Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

> On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green > > > wrote: > > > > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes > > are discrete

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 30 Dec 2018, at 19:02, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 08:33, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> There is no "even" or "odd" prior to the existence of matter. > > With some act of faith in some no

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

> On 31 Dec 2018, at 02:37, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 09:02:26AM -0800, Brent Meeker wrote: >> >> >> On 12/29/2018 1:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> I use number because people are more familiar with them. Most people can >>> easily conceived that “17 is odd” is true

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:09 PM Brent Meeker wrote: * > And for two spacelike events (as I specified) h^2 < 0 so you have made > the interval along a world line, the proper time, imaginary. * > The spacetime distance d is *not* the proper time, the spacetime distance is an invariant, it's the sa

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:44:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Dec 2018, at 19:02, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 08:33, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> There is no "even" or "od

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:30:22 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:44:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 19:02, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 7:35:26 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 1:07:37 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:30:22 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:44:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 30 Dec 2018, at 19:02, Philip Thrift wrote:

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On 1/2/2019 8:28 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:09 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: /> And for two spacelike events (as I specified) h^2 < 0  so you have made the interval along a world line, the proper time, imaginary. / The spacetime distanc

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On 1/2/2019 10:30 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: I have no reason to believe that all of mathematics (numbers, ..., (mathematical) Turing machines, ...) is nothing more than language - which is something generated by material beings. But do you have some reason to believe that it is more than a l

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On 1/2/2019 12:09 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: When one thinks of "1+1=2", "|+|=||", etc. one thinks of, say, "There's a stick and another stick side by side. What do you call that?" Unary arithmetic. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everythi

Re: What is more primary than numbers?

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:50 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> That's like saying if two people drove different cars from L.A. to New > York and their odometers registered different distances then one of the > odometers must have measured miles differently than the other...ignoring > the fact that they to

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green wrote: >> > >> > David Deutsch sugge

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 1:26:20 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:57:59 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/2/2019 10:30 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > I have no reason to believe that all of mathematics (numbers, ..., > > (mathematical) Turing machines, ...) is nothing more than language - > > which is something generated by

Re: [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 6:12:11 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/2/2019 12:09 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > When one thinks of "1+1=2", "|+|=||", etc. one thinks of, say, > > "There's a stick and another stick side by side. What do you call that?" > > Unary arithmetic. > > Brent >