Re: US elections

2012-09-17 Thread John Mikes
You outsiders cannot really know how out-of-topic this fallacy may be. It
is an attempt to use money for dulling the human mind. Really no
relationship to the list's aims.
JohnM

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:


  On 15 Sep 2012, at 22:32, John Clark wrote:


 On Tue, Sep 11,  Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:

  I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the list
 clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-topic.


 How could anything be off topic on the everything list?



 LOL

 Of course, on the everything-list we discuss about the search for a theory
 of everything, which is a very *particular* thing.

 Some things can be invoked, only if it seems to be a counter-example to a
 TOE proposal.

 It is doubtful we found a theory explaining all observable forces, from
 gravitation to love, which would be contradicted by the US election.
 Russell Standish was correct. US election are out of topic.

 Oh! You can use US election and international cannabis prohibition as
 illustrating a giant innumeracy: a lack in elementary logic education,
 which does not help for the unification quest.


 Bruno



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Re: US elections

2012-09-16 Thread Bruno Marchal


On 15 Sep 2012, at 22:32, John Clark wrote:



On Tue, Sep 11,  Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:

 I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the  
list clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off- 
topic.


How could anything be off topic on the everything list?



LOL

Of course, on the everything-list we discuss about the search for a  
theory of everything, which is a very *particular* thing.


Some things can be invoked, only if it seems to be a counter-example  
to a TOE proposal.


It is doubtful we found a theory explaining all observable forces,  
from gravitation to love, which would be contradicted by the US  
election. Russell Standish was correct. US election are out of topic.


Oh! You can use US election and international cannabis prohibition as  
illustrating a giant innumeracy: a lack in elementary logic education,  
which does not help for the unification quest.



Bruno



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Re: US elections

2012-09-15 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Sep 11,  Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:

 I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the list
 clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-topic.


How could anything be off topic on the everything list?

  John K Clark

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Re: US elections

2012-09-14 Thread John Mikes
Russell:
wise words with one flaw: the US doesnot CHOOSE, people are 'trapped into'
especially now that ANY group can spend ANY sum to influence a choosing.
People are susceptible to persuasion - (true or false ones) and the White
House is fo sale.
I participated over the past 80 years in many elections, before 1970 in
Hungary (pre-nazi, nazi, commi) then in the US (capialistic
aristo-democratic, whatever) and appreciate your words deeply.
I wish you could ask for clearing the list from faith-related distractions
as well (although there is a lot of 'faith' called scientific idea) -
except of cours those that I harbor G.

Regards
John Mikes



On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:

 I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the list
 clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-topic.

 Who the US chooses as their president has a significant impact on our
 country, but there's bugger all I can do to influence that result
 anyway, so I may as well find out who won after Americans have voted.

 Cheers

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Re: US elections

2012-09-14 Thread Craig Weinberg
I have to say that it's interesting to see how nobody seems to agree on 
everything here (on the everything list) but I find that everyone that I 
disagree with most in one area, I seem agree with them most in another. Or 
others who I disagree with slightly on everything but in unique balance. 
Some kind of Myers-Briggs type complementarity at work.

Craig

On Friday, September 14, 2012 3:51:29 PM UTC-4, JohnM wrote:

 Russell:
 wise words with one flaw: the US doesnot CHOOSE, people are 'trapped into' 
 especially now that ANY group can spend ANY sum to influence a choosing. 
 People are susceptible to persuasion - (true or false ones) and the White 
 House is fo sale. 
 I participated over the past 80 years in many elections, before 1970 in 
 Hungary (pre-nazi, nazi, commi) then in the US (capialistic 
 aristo-democratic, whatever) and appreciate your words deeply. 
 I wish you could ask for clearing the list from faith-related distractions 
 as well (although there is a lot of 'faith' called scientific idea) - 
 except of cours those that I harbor G.
  
 Regards
 John Mikes


  
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Russell Standish 
 li...@hpcoders.com.aujavascript:
  wrote:

 I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the list
 clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-topic.

 Who the US chooses as their president has a significant impact on our
 country, but there's bugger all I can do to influence that result
 anyway, so I may as well find out who won after Americans have voted.

 Cheers

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 Principal, High Performance Coders
 Visiting Professor of Mathematics  hpc...@hpcoders.com.aujavascript:
 University of New South Wales  http://www.hpcoders.com.au

 

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