Does somebody know what Vacuum is ?

2012-05-16 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Does somebody know what Vacuum is ? 1. Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ by Steven Weinberg. Page 138. ‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute ze

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 2:39 am, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and > >> thus to contain universal internal observers,  leads already to > >> indeterminist first person realities (even with

Re: Poking the bear.

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
Cool. I commented there and on my blog: http://s33light.org/post/23162796054 Craig On May 15, 11:53 pm, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: > Hi all, > You might be interested in a little article I wrote, published here: > > http://theconversation.edu.au/learning-experience-lets-take-conscious... > > I

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 May 2012, at 19:44, Craig Weinberg wrote: On May 15, 1:03 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and thus to contain universal internal observers, leads already to indeterminist first person realities (even without comp, although it

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 10:41 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 15 May 2012, at 19:44, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On May 15, 1:03 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and > thus to contain universal internal observers,  leads alread

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 15, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote: >> That's exactly what a sore looser would say after he'd been thoroughly >> beaten by a opponent. >> > > > If I were beaten by a human opponent, why would I accuse them of not > making decisions? What does winning or losing a game against a non-person

Re: Poking the bear.

2012-05-16 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 16.05.2012 05:53 Colin Geoffrey Hales said the following: Hi all, You might be interested in a little article I wrote, published here: http://theconversation.edu.au/learning-experience-lets-take-consciousness-in-from-the-cold-6739 I am embarked on the long process of getting science to self

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 12:41 pm, John Clark wrote: > On Tue, May 15, 2012  Craig Weinberg wrote: > > >> That's exactly what a sore looser would say after he'd been thoroughly > >> beaten by a opponent. > > > > If I were beaten by a human opponent, why would I accuse them of not > > making decisions? What doe

Re: Dualism via Quantum Mechanics

2012-05-16 Thread stephenk
On May 12, 8:00 pm, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >  On 5/12/2012 10:19 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir wrote: > > >> >A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans. > >> >Evgenii >

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote > > I don't say that [the free will noise] means you're not deterministic, > I would be glad to hear you say that except that according to illogical Weinbergian logic just because something is not not deterministic does not mean its determini