On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:24:37 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote:
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>> The above reminded me of this quote from Alan Turing:
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> Personally I think that spirit is really eternally connected with matter
> but certainly not always by the same kind of body. I did believe it
> possible for a spirit at death to go to a universe entirely separate from
> our own, but now I consider that matter and spirit are so connected that
> this would be a contradiction in terms. It is possible however but unlikely
> that such universes may exist.
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> Then as regards the actual connection between spirit and body I
> consider that the body by reason of being a living body can ``attract´´ and
> hold on to a ``spirit,´´ whilst the body is alive and awake the two are
> firmly connected. When the body is asleep I cannot guess what happens but
> when the body dies the ``mechanism´´ of the body, holding the spirit is
> gone and the spirit finds a new body sooner or later perhaps immediately.
>
> Jason
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I don't think I've seen this quote of Turing before, but it immediately
reminds me of *Epicurus *(an ancient panpsychist):
[SEP: Epicurus]
Having established the physical basis of the world, Epicurus proceeds to
explain the nature of the soul (this, at least, is the order in which
Lucretius sets things out). This too, of course, consists of atoms: first,
there is nothing that is not made up of atoms and void (secondary qualities
are simply accidents of the arrangement of atoms), and second, an
incorporeal entity could neither act on nor be moved by bodies, as the soul
is seen to do (e.g., it is conscious of what happens to the body, and it
initiates physical movement). Epicurus maintains that soul atoms are
particularly fine and are distributed throughout the body, and it is by
means of them that we have sensations (aisthêseis) and the experience of
pain and pleasure, which Epicurus calls pathê (a term used by Aristotle and
others to signify emotions instead).
*Body without soul atoms is unconscious and inert, and when the atoms of
the body are disarranged so that it can no longer support conscious life,
the soul atoms are scattered and no longer retain the capacity for
sensation. *
~~~
(Since atoms - either physical (body) or psychical (soul) atoms are not
destroyed in Epicurus's materialism, the psychical atoms which were
"scattered" end up in someone's new body at some point.)
- pt
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