On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:39 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> * > Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot
> of people sick and then dead.*


*BULLSHIT! *And it is people just like you spreading this sort of quack
medical advice that is killing people, thousands and thousands of people
every fucking day.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
uty




Such a nice little proggie puppet!
>
> Delightfully cheering.
>
> It looks great for DeSantis. If people oppose him, it won't be for have a
> grand jury look at the malpractices of the Dem party funder$.
>
> Back to the science article, and we are talking about 2 things.
> Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot of
> people sick and then dead. Secondly, these are young people. who went along
> and then died. No pre-screening, just Dem insistence and coercion about
> taking the drug. People, including families of those who may have been
> killed, will likely seek retribution.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com>
> To: spudboy...@aol.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 2:51 am
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Death, science, and politics
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2022 11:08 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
>
> The language is Hindi I believe.
>
>
> That's all you've got say about your Champion.
>
> There are others looking at the vaccines more carefully than you and John.
> Advocacy journalism follows:
>
> https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-study-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-elderly-et/
> Core report:
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22014931
>
>
> Typical bad medical statistics.  They set a threshold for significance of
> 1% false positive, but then applied it to 14 different "outcomes".  If
> there's a 1% chance of error that's 99% chance of no error...on each test.
> So the probability of finding at least one false positive is 0.99^14=0.869
> or 13%.
>
> And what is the only "outcome" they identified as significant: Pulmonary
> embolism in in the inpatient setting.  In other words vaccinated persons
> who were also inpatients had a significantly higher risk of PE.  Don't
> suppose it could have anything to do with lying prone a lot, or being in a
> hospital with other sick people.
>
>
> Counter argument-
> DeSantis' anti-vax grand jury petition suggests that a rise in
> cardiac-related mortality in young people might be caused by vaccines. Of
> course, if you actually look at the study, you'll see—shockingly—that the
> rise predates vaccination. Because it's mostly due to COVID itself.
>
> I am willing to find out whether it (the vax) does or does not present a
> danger to a minority of the public.
>
> Define "danger".  One in chance in a thousand?  ten thousand?  hundred
> thousand?
>
>
> Bhattacharya is a prof at Stanford and that is one thing neither you nor I
> are.
>
> And I know statistics which neither you nor he do.
>
>
> For the democrat practice of character assassination (which work great for
> your team members but not ours) there is Professor Makary, at Johns
> Hopkins, who sides with Bhattacharya.
>
>
> Oh well, now I'm really impressed there's some other guy who's taken
> sides.  Too bad nobody has an argument or data.
>
>
> @JohnsHopkins <https://twitter.com/JohnsHopkins>
> professor,
> @theNAMedicine <https://twitter.com/theNAMedicine>
> member,
> @harvardchansph <https://twitter.com/harvardchansph>
> alum, author of 2 NYT bestselling books. Honest debate is healthy, I can
> be persuaded
>
>
> "Lancet study of Covid+ and - teens found “poor well-being, fatigue &
> Long COVID were broadly similar” but loneliness increased steadily. Take
> home message—Long-covid is not the mass disabling complication that has
> permanently damaged a generation of children, social isolation is."
> All I want is to find out so as to save lives.
>
>
> If that were true you'd be advocating that all the unvaccinated Trumpkins
> get vaccinations.
>
> It would seem that practicing public health should be adjustable to
> discoveries in medical science.
> Seems sensible at first blush. Unless there are underlying financial or
> obsessive-compulsive disorders happening?
> Or, more directly to your flavor of your discussions: (Get Ready..)
> If ya want Trump back, this is how ya get More Trump!!! (Laughter placed
> here) :" Bwah ha hah hah hah...."
> Meanwhile,in a home in Florida-DeSantis Saves, Jesus too? Moses Invests,
> & Elvis Surfs
> Meaning, if you wish to hurt DeSantis and now you may be on Don's side in
> this, you won't hurt his chances by focusing on his grand jury move. He'd
> have to look weak against Newsome of Cal. The only thing Newsome has
> going for him is that he has been far, more, active, than Joe-Kamala on
> Renewable energy. How significant in 24 will this be, we have way of
> knowing now. As one dem pollster said back on November 10th, if DeSantis
> can beat Trump in the primaries, there is no one on the Democratic side
> that can beat him.
>
> And they're saying De Sanctimonious has no chance against The Stable
> Genius.
>
> Why do you bother to type this made up shit?
>
> Brent
>
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