RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes:> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:57:15 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds> > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote:> > Brent Meeker writes:> > > > > > > OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the>

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : > OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the > "illusion" of their continuity may be provided by the continuity of > their underpinning. But I don't see how a strictly stepwise discrete > process as contemplated in the

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-janv.-07, à 00:11, Jason Resch a écrit : > Thanks, that was an interesting read.  I find it surprising how many > people find MWI so disturbing, perhaps it is the pessimists always > assuming the worst is happening.  Instead of focusing on the good or > bad, I look at the variety it pro

Re: _R=E9p_:_The_Meaning_of_Life

2007-01-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 29-janv.-07, à 06:07, Tom Caylor a écrit : >> >>> My above questions are perhaps a bit rhetorical in >>> this sense. �I think the answer is that we long to find meaning >>> solely >>> through science so that we can control everything, and so we *try* to >>> erect science as the god over all m

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > Brent Meeker writes: > > > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:57:15 -0800 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds > > > > > > Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > Brent Meeker writes: > > > > > > > > > OK

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Brent Meeker
Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > > >> OK, but that means "observer moments" are not fundamental and the >> "illusion" of their continuity may be provided by the continuity of >> their underpinning. But I don't see how a strictly stepwise discrete

Re: Searles' Fundamental Error (was: rep: rep: the meaning of life)

2007-01-29 Thread 1Z
On 24 Jan, 11:42, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 23-janv.-07, à 15:59, 1Z a écrit : > > > > > Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> Also, nobody has proved the existence of a primitive physical > >> universe. > > > Or of a PlatoniaCall it Platonia, God, Universe, or Glass-of-Beer, we don'

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread John M
Hal, a decade ago I 'read' your text easier than now: you firmed up your vocabulary - gradually out of my understanding. Sorry. * You seem to accept 'observer moments' and their interaction - even postulate one variable needed. How long is an OM? a million years (cosmology) or a msec? Even if it

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno Marchal writes: > Le 28-janv.-07, à 20:21, Brent Meeker a écrit :>> > OK, but that means > "observer moments" are not fundamental and the > > "illusion" of their > continuity may be provided by the continuity of > > their underpinning. But I > don't see how a strictly stepwise discrete

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: > > > I don't disagree with that. But that means that a conscious, 1st > > > > > > person, pair of experiences, i.e. pair of numbers can have no order > > > > > > other than the inherent order of the numbers. And if an experience > > > > > > corresponds to just a number,

Re: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > Brent Meeker writes: > > > > > I don't disagree with that. But that means that a conscious, 1st > > > > person, pair of experiences, i.e. pair of numbers can have no order > > > > other than the inherent order of the numbers. And if an experience > > > > correspo

RE: ASSA and Many-Worlds

2007-01-29 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Brent Meeker writes: > Stathis Papaioannou wrote:> > Brent Meeker writes:> > > > > > > I don't > disagree with that. But that means that a conscious, 1st> > > > > person, > pair of experiences, i.e. pair of numbers can have no order> > > > > other > than the inherent order of the numbers. And