Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, Le 07-janv.-08, à 18:12, John Mikes wrote (to Hal Ruhl) > > Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it > though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" > dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something > like

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
Hey Günther, thanks for the comments. On Jan 9, 6:43 am, Günther Greindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm - your real existing nothing is just a word without referent - like > a null pointer. > Q: "What is on the paper?" > As answer you expect that what is written. > As the paper is still blank:

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: At 04:01 PM 1/8/2008, you wrote: >Hi, Hal: - Hopefully without risking strawmanship, a further remark >on our humanly limited language (however infiltrating into the >'meaning' of texts): >HR: >"...> What I indicated was all paths to completion." >JM: >does anything like 'completion'

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Günther: your reply is well to the point(s) - I feel to explain why I opened Pandora's (empty?) box of nothingness. It was long ago when we discussed these things with Hal, I changed my views a lot since then - as well, as Hal also developed a comprehensive theory of his own. I wrote a macama on

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Gevin, thanks for your comprehensive - and very understandable - explanation about "nothing" (no pun) and its qualia-circumstances. My post to Hal targeted "nothingness" as differentiated from "nothing". The concept, not the qualia or nature of its adjectival meaning. I regret to have missed so fa

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
Hi, > There is a real existing "nothing" and there is a concept nonexistence > and they should never be confused. The real nothing is common, > "nothing in the refrigerator", a white canvas, empty space (the ideal > or direction toward i.e., expansion). The real nothing is simply > balance, unifo

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
On Jan 6, 12:54 pm, Hal Ruhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My view has been that the Nothing is incomplete because it contains > no ability to answer meaningful questions about itself and there is > one it must answer and that is its duration. This question is always > asked and must be answered.

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-09 Thread Gevin Giorbran
On Jan 8, 1:01 pm, "John Mikes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JM: does anything like 'completion' make sense in speaking about an > unlimited totality? Furthermore: are 'copies' considerable substantial > items, or simply our figment of looking from different angles into > different angles - at the

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-08 Thread John Mikes
Hi, Hal: - Hopefully without risking strawmanship, a further remark on our humanly limited language (however infiltrating into the 'meaning' of texts): HR: "...> What I indicated was all paths to completion." JM: does anything like 'completion' make sense in speaking about an unlimited totality?

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi John: At 12:12 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it >though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" >dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something >like: > >"...In the Beginning the

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread John Mikes
Hal, me again (John): Do you seriously mean "How many Nothings"? John On Jan 7, 2008 12:12 PM, John Mikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hal, > > I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it > though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" > dating back

Re: Russell's "Theory of Nothing" and time.

2008-01-07 Thread John Mikes
Hal, I read your post with appreciation (did not follow EVERY word in it though) - it reminded me of my "Naive Ode (no rhymes) of Ontology" dating back into my "pre-Everythinglist" times, that started something like: "...In the Beginning there was Nothingness ( - today I would add: observer of