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2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough
- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 13:05:33 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 08 Jan 2013, at 15:37, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal IMHO It doesn't matter what type of field. According to the definition below, a field

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2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 11:07:17 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy ? Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. ? How is opinion

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2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough
the chair. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/9/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 12:40:25 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so

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2013-01-08 Thread Roger Clough
: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 17:58:06 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/7/2013 4:16 AM, Roger Clough wrote: But natural selection implies some form of intelligence, You don't understand evolution. Brent -- You received

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2013-01-08 Thread Roger Clough
: 2013-01-07, 18:04:22 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/7/2013 4:46 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb Quantum fields are nonphysical, since they do not exist in spacetime. ?? Where did you learn quantum field theory (I want to be sure not to hire any

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2013-01-08 Thread Roger Clough
Time: 2013-01-08, 08:36:24 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 07 Jan 2013, at 17:26, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Yes, the theories are nonphysical, and in addition, quantum theories quantum theory applies to quantum fields, which are nonphysical

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2013-01-08 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. How is opinion not connected to data? Have you found a way of neatly separating the information and data from opinion and

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2013-01-07 Thread Alberto G. Corona
the following content - From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-05, 07:15:28 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Hi Everythingsters, When things get a little fringe, I want the best bang for my buck (time reading/listening in this case). Here

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 07:05:29 Subject: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. it is perfectly possible to accept natural selection with all the implication in genetics

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
Time: 2013-01-06, 16:34:51 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/6/2013 3:52 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Stephen P. King I think what was meant was the inverse, namely that no consistent materialist can believe in quantum mechanics. Ah. OK. I would like to see

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-06, 15:31:01 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/6/2013 3:14 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 1/6/2013 11

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
-06, 16:23:37 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/6/2013 12:59 PM, Roger Clough wrote: quantum physics, which is nonphysical A new record. You've contradicted yourself in only five words. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2013-01-07 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion. We're different. I am a retired laboratory scientist and a pragmatist to boot. So to me, data trumnps everything. So I will believe

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
Time: 2013-01-07, 08:33:45 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy ? You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion. ? We're different. I am a retired

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2013-01-07 Thread Roger Clough
content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 11:17:56 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 06 Jan 2013, at 21:59, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb Not all physicists are materialists, or if they are, they are inconsistent

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2013-01-06 Thread Roger Clough
content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-05, 15:37:09 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/5/2013 6:26 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Empirical data, to my way of thinking, trumps scientific dogma (such as materialism) any

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2013-01-06 Thread Roger Clough
content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-06, 14:17:42 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/6/2013 5:30 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb Materialists can't consistently accept inextended structures and functions such as quantum

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2013-01-06 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
credible ? I personally think so. Hi Everythingsters, When things get a little fringe, I want the best bang for my buck (time reading/listening in this case). Here Sheldrake only delivers when held in check by McKenna and Abraham, even if not stunning. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Roger

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2013-01-05 Thread Roger Clough
: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Hi Everythingsters, When things get a little fringe, I want the best bang for my buck (time reading/listening in this case). Here Sheldrake only delivers when held in check by McKenna and Abraham, even if not stunning. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM

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2013-01-05 Thread Roger Clough
-list Time: 2013-01-04, 16:49:55 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/4/2013 8:38 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi meekerdb 1) Materialists don't have any dogmas. Just ask one of them. Theists have nothing but dogmas and you don't have to ask them, they tell you, e.g. one

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2013-01-05 Thread Roger Clough
Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-04, 08:31:56 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/4/2013 7:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: I wrote a review

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
: 2013-01-03, 11:57:45 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:44:17 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Telmo Menezes Sheldrake's been criticized in such a fashion for many of his results (there are a huge number of other types of observations

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
- From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 11:17:59 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Thanks Roger! I'm intrigued and will investigate further when time permits. Another more mundane explanation might be related to the effect of knowing

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
...@verizon.net] 1/4/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-04, 04:24:57 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/4/2013 3:24 AM, meekerdb

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
] 1/4/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 13:46:20 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2013-01-04, 07:26:21 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: I wrote a review paper for the Quantum Mind 2003 Tuscan, AZ Conference a decade ago that upon rereading could have well been about morphic fields

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2013-01-04 Thread Roger Clough
- Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-04, 03:14:17 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On 1/3/2013 11:47 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Russell Standish Most scientific publications are based on the 19th

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2013-01-04 Thread Richard Ruquist
the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 13:46:20 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, January 3, 2013 10:44:17 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi

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2013-01-03 Thread Roger Clough
] 1/4/2013 Forever is a long time, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-03, 18:32:37 Subject: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:46