Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-27 Thread LizR
I think no one in their right minds would dispute the existence of computer *intelligence*. Even in the 1950s, computers could do some things that required the exercise of intelligence, and they've only got better. Maybe I should have said even in the 1890s, or whenever the Analytical Engine was pr

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-26 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Gabriel Bodeen wrote: > So in the event that somebody actually does make AI, please recall this > and consider your [ Roger B Clough's] philosophical system to have been > falsified. > It's already been falsified. At one time everybody on the planet agreed that s

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-26 Thread LizR
On 27 November 2013 06:38, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > > > Computers cannot simulate human activities or experiences or >> consciousness because they have to deal in code, which consists of >> instructions or descriptions. Computers cannot deal in

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-26 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
So in the event that somebody actually does make AI, please recall this and consider your philosophical system to have been falsified. -Gabe On Monday, November 25, 2013 6:17:15 AM UTC-6, Roger Clough wrote: > > Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-26 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible. > I believe that maintaining that computers can't be conscious is wrong but I can't prove it. But maintaining that a computer can't be intelligent is utterly ridiculous and I

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-25 Thread LizR
On 26 November 2013 01:17, Roger Clough wrote: > Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible. > > Acccording to Bertrand Russell, there are two types of knowledge: > > a) Knowledge by description. It is common knowledge that Obama is president. > &

Re: Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-25 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible. > > Acccording to Bertrand Russell, there are two types of knowledge: > > a) Knowledge by description. It is common knowledge that Obama is president. >

Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible.

2013-11-25 Thread Roger Clough
Why computer consciousness and artificial intelligence are impossible. Acccording to Bertrand Russell, there are two types of knowledge: a) Knowledge by description. It is common knowledge that Obama is president. Example: Computer code. Artificial intelligence. Third person singular. b