Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide
My question is serious. I know that Roger was atheist liberal guy which was dependent on antidepressive drugs and in a certain moment he became conservative very active at least in this list. I want to know when why and how. You somekind something 2013/8/5 chris peck > Hi Alby > > Roger is pro-drugs in the thread below you dozy dipstick. ;) > > Its the liberal who is arguing for soft headed psycotherapy. its the > pharmaceutical company vs. The lilly livered liberal script. > > Get with the program you silly sausage! > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Alberto G. Corona" > Sent: 5 August 2013 11:59 PM > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Cc: "theoretical_physics" , > "theoretical_physics_board" , > "- mindbr...@yahoogroups.com" , "4dworldx" < > 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide > > Hi Roger, > > When did you stopped being a depressed, drug dependent, liberal and became > an hyperactive conservative? > > > 2013/8/5 Roger Clough > > > Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 > > > >Hi Chaotic Inflation > > > >There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, > >(how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. > >I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for > ALL antidepressants, > >as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, > >I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. > > > > > >The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of > suicide. > > > >Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. > >Source > > > >Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. > >RESULTS: > > > >The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription > and suicide rate was not significant. > >Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective > serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) > >and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone > hydrochloride, mirtazapine, > > bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) > > are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between > counties). A positive association between > >tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was > observed. Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, > >and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates > in rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant > > prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. > > > > > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > > > > > >ee my Leibniz site at > >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > > > > > >- Receiving the following content - > >From: Chaotic Inflation > >Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 > >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: > [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > > > > > > >>dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and > analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs > . also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to > antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to > shell out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists > themselves are now railing against the widespread overuse of > antidepressants.. this has nothing to do with politics. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Roger Clough > >>To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; > theoretical_physics_board > >>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM > >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] > Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Hi Chaotic Inflation > >> > >>I think those are typical liberal lies. > >> > >> > >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > >>See my Leibniz site at > >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >> > >>- Receiving the following content - > >>From: Chaotic Inflation > >>Receiver: theoret
Re: antidepressants and suicide
In such a case where tci's are not indicated, and ssri's the same, the ancient but improved upon use of ECT needs to be considered-but only if it actually works. -Original Message- From: Roger Clough To: theoretical_physics ; theoretical_physics_board ; - mindbr...@yahoogroups.com ; everything-list ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 8:47 am Subject: Fw: antidepressants and suicide Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 >Hi Chaotic Inflation > >There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, >(how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. >I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for ALL antidepressants, >as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, >I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. > > >The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of suicide. > >Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. >Source > >Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. >RESULTS: > >The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription and suicide rate was not significant. >Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) >and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone hydrochloride, mirtazapine, > bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) > are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between counties). A positive association between >tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was observed. Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, >and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates in rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant > prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > > >ee my Leibniz site at >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > > >- Receiving the following content - >From: Chaotic Inflation >Receiver: >4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: >[4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > >>dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs . also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to shell out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists themselves are now railing against the widespread overuse of antidepressants.. this has nothing to do with politics. >> >> >> >> From: Roger Clough >>To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; theoretical_physics_board >>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >>Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >> >> >> >>Hi Chaotic Inflation >> >>I think those are typical liberal lies. >> >> >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >>See my Leibniz site at >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> >>- Receiving the following content - >>From: Chaotic Inflation >>Receiver: >>theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com >> >>Time: 2013-08-04, 00:33:01 >>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >>Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >>>From what I've read some (prozac especially, but also others) cause violent tendencies in teenagers. the side effects are vastly different in children with developing brains. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Roger Clough >>>To: 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; theoretical_physics >>>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 11:00 AM >>>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide
Hi Alby Roger is pro-drugs in the thread below you dozy dipstick. ;) Its the liberal who is arguing for soft headed psycotherapy. its the pharmaceutical company vs. The lilly livered liberal script. Get with the program you silly sausage! --- Original Message --- From: "Alberto G. Corona" Sent: 5 August 2013 11:59 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: "theoretical_physics" , "theoretical_physics_board" , "- mindbr...@yahoogroups.com" , "4dworldx" <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide Hi Roger, When did you stopped being a depressed, drug dependent, liberal and became an hyperactive conservative? 2013/8/5 Roger Clough > > Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 > > > >Hi Chaotic Inflation > > > >There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, > >(how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. > >I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for > ALL antidepressants, > >as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, > >I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. > > > > > >The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of > suicide. > > > >Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. > >Source > > > >Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. > >RESULTS: > > > >The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription > and suicide rate was not significant. > >Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective > serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) > >and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone > hydrochloride, mirtazapine, > > bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) > > are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between > counties). A positive association between > >tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was > observed. Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, > >and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates > in rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant > > prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. > > > > > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > > > > > >ee my Leibniz site at > >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > > > > > >- Receiving the following content - > >From: Chaotic Inflation > >Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 > >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: > [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > > > > > > >>dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and > analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs > . also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to > antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to > shell out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists > themselves are now railing against the widespread overuse of > antidepressants.. this has nothing to do with politics. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Roger Clough > >>To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; > theoretical_physics_board > >>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM > >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] > Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Hi Chaotic Inflation > >> > >>I think those are typical liberal lies. > >> > >> > >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > >>See my Leibniz site at > >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >> > >>- Receiving the following content - > >>From: Chaotic Inflation > >>Receiver: theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >>Time: 2013-08-04, 00:33:01 > >>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] > Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >> > >>>From what I've read some (prozac especially,
Re: Fw: antidepressants and suicide
Hi Roger, When did you stopped being a depressed, drug dependent, liberal and became an hyperactive conservative? 2013/8/5 Roger Clough > > Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 > > > >Hi Chaotic Inflation > > > >There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, > >(how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. > >I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for > ALL antidepressants, > >as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, > >I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. > > > > > >The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of > suicide. > > > >Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. > >Source > > > >Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. > >RESULTS: > > > >The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription > and suicide rate was not significant. > >Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective > serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) > >and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone > hydrochloride, mirtazapine, > > bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) > > are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between > counties). A positive association between > >tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was > observed. Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, > >and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates > in rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant > > prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. > > > > > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > > > > > >ee my Leibniz site at > >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > > > > > >- Receiving the following content - > >From: Chaotic Inflation > >Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 > >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: > [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > > > > > > >>dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and > analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs > . also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to > antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to > shell out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists > themselves are now railing against the widespread overuse of > antidepressants.. this has nothing to do with politics. > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Roger Clough > >>To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; > theoretical_physics_board > >>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM > >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] > Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Hi Chaotic Inflation > >> > >>I think those are typical liberal lies. > >> > >> > >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > >>See my Leibniz site at > >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >> > >>- Receiving the following content - > >>From: Chaotic Inflation > >>Receiver: theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com, > theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >>Time: 2013-08-04, 00:33:01 > >>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] > Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >> > >>>From what I've read some (prozac especially, but also others) cause > violent tendencies in teenagers. the side effects are vastly different > in children with developing brains. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Roger Clough > >>>To: 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; theoretical_physics > >>>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 11:00 AM > >>>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: > Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi Chaotic Inflation > >>> > >>>Antidepressants are probably overprescribed, but they only help you if > you are depressed, > >>>otherwise I am told that they have no effect (they surely don't make > you high), so why would anybody > >>>keep paying even the copay ? My suspicion is that they are useful and > so needed. > >>> > >>>Without God, it's a depressing world. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > >>>See my Leibniz site at > >>>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >>> > >>> > >>>- Receiving the following content - > >>>From: Chaotic Inflation > >>>Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >>>Time: 2013-08-03, 03:49:37 > >>>Subject: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw:
Fw: antidepressants and suicide
Sorry I forgot to put in the linK ; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15699293 >Hi Chaotic Inflation > >There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, >(how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. >I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for ALL >antidepressants, >as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, >I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. > > >The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of suicide. > >Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. >Source > >Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. >RESULTS: > >The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription and >suicide rate was not significant. >Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective >serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) >and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone >hydrochloride, mirtazapine, > bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) > are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between counties). A > positive association between >tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was observed. >Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, >and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates in >rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant > prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. > > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] > > >ee my Leibniz site at >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > > >- Receiving the following content - >From: Chaotic Inflation >Receiver: >4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: >[4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > >>dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and >>analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs >>. also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to >>antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to shell >>out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists >>themselves are now railing against the widespread overuse of >>antidepressants.. this has nothing to do with politics. >> >> >> >> From: Roger Clough >>To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; >>theoretical_physics_board >>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM >>Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >>Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >> >> >> >>Hi Chaotic Inflation >> >>I think those are typical liberal lies. >> >> >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >>See my Leibniz site at >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> >>- Receiving the following content - >>From: Chaotic Inflation >>Receiver: >>theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com >> >>Time: 2013-08-04, 00:33:01 >>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >>Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >>>From what I've read some (prozac especially, but also others) cause violent >>>tendencies in teenagers. the side effects are vastly different in >>>children with developing brains. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Roger Clough >>>To: 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; theoretical_physics >>>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 11:00 AM >>>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: >>>Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Hi Chaotic Inflation >>> >>>Antidepressants are probably overprescribed, but they only help you if you >>>are depressed, >>>otherwise I am told that they have no effect (they surely don't make you >>>high), so why would anybody >>>keep paying even the copay ? My suspicion is that they are useful and so >>>needed. >>> >>>Without God, it's a depressing world. >>> >>> >>> >>>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >>>See my Leibniz site at >>>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >>> >>> >>>- Receiving the following content - >>>From: Chaotic Inflation >>>Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com >>>Time: 2013-08-03, 03:49:37 >>>Subject: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: >>>Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >>> >>> >>> >>> Obviously this isn't an all size all fits scenario, you have a s
antidepressants and suicide
Hi Chaotic Inflation There is indeed a positive association between TCAs and suicide, (how strong it doesn't say) but otherwise there is a negative association. I wouldn't be surprised however, if there was a positive association for ALL antidepressants, as they don't work perfectly anyway. From my experience, I would say that they only reduce depression at best about 50%. The relationship between antidepressant medication use and rate of suicide. Gibbons RD, Hur K, Bhaumik DK, Mann JJ. Source Center for Health Statistics, University of Illinois at Chicago, USA. RESULTS: The overall relationship between antidepressant medication prescription and suicide rate was not significant. Within individual classes of antidepressants, prescriptions for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and other new-generation non-SSRI antidepressants (eg, nefazodone hydrochloride, mirtazapine, bupropion hydrochloride, and venlafaxine hydrochloride) are associated with lower suicide rates (both within and between counties). A positive association between tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) prescription and suicide rate was observed. Results are adjusted for age, sex, race, income, and county-to-county variability in suicide rates. Higher suicide rates in rural areas are associated with fewer antidepressant prescriptions, lower income, and relatively more prescriptions for TCAs. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] ee my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough - Receiving the following content - From: Chaotic Inflation Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com Time: 2013-08-05, 04:38:01 Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >dude you need to get off this obsession with liberals that you have and >analyze the facts look up Prozac defense and homicide rate with SSRIs >. also look up the Columbine incident and how that's linked to >antidepressants. and if this wasn't true, they wouldn't have had to shell >out millions of dollars in class action lawsuits, and psychiatrists themselves >are now railing against the widespread overuse of antidepressants.. this >has nothing to do with politics. > > > > From: Roger Clough >To: theoretical_physics ; 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; >theoretical_physics_board >Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:21 AM >Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > > > > >Hi Chaotic Inflation > >I think those are typical liberal lies. > > >Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >See my Leibniz site at >http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough > >- Receiving the following content - >From: Chaotic Inflation >Receiver: >theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com,4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_physics_bo...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com > >Time: 2013-08-04, 00:33:01 >Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] >Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this > >>From what I've read some (prozac especially, but also others) cause violent >>tendencies in teenagers. the side effects are vastly different in >>children with developing brains. >> >> >> >> From: Roger Clough >>To: 4dworldx <4dwor...@yahoogroups.com>; theoretical_physics >>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 11:00 AM >>Subject: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: >>Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >> >> >> >>Hi Chaotic Inflation >> >>Antidepressants are probably overprescribed, but they only help you if you >>are depressed, >>otherwise I am told that they have no effect (they surely don't make you >>high), so why would anybody >>keep paying even the copay ? My suspicion is that they are useful and so >>needed. >> >>Without God, it's a depressing world. >> >> >> >>Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] >>See my Leibniz site at >>http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough >> >> >>- Receiving the following content - >>From: Chaotic Inflation >>Receiver: 4dwor...@yahoogroups.com,theoretical_phys...@yahoogroups.com >>Time: 2013-08-03, 03:49:37 >>Subject: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx] Fw: >>Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this >> >> >> >> >>>Obviously this isn't an all size all fits scenario, you have a serious >>>condition, but they are way overprescribed, especially to children and those >>>with only mild or moderate condition, which studies have shown respond much >>>better to counseling and lifestyle changes and which alternatives dont have >>>the serious side effects. Your condition clearly isn't mild or moderate and
