Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
If IGUS or ETI exist elsewhere, I would argue that probably there are scaling limits to the powers such beings are able to control. The universe has matter in it, but it has an average density of 10^{-29}g/cm^3, and the overwhelming percentage of matter in dense configurations is in stars that

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:58:41 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > If IGUS or ETI exist elsewhere, I would argue that probably there are > scaling limits to the powers such beings are able to control. The universe > has matter in it, but it has an average density of 10^{-29}g/cm^3, a

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: ​> ​ > *If IGUS or ETI exist elsewhere, I would argue that probably there are > scaling limits to the powers such beings are able to control. The universe > has matter in it, but it has an average density

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
No interpretation is really physics. These are more in a way metaphysics. They are not consistent with each other and yet they are commensurate with quantum mechanics. This means they are auxiliary. They generally can be lumped into two categories, those that are ψ-epistemic and those that are

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfield...@gmail.com > wrote: > > ​> ​ >> *If IGUS or ETI exist elsewhere, I would argue that probably there are >> scaling limits to the powers such beings are able t

Re: Interpretive cards (MWI, Bohm, Copenhagen: collect ’em all)

2018-02-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 11 Feb 2018, at 23:29, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > Scott Aaronson has an interesting blog entry on quantum interpretations: > > https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3628 > > He seems somewhat conflicted over which interpretation to believe. > "Anyway, as I said, MWI is the best interpre

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 11:36:36 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ​> ​ >>> *If IGUS or ETI exist elsewhere, I would

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *​> ​We are faced with a number of prospects. The first is there is some > limit to complexity that any intelligent being can manage.* > The smarter something is the more complexity it can handle ​ , ​ so

Re: Why Alien Life Would be our Doom - The Great Filter

2018-02-12 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:08:46 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfield...@gmail.com > wrote: > > *​> ​We are faced with a number of prospects. The first is there is some >> limit to complexity that any intelligent being can manage.