Statis, A more concise response would be that the self is the brain's activity from a certain point of view (yours).
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/2/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Roger Clough Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-02, 05:43:40 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment Hi Stathis Papaioannou The self is not the brain, which is objective. The self is the subjective or personal view of what the brain does. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/2/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-01, 19:20:12 Subject: Re: Re: Attacking the brain transplant experiment On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self, > which is needed for everything the brain does. > > I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in > a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend > on anything--- especially not hardware or software. > > Let me also say it this alternate way. The output > of an algorithm (let's say a choice, given an input) > is always dependent on what the algorithm did. > And algorithms are software. In that case a brain can't be autonomous either, since it depends on hardware (the matter the brain) and software (encoded in the brain through experience). -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
