Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-17 Thread Alberto G. Corona
It´s not only category theory, but category theory to solve te problem of spurious inferences, of the type that plague tradicional neural networks and semantic nets when they learn automatically things: for example: a car may be red, therefore red flowers may consume fuel. Alberto. 2012/7/14

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-17 Thread Alberto G. Corona
It is too academic trough. But the idea can be expressed in simpler ways. This is an interview ith the author: ( In english at the middle of the article). http://ilevolucionista.blogspot.com.es/2011/06/el-don-de-la-sistematicidad-entrevista.html I think that this may be the better match between

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-14 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/14/2012 4:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 14 Jul 2012, at 07:48, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Stephen, I took a look at the book of Jon Barwise and it seems very interesting. This use of category theory with information seems promising. I´m interested in both: how the living beings

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-13 Thread meekerdb
On 7/12/2012 9:55 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 7/12/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 7/12/2012 4:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We each one are free riders because we are selfish collaborators. A twist on selfish collaboration is the self deception: our memory is unconsciously distorted to

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-13 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/13/2012 12:45 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 7/12/2012 9:55 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 7/12/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 7/12/2012 4:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We each one are free riders because we are selfish collaborators. A twist on selfish collaboration is the self deception:

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/11/2012 6:47 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Stephen: Well it愀 not cooperation between computer programs, but cooperation of entities in the abstract level. This can be described mathematically or simulated in a computer program. In both cases, it starts with a game with its rules goals

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/7/12 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net On 7/11/2012 6:47 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Stephen: Well it´s not cooperation between computer programs, but cooperation of entities in the abstract level. This can be described mathematically or simulated in a computer program. In both

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread meekerdb
On 7/12/2012 4:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We each one are free riders because we are selfish collaborators. A twist on selfish collaboration is the self deception: our memory is unconsciously distorted to support our case. we thinkl that we deserve more than the fair share etc. Free

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Right. free rider is a pure defector. In a more realistic game, the entities can act with mixed strategies, sometimes as free riders, others as collaborators. This is the meaning of selfish collaborators. With the addition that, sometimes, what benefits the individual benefits also the

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/12/2012 7:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2012/7/12 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net mailto:stephe...@charter.net On 7/11/2012 6:47 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Stephen: Well it愀 not cooperation between computer programs, but cooperation of entities in the

Re: Cooperation and Free Riders

2012-07-12 Thread Stephen P. King
On 7/12/2012 7:42 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 7/12/2012 4:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: We each one are free riders because we are selfish collaborators. A twist on selfish collaboration is the self deception: our memory is unconsciously distorted to support our case. we thinkl that we deserve