine, there is no disputing maters of taste. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

Re: Democracy

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:36:08 AM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:24 PM, meekerdb > wrote: > > On 12/19/2014 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR > > wrote: > > On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > > >

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Friday, December 19, 2014 11:48:34 AM UTC, Pierz wrote: > > So a close friend of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova > in it. It's not a sci fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary > but provides a nice backdrop to the literary main fare. I've read the > manusc

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread Bruce Kellett
John Clark wrote: Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is unnecessary. Well, if Everett is correct then you've already signed up for Cryonics in som

Re: Intelligence & Consciousness

2014-12-20 Thread zibblequibble
On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:45:04 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:33 AM, > > wrote: > > > I apologize for this unreadable drivel >> > > But with a real flare for writing unreadable drivel you could go far in > the psychology or philosophy departments at any unive

RE: Natural gas: The fracking fallacy

2014-12-20 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
In depth article in Nature warning against the current unfounded euphoric optimism regarding the scale of the future supply of shale gas (&oil). This is a long in depth article based on a Texas study that has taken a much finer grained look at reserves than the EIA did and based on their much fi

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-20 Thread John Clark
Somebody said that they didn't want to sign up for Cryonics because they were worried about ending up as a brain in a vat, and in any case they believed in Everett's Many Worlds so it is unnecessary. Well, if Everett is correct then you've already signed up for Cryonics in some universe and you are

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM, LizR wrote: > > Why didn't Churchill revolt? > > Well... > > He was a Tory and born into the nobility, part of an illustrious family, > as well as being the Prime Minister who led the UK to victory against the > Nazis. That probably made him feel that *he* was

Re: Democracy

2014-12-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:32 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR wrote: >>> >>> They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so >>> powerful. >>> >> >> Are you sure that more powerful hand-hel