Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
On 30 Apr 2013, at 19:35, wrote: Religion is a parasite on spirituality. And a dangerous one! It depends what you mean by religion. If you mean "institutionalized theology", you are right. That kind of religion is what you get when you throw out theology from academy, like the Romans did about 1500 years ago. But the term religion is a fuzzy word, and sometimes it means ... spirituality. Now spirituality is also a fuzzy word, and some people can use it with authoritative-arguments quite comparable to the "institutionalized theology", sometimes. Bruno LN On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:15:48 -0400, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , I think that's being rather impolite. It's true that He's not big on formality and in fact His friends just call Him "Bob", but He's Mr. God to you. >who had a thought And God's thought was this "Why do I exist? What is my purpose in life? Who made me? And if I've always existed why haven't I always not existed?" > which is the universe. And then God wondered what method He had used to make the universe because He seems to have forgotten. And so it came to be that God had lots and lots of questions but He had no answers. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
Religion is a parasite on spirituality. And a dangerous one! LN On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:15:48 -0400, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , I think that's being rather impolite. It's true that He's not big on formality and in fact His friends just call Him "Bob", but He's Mr. God to you. >who had a thought And God's thought was this "Why do I exist? What is my purpose in life? Who made me? And if I've always existed why haven't I always not existed?" > which is the universe. And then God wondered what method He had used to make the universe because He seems to have forgotten. And so it came to be that God had lots and lots of questions but He had no answers. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en [2]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out [3]. Links: -- [1] mailto:rclo...@verizon.net [2] http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en [3] https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
Are you saying you believe in Bob, John? Your sumary reminds me more of a quote by George Orwell: “He was an embittered atheist, the sort of atheist who does not so much disbelieve in God as personally dislike Him.” You don't seem embittered to me, and you do ask good questions. If you go with the Clough & Liebniz's theology, you actually have to somehow, contact this person, named Bob, before you can ask your very, valid, questions. I am not sure how we'd make contact with Bob, but I would ask a physicist, or ten, what they would recommend? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2013 1:15 pm Subject: Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , I think that's being rather impolite. It's true that He's not big on formality and in fact His friends just call Him "Bob", but He's Mr. God to you. >who had a thought And God's thought was this "Why do I exist? What is my purpose in life? Who made me? And if I've always existed why haven't I always not existed?" > which is the universe. And then God wondered what method He had used to make the universe because He seems to have forgotten. And so it came to be that God had lots and lots of questions but He had no answers. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > > >In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , > I think that's being rather impolite. It's true that He's not big on formality and in fact His friends just call Him "Bob", but He's Mr. God to you. >who had a thought > And God's thought was this "Why do I exist? What is my purpose in life? Who made me? And if I've always existed why haven't I always not existed?" > which is the universe. > And then God wondered what method He had used to make the universe because He seems to have forgotten. And so it came to be that God had lots and lots of questions but He had no answers. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
Most advanced ETs are already dead and even less distinguishable from a god. A book I am reading on Kindle for only $5 explains this in detail- how a recently dead atheist could become a god, he not finding a god in the afterlife. The Afterlife of a Restless Soul: But Is God Really a Woman? Brinster, John F. Brinster, John F. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Yes, Dr. Clough, it certainly is possible. Now, my though on this is to > steal skeptic, Michael Shermer, and his "Shermer's Last Law (a rip-off of > AC Clarke) which is: "Any sufficiently, advanced ET is indistinguishable > from God." So hypothetically our descendents might be able to perform a > physical search for this being, and being a conversation with Him. This is > a non-religious view and likely, incorrect, but I thought I would raise > this proposal as an intellectual exercise. How might we accomplish this? It > seems worthwhile, but I couldn't guarantee the premise is correct. > > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Clough > To: everything-list ; - > mindbr...@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:28 am > Subject: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had > a thought, which is the universe. > > > In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a > thought, which is the universe. > > > Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/29/2013 > http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
Yes, Dr. Clough, it certainly is possible. Now, my though on this is to steal skeptic, Michael Shermer, and his "Shermer's Last Law (a rip-off of AC Clarke) which is: "Any sufficiently, advanced ET is indistinguishable from God." So hypothetically our descendents might be able to perform a physical search for this being, and being a conversation with Him. This is a non-religious view and likely, incorrect, but I thought I would raise this proposal as an intellectual exercise. How might we accomplish this? It seems worthwhile, but I couldn't guarantee the premise is correct. -Original Message- From: Roger Clough To: everything-list ; - mindbr...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:28 am Subject: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe. In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe. Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/29/2013 http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
On Monday, April 29, 2013 10:22:08 AM UTC-4, Roger Clough wrote: > > > In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a > thought, which is the universe. > Nothing can be a mind until it has a thought, and nothing can begin unless the sense of beginnings and endings is included in some thought, experience, or awareness. Experience comes before beginnings, before thoughts, and before God. God is a type of experience, but experience is much more than a God. Craig > > > > Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 4/29/2013 > http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
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In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
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In the beginning was the cosmic mind (which I call God) , who had a thought, which is the universe.
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