On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> A brain in a vat would probably have an autonomous self,
> which is needed for everything the brain does.
> I don't see how an autonomous self can be present in
> a computer, because autonomous means it can't depend
> on anything--- especially not hardware or software.
> Let me also say it this alternate way. The output
> of an algorithm (let's say a choice, given an input)
> is always dependent on what the algorithm did.
> And algorithms are software.

In that case a brain can't be autonomous either, since it depends on
hardware (the matter the brain) and software (encoded in the brain
through experience).

Stathis Papaioannou

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