Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

This is like saying: If you replace part of the computer screen with drawings made on a piece of paper, what does this indicate ? Well... it indicates that on the part replaced with the piece of paper, nothing will happen anymore. On Wednesday, 24 April 2019 01:41:14 UTC+3, stathisp wrote: > >

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 6:28 pm, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Only if you never did some serious thinking you can consider AI can be > conscious. Is not at all the same thing like other similar statements > across history like "objects heavier than

for Cosmin

Some people who were born deaf have been given cochlear implants, which give them the ability to hear for the first time . For them, this is new qualia they've never experienced. But it's only possible because of a technical device interfacing with their

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

There is a special kind of "recognition of patterns in prior qualia". When I see a color, the color automatically includes in it various sub-levels: shades-of-gray, black-and-white, vividness, Self, etc. But this is not necessarily about prior qualia. It might be on an evolutionary context, in

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

You are confusing the Self with the ego. On Friday, 19 April 2019 15:50:16 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > With (panpsychic-experiential) materialism: > > - the self is not eternal :( [ of course you could be frozen in the > hope for some future technology ]) > - it is an independent con

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Friday, 19 April 2019 13:27:58 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Apr 2019, at 12:17, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > recursion. > > > That's precisely what self-reference is not. And I specifically point this in the book. > The universal

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 1:06:59 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > So what does "computer science" has to do with consciousness ? > Computer science has to do with consciousness only when it turns to experience (vs. information) processing. https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/ex

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

Time will tell. Uncovering the power of glial cellsBrain implants can rely on more than neurons to function https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180108130158.htm - pt On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:12:35 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > Besides, "artificial neurons" that "fully mi

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

So what does "computer science" has to do with consciousness ? It seems to me that you just make a random connection. On Friday, 19 April 2019 13:12:03 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Apr 2019, at 09:16, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > It's

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

That's just a random definition that doesn't mean anything. On Friday, 19 April 2019 12:27:18 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > With mechanism, the observer is just a number/machine, relative to some > other numbers/machines. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

Actually, this is precisely what existence is: that which is immediately knowable. I see red, thus red exists. On Friday, 19 April 2019 12:21:10 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > I doubt that existence is immediately knowable, etc. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

Besides, "artificial neurons" that "fully mimic" is just a shocking amazing ZOMG news title, not a serious statement. Nobody knows how a neuron works, and they already mimic that behavior ? trololol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List"

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

You first said that injuries "are being repaired" and then you give me links with maybes and coulds. Maybe Santa Claus will help us all in the end. Amen! On Tuesday, 23 April 2019 11:44:35 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > > *Artificial Neurons Could Replace Some Real Ones In Your Brain* > A n

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

When engaging someone like Cosmin and trying to understand where he's coming from, I'd rather ask questions based on common understanding / null-hypothesis first, rather than muddy the water with my own loosely held philosophy. I'm probing to see if his ideas are consistent... I don't have an agend

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 07:13, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 4/22/2019 6:32 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:51 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> >> On 4/22/2019 4:24 PM, Jaso

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 03:32, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 7:51 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > > On 4/22/2019 4:24 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 3:16 AM Bruno Marchal >

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 23 Apr 2019, at 01:24, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 3:16 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 02:56, Martin Abramson > > wrote: >> >> Consciousness is a program. > > Consciousness might be rel

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 4:00:26 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2019, at 23:14, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 2:53:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 04:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 21 Apr 2019, at 11:48, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, at 11:21, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 18 Apr 2019, at 15:36, Telmo Menezes >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, at 18:45, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 17 Ap

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

> On 20 Apr 2019, at 01:15, Terren Suydam wrote: > > 1) I'm not sure I can make sense of the term 'influence' without causation. > In every instance I can think of, to influence something means to exert some > kind of force on it such that it behaves differently then it otherwise would > have

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

> On 21 Apr 2019, at 08:07, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 4:14:27 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 2:53:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 04:08, agrays...@gmail.com <> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thurs

Re: Questions about the Equivalence Principle (EP) and GR

> On 20 Apr 2019, at 23:14, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 2:53:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 04:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:53:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> Sorry, I don't rememb

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

*Artificial Neurons Could Replace Some Real Ones In Your Brain* A new way to fix neurological disorders - https://www.popsci.com/these-artificial-neurons-work-organic-ones *Scientists Have Built Artificial Neurons That Fully Mimic Human Brain Cells* - https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-b

Re: My book "I Am" published on amazon

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 7:42:07 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/22/2019 4:01 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:39:34 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4/22/2019 2:17 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-5, Bre

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:24:37 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > >> The above reminded me of this quote from Alan Turing: > > Personally I think that spirit is really eternally connected with matter > but certainly not always by the same kind of body. I did believe it > possible for a spirit at

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

Link please. On Tuesday, 23 April 2019 02:16:15 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > But damaged brains are being repaired today by implanting new (perhaps > synthetic, polymer-based) neurons, and full consciousness is restored. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

I'm just using my reason. I'm not a shallow thinker. Have a look at this guy's blog to see countless arguments for why memories are not stored in the brain: https://headtruth.blogspot.com/2019/02/brains-store-memories-dogma-versus.html This is just one example, but you can explore more on his b

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

You apparently have the illusion that you know too much about embryology that you start to imagine answers where there are none. On Tuesday, 23 April 2019 01:00:57 UTC+3, Brent wrote: > > You apparently don't know much about embryology. But that's to be > expected since you think all knowledge

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems

Yes, to protect the system of interacting consciousnesses. On Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:57:57 UTC+3, Brent wrote: > > > Do you wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from