Re: Re: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
- From: Roger Clough Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-02, 05:43:40 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment Hi Stathis Papaioannou The self is not the brain, which is objective. The self is the subjective or personal view of what the brain does. Rog

Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Oct 2012, at 19:37, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, which is needed for everything the brain does. I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend on anything--- espec

Re: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-02 Thread Roger Clough
ng content - From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-01, 19:20:12 Subject: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, > which is neede

Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, > which is needed for everything the brain does. > > I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in > a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend > on anything--- especial

Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Roger Clough
Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-01, 11:32:07 Subject: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment On 01 Oct 2012, at 16:32, Roger Clough wrote: > > > Those who have faith in the possibi

Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > > > Those who have faith in the possibility of brain > transplants might consider this: > > You cannot separate the self (your ID) from the body. > > Your skin, the envelope of your body and self, > is part of you, meaning your self. Why ? >

Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment

2012-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Oct 2012, at 16:32, Roger Clough wrote: Those who have faith in the possibility of brain transplants might consider this: You cannot separate the self (your ID) from the body. Your skin, the envelope of your body and self, is part of you, meaning your self. Why ? If somebody pricks y