I am willing to investigate to see if there are any problems with mRNA vaccines. If not, excellent. If there are, I want to know? You don't wish to know is your thing. What you started as a dem-loyalty post back-fired as it does outside the venue of this wee mailing list, thinking that people will line up with you against DeSantis is what this is all about. People want to know the medical truth. If you think this hating on DeSantis will ensure another 4 years for Joey, knock yourself out. Convincing Americans that that shouldn't have accurate medical knowledge won't go over well. Personally, I hope there is nothing to the mRNA accusation. Because it makes life easier.
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: meekerbr...@gmail.com <meekerbr...@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 12:41 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:39 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot of people sick and then dead. BULLSHIT! And it is people just like you spreading this sort of quack medical advice that is killing people, thousands and thousands of people every fucking day. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis uty Such a nice little proggie puppet! Delightfully cheering. It looks great for DeSantis. If people oppose him, it won't be for have a grand jury look at the malpractices of the Dem party funder$. Back to the science article, and we are talking about 2 things. Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot of people sick and then dead. Secondly, these are young people. who went along and then died. No pre-screening, just Dem insistence and coercion about taking the drug. People, including families of those who may have been killed, will likely seek retribution. -----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <meekerbr...@gmail.com> To: spudboy...@aol.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 2:51 am Subject: Re: Fwd: Death, science, and politics On 12/19/2022 11:08 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: The language is Hindi I believe. That's all you've got say about your Champion. There are others looking at the vaccines more carefully than you and John. Advocacy journalism follows: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-study-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-elderly-et/ Corereport: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22014931 Typical bad medical statistics. They set a threshold for significance of 1% false positive, but then applied it to 14 different "outcomes". If there's a 1% chance of error that's 99% chance of no error...on each test. So the probability of finding at least one false positive is 0.99^14=0.869 or 13%. And what is the only "outcome" they identified as significant: Pulmonary embolism in in the inpatient setting. In other words vaccinated persons who were also inpatients had a significantly higher risk of PE. Don't suppose it could have anything to do with lying prone a lot, or being in a hospital with other sick people. Counter argument- DeSantis' anti-vax grand jury petition suggests that a rise in cardiac-related mortality in young people might be caused by vaccines. Of course, if you actually look at the study, you'll see—shockingly—that the rise predates vaccination. Because it's mostly due to COVID itself. I am willing to find out whether it (the vax) does or does not present a danger to a minority of the public. Define "danger". One in chance in a thousand? ten thousand? hundred thousand? Bhattacharya is a prof at Stanford and that is one thing neither you nor I are. And I know statistics which neither you nor he do. For the democrat practice of character assassination (which work great for your team members but not ours) there is Professor Makary, at Johns Hopkins, who sides with Bhattacharya. Oh well, now I'm really impressed there's some other guy who's taken sides. Too bad nobody has an argument or data. @JohnsHopkins professor, @theNAMedicine member, @harvardchansph alum, author of 2 NYT bestselling books. Honest debate is healthy, I can be persuaded "Lancet study of Covid+ and - teens found “poor well-being, fatigue & Long COVID were broadly similar” but loneliness increased steadily. Take home message—Long-covid is not the mass disabling complication that has permanently damaged a generation of children, social isolation is." All I want is to find out so as to save lives. If that were true you'd be advocating that all the unvaccinated Trumpkins get vaccinations. It would seem that practicing public health should be adjustable to discoveries in medical science. Seems sensible at first blush. Unless there are underlying financial or obsessive-compulsive disorders happening? Or, more directly to your flavor of your discussions: (Get Ready..) If ya want Trump back, this is how ya get More Trump!!! (Laughter placed here) :" Bwah ha hah hah hah...." Meanwhile,in a home in Florida-DeSantis Saves, Jesus too? Moses Invests, & Elvis Surfs Meaning, if you wish to hurt DeSantis and now you may be on Don's side in this, you won't hurt his chances by focusing on his grand jury move. He'd have to look weak against Newsome of Cal. The only thing Newsome has going for him is that he has been far, more, active, than Joe-Kamala on Renewable energy. How significant in 24 will this be, we have way of knowing now. As one dem pollster said back on November 10th, if DeSantis can beat Trump in the primaries, there is no one on the Democratic side that can beat him. And they're saying De Sanctimonious has no chance against The Stable Genius. Why do you bother to type this made up shit? Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/810555212.683349.1671554347844%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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