Re: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-02, 00:16:31 Subject: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable On 10/1/2012 1:28 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > ROGER: Objects can be physical and also infinitely divisible, > but L considered this infinite divisibil

Re: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-02, 05:34:11 Subject: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable Hi Roger, On 01 Oct 2012, at 19:28, Roger Clough wrote:

Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Oct 2012, at 07:14, William R. Buckley wrote: $$$ 1) Well it's an indeterminantcy, but which path is chosen is done by the geometry of the location or test probe, not the same I would think as logical choice (?) So I would say "no." ... Note that intelligence requires the abi

Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Roger, On 01 Oct 2012, at 19:28, Roger Clough wrote: BRUNO: OK. But the ability to selct does not require intelligence, just interaction and some memory. $$ ROGER: No, that's where you keep missing the absolutely critical issue of self. Choice is exclusive to the autonomous self,

RE: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-01 Thread William R. Buckley
> > $$$ 1) Well it's an indeterminantcy, but which path is chosen is > done by the geometry of the location > or test probe, not the same I would think as logical choice (?) > So I would say "no." > ... > Note that intelligence requires the ability to select. > > > BRUNO: OK. But th

Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-01 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/1/2012 1:28 PM, Roger Clough wrote: ROGER: Objects can be physical and also infinitely divisible, but L considered this infinite divisibility to disqualify an object to be real because there's no end to the process, one wouldn't end up with something to refer to. Hi Roger, This