Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
Thomas, >> (Apropos Günther Greindl's remark: "space as the self moving in >> relation to everything else, time as everything outside the self moving in >> relation to oneself." > it's funny that already in 1895, in his novel The Time Machine, H.G. > Wells wrote, "There is no difference between

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, > I decided so many times not to reflect to the esoteric sci-fi > assumptions (thought experiments?) on this list - about situations > beyond common sense, their use as templates for consequences. It is as you wish, but it is my way to question the humans, through UDA. Then the nu

Re: Boltzmann Brains, consciousness and the arrow of time

2009-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi Bruno, > and Cantor get a contradiction from that. You assume the diagram is > indeed a piece of an existing bijection in Platonia, or known by God. No, you misunderstand me there - I just meant that we need to take the step to infinity - see below. > that you get by flipping the 0 and 1

Exact Theology was:Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
Hello, > My domain is theology. scientific and thus agnostic theology. I > specialized my self in Machine's theology. Or Human's theology once > assuming comp. The UDA shows (or should show) that physics is a branch > of theology, so that the AUDA makes Machine's theology experimentally > re

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Brent wrote: "...But the EPR experiments show that this can only hold if the influence of "the rest of the world" is non-local (i.e. faster than light) and hence inconsistent with relativity..." EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a point. How can one use such artifact as

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
John, Brent, John said: > EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a point. >How can one use such artifact as 'evidence' that "shows..."? Aspect Et Al tested it ages ago, see for instance here: http://www-ece.rice.edu/~kono/ELEC565/Aspect_Nature.pdf Brent said: > But the

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Kim Jones
On 10/01/2009, at 5:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I admire too. Kim is courageous. > Well, for the tenacity we will see :) > > Gee thanks Doctor! I'll try not disappoint you. At the moment I am devoting an egregious amount of time to searching for employment as my ability to sit and cogit

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-09 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/1/9 Brent Meeker : >> But in a block universe, where each frame contains all of the >> information for a particular time, the order is implicit. > > What makes it implicit?... increasing entropy? ...conformance to dynamical > laws? > These are things outside the frames. If you assume the

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Brent Meeker
John Mikes wrote: > Brent wrote: > > "...But the EPR experiments show that this can only hold if the > influence of "the rest of the world" is non-local > (i.e. faster than light) and hence inconsistent with relativity..." > > EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a poi

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-09 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > 2009/1/9 Brent Meeker : > >>> But in a block universe, where each frame contains all of the >>> information for a particular time, the order is implicit. >> What makes it implicit?... increasing entropy? ...conformance to dynamical >> laws? >> These are things outs

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-09 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2009/1/10 Brent Meeker : >> Consider a simulation of an observer watching a falling stone, running >> on a digital computer. Does the observer have any way of knowing >> whether the simulation is being run serially, in parallel, on how many >> and what kinds of physical machines, at what speed, o

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-09 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > 2009/1/10 Brent Meeker : > >>> Consider a simulation of an observer watching a falling stone, running >>> on a digital computer. Does the observer have any way of knowing >>> whether the simulation is being run serially, in parallel, on how many >>> and what kinds of