Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 Jul 2019, at 20:32, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 7/17/2019 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 16 Jul 2019, at 19:37, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/16/2019 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The consciousness of

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-17 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 7/17/2019 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jul 2019, at 19:37, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 7/16/2019 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The consciousness of the universal machine is timeless, and spaceless. It is somehow 100% unfocused, without any attention, and it

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-17 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
Self-reference is eternal. And then self-reference finds objects within itself, including time, time being an object like any other, like color red. And self-reference itself not being an object, it is not bound to the law of non-contradiction, so it can find multiple objects in itself at the

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 16 Jul 2019, at 19:37, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 7/16/2019 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> The consciousness of the universal machine is timeless, and spaceless. It is >> somehow 100% unfocused, without any attention, and it might plausibly be >> related

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-16 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 7/16/2019 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The consciousness of the universal machine is timeless, and spaceless. It is somehow 100% unfocused, without any attention, and it might plausibly be related to the highly dissociative state that some people seemed to describe in experience with

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 15 Jul 2019, at 22:10, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 1:53:49 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > What does "matter" even mean ? Saying "matter is forever" is like saying > "sdgasdga is forever". Both sentences carry the same amount of meaning. > > Is

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-15 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 1:53:49 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > What does "matter" even mean ? Saying "matter is forever" is like saying > "sdgasdga is forever". Both sentences carry the same amount of meaning. > Is consciousness bounded in time? Is it eternal? Or is it timeless?

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-15 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
What does "matter" even mean ? Saying "matter is forever" is like saying "sdgasdga is forever". Both sentences carry the same amount of meaning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
This reflects the two main Vedas: Advaita Veda, non dualist, and monist immaterialist. And the Vaita Veda, dualist and (weakly) materialist. See my paper on the West and the East, for a little more, and how the []p/[]p duality makes possible to interpret the Vaita Veda as a phenomenology in the

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-14 Thread Philip Thrift
It's a cycle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model @philipthrift On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 1:36:01 PM UTC-5, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > Aha! Thrift. Have at you! What do you think about last month's reveal, by > the University of Munich upon quasi-particles? > Matter, indeed,

Re: Matter is forever

2019-07-14 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Aha! Thrift. Have at you! What do you think about last month's reveal, by the University of Munich upon quasi-particles? Matter, indeed, may be forever?  https://www.realclearscience.com/2019/06/17/quasiparticles_can_become_quotvirtually_immortalquot_286342.htmlIn other words this conceivably