Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Jesse Mazer
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 1:48 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have > concerns over these particular vaccines based on how public health policy > has been conducted over the last 2+ years. You may be disappointed to > find out that it's

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/20/2022 4:08 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote: You can stay in the bubble if you'd like, and ignore the shift in public perception, but it's clearly real, and is not just a fringe when only 14% of the US population has gotten the latest booster.   If people actually had a large amount of

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 11:57, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I have had the Pfizer shots and advocate these for most of our population. > On the other hand, if some people have allergic reactions to these shots > causing clotting and cardiomyopathy,

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have had the Pfizer shots and advocate these for most of our population. On the other hand, if some people have allergic reactions to these shots causing clotting and cardiomyopathy, why would anyone sane demand that they take medicine that will surely kill them? What kind of people demand

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am willing to investigate to see if there are any problems with mRNA vaccines. If not, excellent. If there are, I want to know? You don't wish to know is your thing. What you started as a dem-loyalty post back-fired as it does outside the venue of this wee mailing list, thinking that people

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Dylan Distasio
You can stay in the bubble if you'd like, and ignore the shift in public perception, but it's clearly real, and is not just a fringe when only 14% of the US population has gotten the latest booster. If people actually had a large amount of confidence in public authorities and actually believed

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/20/2022 10:47 AM, Dylan Distasio wrote: I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have concerns over these particular vaccines based on how public health policy has been conducted over the last 2+ years.   You may be disappointed to find out that it's not just

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 1:48 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > *I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have > concerns over these particular vaccines* > If they do it's because of constant scaremongering about the safety of the mRNA vaccine from right wing anti-science religious

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Dylan Distasio
I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have concerns over these particular vaccines based on how public health policy has been conducted over the last 2+ years. You may be disappointed to find out that it's not just righty wingnuts who are questioning the reliability and

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:39 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > * > Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot > of people sick and then dead.* *BULLSHIT! *And it is people just like you spreading this sort of quack

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I like the idea of people getting vaccinated. I oppose coercion, to ensure people who receive that vaccinations don't die of adverse reactions. I oppose those who appear to demand the vaccinations as a loyalty oath. It's simply a matter of identifying whether there is any true to the death rate

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Your medical commentary also points out the efficacy of a 100K carrier being taken down by a 100K PLA missile.  To the point, you are always continually caviling about the stupid, white, Trumpies avoiding the vax and threatening your personal wellbeing. Well, it now appears vaccine aversion is

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, it was over the top, but it's the best I could find in a quick moment.  It begs the question why rush to defend big pharma if it does sloppy work and insufficiently warned people about adverse reactions? There seems a strong likelihood that screening for adverse reactions could be put

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
There's also Makary at Johns Hopkins. I am more concerned that people get coerced into taking a vax they medically shouldn't.Your medical speculation isn't any better or worse than any other member of the public. I see a increase in the death toll of athletes who shouldn't be keeling over.

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Such a nice little proggie puppet! Delightfully cheering. It looks great for DeSantis. If people oppose him, it won't be for have a grand jury look at the malpractices of the Dem party funder$. Back to the science article, and we are talking about 2 things.  Statically we are looking at 1/100 of

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Lawrence Crowell
This tee-shirt is nauseating. LC On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:08:56 AM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > The language is Hindi I believe. > There are others looking at the vaccines more carefully than you and John. > Advocacy journalism follows: > >

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM wrote: > > *>People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by >> ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or >> obedience to the Democratic

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-20 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM wrote: *>People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by > ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or > obedience to the Democratic Party? * > I'm for not knocking a 100,000 ton nuclear aircraft carrier out of