Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Jun 2013, at 01:33, chris peck wrote: This is a theorem, once we suppose the mind is Turing emulable. not actually a theorem if we don't, tho' ? i don't understand. More to the point, it might well be that materialism IS a joke. But Roger's attempt to show this is no closer

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-05 Thread spudboy100
Materialism is no joke. Like Dr. Johnson said, I refute it this! What mathematician (Texas) Martin Gardner, once, wrote, is that he like string theory, because behind matter is energy, and behind energy, are strings, and behind strings, and behind numbers, are nothing. This, influenced

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Jun 2013, at 15:27, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Materialism is no joke. Like Dr. Johnson said, I refute it this! What mathematician (Texas) Martin Gardner, once, wrote, is that he like string theory, because behind matter is energy, and behind energy, are strings, and behind strings

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-05 Thread spudboy100
To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 9:38 am Subject: Re: Materialism is a joke As long as the theological question are not taken seriously, the field will remain in the hand of the non serious people. Atheism is a de facto an ally to fundamentalism when

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
. Like I said in a comment on youtube: Only bad faith fear science. Only bad science fear faith. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 9:38 am Subject: Re: Materialism is a joke As long

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Jun 2013, at 01:20, Roger Clough wrote: Materialism is a joke Materialism is a view of the universe that claims that the only existence in the universe is physical or objective existence--that only objects moving in spacetime exist. Which is disproven by the fact that if you

Re: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 Jun 2013, at 01:20, Roger Clough wrote: Materialism is a joke Materialism is a view of the universe that claims that the only existence in the universe is physical or objective existence--that only objects moving

RE: Materialism is a joke

2013-06-04 Thread chris peck
This is a theorem, once we suppose the mind is Turing emulable. not actually a theorem if we don't, tho' ? More to the point, it might well be that materialism IS a joke. But Roger's attempt to show this is no closer to the mark than Dr. Johnson kicking his stone was to disproving idealism