Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Jun 2012, at 23:53, meekerdb wrote: On 6/18/2012 12:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 18.06.2012 19:33 meekerdb said the following: On 6/13/2012 1:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: And what is that meaning which they have expounded with unanimity and has anyone who is *not* a theologian ever

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jun 2012, at 16:55, meekerdb wrote: On 6/19/2012 12:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Is this the meaning which with some approach to unanimity they have expounded at considerable length. It doesn't sound unanimous with with any theologians I've read. This might be because you confine

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-19 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 18.06.2012 23:53 meekerdb said the following: On 6/18/2012 12:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 18.06.2012 19:33 meekerdb said the following: On 6/13/2012 1:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: And what is that meaning which they have expounded with unanimity and has anyone who is *not* a theologian

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-19 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 19.06.2012 09:50 Bruno Marchal said the following: .. This might be because you confine yourself to christian theologians. I read a long time ago a book (La malle de Newton) which confirms Newton neo-platonic tendencies. Keep in mind that neo-platonist have to hide their idea since Rome,

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-19 Thread meekerdb
On 6/19/2012 11:38 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: As for Newtons arguments for God, please find below quotes from Soul of Science, p. 66-67. If you do not agree, you may want to read Newton's Principia and offer your own interpretation. Evgenii The reason Newton felt free to avoid ultimate causes

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-18 Thread meekerdb
On 6/13/2012 1:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: And what is that meaning which they have expounded with unanimity and has anyone who is *not* a theologian ever believed it? I believe that educated people, for example scientists, have followed theological books. But I asked what *it* is, the

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-18 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 18.06.2012 19:33 meekerdb said the following: On 6/13/2012 1:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: And what is that meaning which they have expounded with unanimity and has anyone who is *not* a theologian ever believed it? I believe that educated people, for example scientists, have followed

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-18 Thread meekerdb
On 6/18/2012 12:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 18.06.2012 19:33 meekerdb said the following: On 6/13/2012 1:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: And what is that meaning which they have expounded with unanimity and has anyone who is *not* a theologian ever believed it? I believe that educated

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-17 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: Note that you will find Kurt Goedel among the authors of ontological arguments on the page above. Somebody mentioned the exact same thing a few months ago and this is what I had to say about it: That was in Godel's later years when

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jun 2012, at 17:09, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: Note that you will find Kurt Goedel among the authors of ontological arguments on the page above. Somebody mentioned the exact same thing a few months ago and this is what I had to

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:17, meekerdb wrote: Here's a thoughtful blog on the meaning of theology. Bruno may want to comment, since his conception of theology might answer the questions put forward.

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-13 Thread meekerdb
On 6/13/2012 1:57 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 12.06.2012 20:17 meekerdb said the following: Here's a thoughtful blog on the meaning of theology. Bruno may want to comment, since his conception of theology might answer the questions put forward.

Re: Theology deepities

2012-06-13 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 13.06.2012 18:24 meekerdb said the following: On 6/13/2012 1:57 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 12.06.2012 20:17 meekerdb said the following: Here's a thoughtful blog on the meaning of theology. Bruno may want to comment, since his conception of theology might answer the questions put forward.