Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Roger, On 01 Oct 2012, at 19:28, Roger Clough wrote: BRUNO: OK. But the ability to selct does not require intelligence, just interaction and some memory. $$ ROGER: No, that's where you keep missing the absolutely critical issue of self. Choice is exclusive to the autonomous

Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Oct 2012, at 07:14, William R. Buckley wrote: $$$ 1) Well it's an indeterminantcy, but which path is chosen is done by the geometry of the location or test probe, not the same I would think as logical choice (?) So I would say no. ... Note that intelligence requires the

Re: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Bruno Marchal My understanding of personal or subjective or 1p filtering has little to do with where the person is (Washington or Moscow). it has to do (if I might say it this way) with where the person has been. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/2/2012 Forever is a long time,

Re: Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stephen P. King I appreciate criticisms of Leibniz. Not sure what computational complexity or universality means although I suppose that it has something to do with the whole is greater than its parts. That being so, if we take the parts to be monads, each part knows everything (all of

Re: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-01 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/1/2012 1:28 PM, Roger Clough wrote: ROGER: Objects can be physical and also infinitely divisible, but L considered this infinite divisibility to disqualify an object to be real because there's no end to the process, one wouldn't end up with something to refer to. Hi Roger, This

RE: The Good, the Bad and the weirdly computable

2012-10-01 Thread William R. Buckley
$$$ 1) Well it's an indeterminantcy, but which path is chosen is done by the geometry of the location or test probe, not the same I would think as logical choice (?) So I would say no. ... Note that intelligence requires the ability to select. BRUNO: OK. But the ability