> On 7 Feb 2018, at 15:40, Lawrence Crowell
> wrote:
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> On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 6:52:27 AM UTC-6, telmo_menezes wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:43 PM, Lawrence Crowell
> > wrote:
> > It is interesting in some ways. However, it involves speculations on things
> > we have no know
Hard emergence is either something really miraculous and thus not really in
the domain of physics, or it is something we might call a miracle because
we really do not understand it.
LC
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:28:49 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 7 Feb 2018, at 15:40, Lawrence
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 6:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> You might try to give at least one example of hard emergence
One molecule of water can't be wet but 6.02*10^ 23 molecules can be. And
H2O at 31 degrees F has none of the properties of a liquid but at 33
degrees F those same molecules
It occurred to me a case of hard emergence. The outcome of a quantum
measurement is such. I have iterated how I think this is connected to
self-reference, so I will not repeat that here. However, the outcome is
completely random and has no causal basis. It emerges for no particular
reason, such
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:58:04 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
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> It occurred to me a case of hard emergence. The outcome of a quantum
> measurement is such. I have iterated how I think this is connected to
> self-reference, so I will not repeat that here.
>
It would be useful IMO,
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