Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 17:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The list's welcome message for new subscribers states this > explicitly: > >For general user discussion and mutual support related to the GNOME >Evolution application. > >IMPORTANT: When posting questions always quote your

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 14:59 +0100, rogercreagh--- via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 11:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list > wrote: > > Perhaps the developers could consider to drop HTML, in favour of > > > > maintaining a better plain text editor. > > I'm not sure if that i

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 14:59 +0100, rogercreagh--- via evolution-list wrote: > Already I have been told off for sending html mail to this list (which > > as far as I am concerned is the normal default for email and there was > > nothing I saw on joining the list to suggest that plain text was > >

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread Pete Biggs
> > If tongue in cheek then smiley, if serious then don't you think that > would be rather a retrograde step since almost every email these days > is html. I think that's a bit of a blanket statement - it depends on the audience. > > Already I have been told off for sending html mail to this

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread rogercreagh--- via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 11:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > Perhaps the developers could consider to drop HTML, in favour of > > maintaining a better plain text editor. I'm not sure if that is a tongue in cheek suggestion or serious. If tongue in cheek then smiley, if serious th

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-20 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 23:38 +, Dan Kortschak via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 00:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > I was warned when I was forwarded the email address for evolution > > > support to not expect a very welcoming response. And they were > > > right. > > > Your resp

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 00:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I was warned when I was forwarded the email address for evolution > > support to not expect a very welcoming response. And they were > > right. > > Your response is absolutely pitiful and just cements the poor > > reputation the team has in t

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> I was warned when I was forwarded the email address for evolution > support to not expect a very welcoming response. And they were right. > Your response is absolutely pitiful and just cements the poor > reputation the team has in the community. All you succeeded in doing > was creating another

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 11:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > the editor is fishy, but there are not that many issues when using plain > text. Perhaps the developers could consider to drop HTML, in favour of > maintaining a better plain text editor. Like it or not, many environments out there prefer HT

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:58 +, Van Stokes, Jr. wrote: > I suggest you work on your customer relationship skills. You seem to be labouring under the delusion that this mailing list is provided by some kind of customer support group (since you repeatedly use the word "customer" in your complaint

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Van Stokes, Jr.
e meantime, we will begin to migrate away from Evolution. Thank you for helping us finalize our company's future email path. From: Andre Klapper Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 05:03 To: evolution-list@gnome.org ; Van Stokes, Jr. Subject: Re: [Evolution] E

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 11:27 +, Van Stokes, Jr. wrote: > Please dedicate some time and resources to addressing or replacing the > editor. Hi, the editor is fishy, but there are not that many issues when using plain text. Perhaps the developers could consider to drop HTML, in favour of maintain

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:58 +, Van Stokes, Jr. wrote: > I was warned when I was forwarded the email address for evolution > support to not expect a very welcoming response. And they were right. > Your response is absolutely pitiful and just cements the poor > reputation the team has in the

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Pete Biggs
> > I have been using Evolution for 10+ years on Ubuntu. I use it with > Office365. > The weekeast thing about Evolution is it's editor. It's a disaster. > So if you've been using it "for 10+ years", has it always been such a "disaster" or is it a recent thing. Have you submitted bug reports

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi vstokes, On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 11:27 +, Van Stokes, Jr. wrote: > Ubuntu Version: 20.04.01 x64 > Evolution Version: 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 > > Evolution Team, > > I have been using Evolution for 10+ years on Ubuntu. I use it with > Office365. > The weekeast thing about Evolution is it's editor. It'

[Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention

2020-08-19 Thread Van Stokes, Jr.
Ubuntu Version: 20.04.01 x64 Evolution Version: 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 Evolution Team, I have been using Evolution for 10+ years on Ubuntu. I use it with Office365. The weekeast thing about Evolution is it's editor. It's a disaster. It needs serious attention. 1) UNDO is a disaster If I paste somethin

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > 3) The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own > > experience) > > , but - they are unable to get down to our "Layman" level > > naturally, so > > when you pose a question, be specific and say where you are at this > > stage. > Indeed, but part of our problem is that Evolution is s

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-18 Thread rogercreagh--- via evolution-list
On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 16:33 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 22:14 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list > wrote: > > Hi Roger, > > Who is Roger? That'll be me then 🙂 It is a bit confusing the way this list is set up. Evolution (in my case) has defaulted to sending email

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-18 Thread rogercreagh--- via evolution-list
On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 22:14 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > > 1) Yes, Linux in general is made for programmers, those confident in > command line ... And the echos of that genesis persist even in the various GUIs, although largely hidden now. You could say that the underlying philoso

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Alex Evans via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 00:55 +0200, Ángel wrote: > On 2020-08-17 at 06:56 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > > Hi Andre, > > > > Trying to be rude? Why ignore my start of that segment : > > The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own > > experience) > > > > Cheers > > Alex

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Ángel
On 2020-08-17 at 06:56 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Trying to be rude? Why ignore my start of that segment : > The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own experience) > > Cheers > Alex Hi Alex And this shows why top-posting is problematic. I initially

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Pete Biggs
On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 06:52 +1000, Alex Evans wrote: > Hi Pete, As I said to someone else on the list today, please don't top post here. > > Thanks for your comments, yes - you are right. I use only POP accounts. POP is increasingly less used, so it is unwise to extrapolate generalities from a

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 06:52 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > KDE - can I install it ontop of GNOME? [Please don't top-post (i.e. add your comments *after* the text you wish to comment on, and trim everything unrelated). See this reply for an example.] Gnome is a Desktop Environment o

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Alex Evans via evolution-list
Hi Andre, Trying to be rude? Why ignore my start of that segment : The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own experience) Cheers Alex On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 16:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 22:14 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list > wrote: > > 1) Yes, Lin

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Alex Evans via evolution-list
Hi Pete, Thanks for your comments, yes - you are right. I use only POP accounts. KDE - can I install it ontop of GNOME? If I don't like it, can I go back? Is there a list of extra's i provides? How to install? Yes, I am one of those Laymen, please talks down to me... Cheers Alex On Sun, 20

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 22:14 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > Hi Roger, Who is Roger? If you meant this as a reply to some existing thread then you should have used Reply-To-List (Ctrl-L), or failing that Reply-To- All (Shift-Ctrl-R) - rather than composing a new message with a new top

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sun, 2020-08-16 at 22:14 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > 1) Yes, Linux in general is made for programmers, those confident in > command line ... I'm not aware of any steps I'd have to perform on a command line to do my everyday work in modern graphical interfaces like GNOME, KDE,

Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Pete Biggs
> > 3) The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own experience) > , but - they are unable to get down to our "Layman" level naturally, so > when you pose a question, be specific and say where you are at this > stage. It's not that people have a problem "getting down" to a layman lev

[Evolution] Evolution setup

2020-08-16 Thread Alex Evans via evolution-list
Hi Roger, I am also new to Linux, after 30 years with Windows and am struggling I will make some general comments first: 1) Yes, Linux in general is made for programmers, those confident in command line ... 2) What makes it more "Interesting" is the fact that there are so many versions, when

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 07:21 +1000, Alex Evans via evolution-list wrote: > Thanks Angel > Very informative, thnaks for sharing > I have in the meantime managed to find the Clear trash on exit option, > with help of the forum here > CheersAlex Please don't top-post in replies on the list. Thanks.

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-11 Thread Alex Evans via evolution-list
Thanks Angel Very informative, thnaks for sharing I have in the meantime managed to find the Clear trash on exit option, with help of the forum here CheersAlex On Tue, 2020-08-11 at 19:53 +0200, Ángel wrote: > On 2020-08-10 at 19:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm sharing POP accounts wi

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-11 Thread Ángel
On 2020-08-10 at 19:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sharing POP accounts with different mailers. One of them is > Evolution. In Evolution my POP accounts are set up to delete mails > after > 1 day from the server. Other MUAs don't delete the emails from the > server. There's no reason

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 12:07 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > Disable support for all POP3 extensions? Don't use this option! I once used it as a workaround to get rid of an issue, but it introduced other issues. I don't remember the issues anymore, IIRC it's somewhere in the Evolution mailing list arc

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 09:45 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > Otherwise, if you are using POP with leaving email on server, I have > seen that screw up several email clients, not just Evolution. POP is > simply not intended to be used as a permanent email store for multiple > clients. Clients get confuse

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread Ángel
On 2020-08-10 at 09:45 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 8/10/20 9:32 AM, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > No, it's just a vanilla isp, usses POP port 110 no encryption > > #John > > You can run Evolution with debugging to view the POP commands used. If > you understand POP that might help you.

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread George Reeke
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > >

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread George Reeke
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > >

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 14:56 +0100, John Nice wrote: > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but Evolution > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, port > 110, no encryption, authenticat

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread Zan Lynx
On 8/10/20 9:32 AM, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: No, it's just a vanilla isp, usses POP port 110 no encryption #John You can run Evolution with debugging to view the POP commands used. If you understand POP that might help you. Otherwise, if you are using POP with leaving email on ser

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 14:56 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > I am a very new Linux user. Decades ago I was an HP-UX sysadmin, but > starting again I went the Zorin route and I'm very happy. > > I very much like Evolution. It's a suite of useful functions and I've > enjoyed getting to

Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread John Nice via evolution-list
No, it's just a vanilla isp, usses POP port 110 no encryption #John On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, 15:33 Ralf Mardorf, wrote: > On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 14:56 +0100, John Nice > wrote: > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sy

[Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails

2020-08-10 Thread John Nice via evolution-list
I am a very new Linux user. Decades ago I was an HP-UX sysadmin, but starting again I went the Zorin route and I'm very happy. I very much like Evolution. It's a suite of useful functions and I've enjoyed getting to know it. BUT, I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-08-08 Thread Jerome Lille
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 18:23 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 08:53 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > I filled an issue for you: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/237 > > Hi, > just a little follow up, thus you

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and "it's" search engine ?

2020-08-07 Thread Tom
Am Donnerstag, den 06.08.2020, 15:38 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper: > On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 15:22 +0200, Tom wrote: > > When I right-click into a message body and select "Search web", the > > search always uses DuckDuckGo (what's not my preferred interface). > > > > Can I change the search engine ?

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Gmail Connect Problem

2020-08-06 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 12:40 -0400, Full Name wrote: > Upon starting Evolution, it went completely back to > the same "Scanning folders" problem, but without any of the old, > local emails however. (Observation: that account information is > stored somewhere besides .cache and .config. I would

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-08-06 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 08:53 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > I filled an issue for you: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/237 Hi, just a little follow up, thus you know I didn't forget of it. I wrote it also to the bug report: I verified th

Re: [Evolution] Evolution and "it's" search engine ?

2020-08-06 Thread Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 15:22 +0200, Tom wrote: > When I right-click into a message body and select "Search web", the > search always uses DuckDuckGo (what's not my preferred interface). > > Can I change the search engine ? You can either use dconf-editor, or a terminal window. For the latter, to ge

[Evolution] Evolution and "it's" search engine ?

2020-08-06 Thread Tom
Hi there, short question, on what I don't find google tipps: When I right-click into a message body and select "Search web", the search always uses DuckDuckGo (what's not my preferred interface). Can I change the search engine ? Best, Thomas ___ evolu

Re: [Evolution] evolution-ews error "Connection terminated unexpectedly"

2020-08-05 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 10:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 07:50 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > > Is this something that is known? > > Yes. See the mailing list archives, e.g. > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-November/msg00013.html Thanks. That makes sens

Re: [Evolution] evolution-ews error "Connection terminated unexpectedly"

2020-08-05 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 07:50 +, Dan Kortschak wrote: > Is this something that is known? Yes. See the mailing list archives, e.g. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2016-November/msg00013.html Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ _

[Evolution] evolution-ews error "Connection terminated unexpectedly"

2020-08-05 Thread Dan Kortschak via evolution-list
I am using evolution with evolution-ews for interaction with a work email server. The version is 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2. Reasonably regularly I see the following error pop-up. The error does not appear to cause any fatal problem (though is irritating), so I'm wondering if the cause is known (and

Re: [Evolution] Evolution Gmail Connect Problem

2020-08-03 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-08-03 at 08:53 -0400, Full Name wrote: > The computer came back up no problems, but Evolution is lost in > space. I can start it, the interface comes up fine and it kicks off > about 10 processes dealing with the address book, etc, but all the > email and folders are gone, and it endle

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
Hi, On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:25:11 +0100, Michelle via evolution-list wrote: >evolution-backup is not present in /usr/lib/evolution ^^^ /usr/libexec/evolution/evolution-bac

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-28 Thread Michelle via evolution-list
Well, that was strange. evolution-backup was previously at - /usr/lib/evolution - which was what is in my backup script and was working fine before the update to Mint 20. After checking, I found it at /usr/libexec/evolution I went to test it and attempted to start the test by shutting down evolu

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-28 Thread Jerome Lille
On Mon, 2020-07-27 at 08:53 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 15:03 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > I tried to, but the webpage says that "Please note that due to > > spam, > > new user registrations are disabled. " and I don't have any of the > > supported accounts

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-28 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 17:25 +0100, Michelle via evolution-list wrote: > Libevolution is present at version 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 but evolution-backup > is not present in /usr/lib/evolution. I have tried removal and > reinstall of that package. The location of the "evolution-backup" executable file depen

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-28 Thread Michelle via evolution-list
ia evolution-list wrote: > > I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 > > > > However, I was using /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup to perform > > an > > automatic backup of my e-mail (plus, filter rules, account > > settings. > &g

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 05:36 +0100, Michelle via evolution-list wrote: > I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 > > However, I was using /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup to perform an > automatic backup of my e-mail (plus, filter rules, account sett

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 05:36 +0100, Michelle via evolution-list wrote: > I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 > > However, I was using /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup Hi, libevolution (3.36.3-0ubuntu1) [universe] https://packages.ubuntu.com

Re: [Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-27 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 06:05 +0100, Michelle via evolution-list wrote: > I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 > ... > What's the replacement please, how do I get it back or is it just a > case of waiting for catch-up? Hi, the evolution-backup is still in the u

[Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-27 Thread Michelle via evolution-list
I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 However, I was using /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup to perform an automatic backup of my e-mail (plus, filter rules, account settings. etc., not just the e-mails themselves) twice a week (more regularly than my whole

[Evolution] Evolution-backup gone after Mint upgrade to 20

2020-07-27 Thread Michelle via evolution-list
(Apologies if I've sent this twice to the list) I've just upgraded Mint to 20 and Evolution is now 3.36.3-0ubuntu1 However, I was using /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup to perform an automatic backup of my e-mail (plus, filter rules, account settings. etc., not just the e-mails

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-26 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 15:03 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > I tried to, but the webpage says that "Please note that due to spam, > new user registrations are disabled. " and I don't have any of the > supported accounts. Hi, right, you might create an account there and use it to log into the G

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-24 Thread Jerome Lille
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 10:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > Would you mind to file a bug report here [1], please? I do not know > where exactly the problem can be, the evolution-data-server is a good > starting point. > > Thanks and bye, > Milan > > [1] https://gitlab

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-24 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 10:11 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > I think the Evolution proxy handling is faulty. > > Forgot to mention, I'm running Evolution 3.36.4 on Fedora 32 Hi, I briefly checked the code and it looks correct, a proxy resolver is propagated down to the SoupSession. That it

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-24 Thread Jerome Lille
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 10:05 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > I think the Evolution proxy handling is faulty. Forgot to mention, I'm running Evolution 3.36.4 on Fedora 32 /Jerome ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your lis

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-24 Thread Jerome Lille
On Thu, 2020-07-23 at 09:08 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2020-07-22 at 09:17 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > A question about the Network Preferences dialog. Are changes to the > > custom proxy settings supposed to work immediately? If not, then > > when? > > Hi, > it

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 10:48 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I don't know if anyone announced this change or if the Evolution devs > are aware of it. Hi, unfortunately, I'm not aware of it. The bogofilter developers could announce it, but I'm not subscribed to their lists, thus that would miss m

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-23 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-07-22 at 09:17 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > A question about the Network Preferences dialog. Are changes to the > custom proxy settings supposed to work immediately? If not, then > when? Hi, it's immediately, as in: the next time the backend tries to connect to the server. Tha

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-22 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > That's your conclusion but we have no idea how you came to that > > conclusion. > > It's not that hard to imagine, why somebody has got this guess, if > something

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-22 Thread Jerome Lille
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 08:21 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 18:32 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > But I don't understand why Evolution > > would try to talk directly with the external source. I think it > > only > > should talk to my Nextcloud server. And it shoul

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 17:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > It reminds me of the other "issue". "The ecological footprint". > > Most of the privileged classes care about their "ecological footprint" > and most of the poor people don't care at all, but actually the > privileged clas

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I recommend a "psychotherapy". For the records, I've set the moderation flag on this account. Please read and follow https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct if you would like to be active in GNOME community spaces. Thanks for keepin

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 10:56 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > Can we please, PLEASE not get into this here? I've read every single > argument there is to read, pro and con, about this issue over and over > on every F/OSS list I subscribe to (and I subscribe to many of them). Hi, that's interesting, sin

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 10:48 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 09:16 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via > evolution-list wrote: > > {"name": > > "bogofilter","buildsystem": > > "simple","build-commands": ["cd > > ./bogofilter/ &

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 09:16 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via > evolution-list wrote: > > > My apologies for assuming [...] the Evolution dev team had followed > > the rest of the software development world in moving away th

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 09:16 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution- list wrote: > { > "name": "bogofilter", > "buildsystem": "simple", > "build-commands": [ > "cd ./bogofilter/ && echo \"# Skip for Flatpak > build\" > doc/Makefile.am &&

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
It reminds me of the other "issue". "The ecological footprint". Most of the privileged classes care about their "ecological footprint" and most of the poor people don't care at all, but actually the privileged classes that care a lot, are those consuming most and who have the most worse "ecologica

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 09:16 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list wrote: > My apologies for assuming [...] the Evolution dev team had followed the rest > of > the software development world in moving away the master/slave terminology. I seriously doubt that "the world" moved away from

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:43:30 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: >That's your conclusion but we have no idea how you came to that >conclusion. It's not that hard to imagine, why somebody has got this guess, if something doesn't work as expected. Even the German television news report related to the keywor

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 15:43 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 08:18 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution- > list wrote: > > I'm trying to build the lastest version of Evolution available in > > flatpak. > > Which instructions do you follow (URL)? https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps

Re: [Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 08:18 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution- list wrote: > I'm trying to build the lastest version of Evolution available in > flatpak. Which instructions do you follow (URL)? > The problem appears to be that Evolution has moved from the > master/slave notation and flat

[Evolution] Evolution where did it move on git naming ?

2020-07-21 Thread Japhering, Anonymous via evolution-list
I'm trying to build the lastest version of Evolution available in flatpak. The problem appears to be that Evolution has moved from the master/slave notation and flatpak has not be updated, at least not for Linux Mint. So what terms did the Evolution team decide to use as replacments for master/

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 18:32 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > But I don't understand why Evolution > would try to talk directly with the external source. I think it only > should talk to my Nextcloud server. And it should talk to webcal.fi Hi, the Nextcloud advertises the external calendar as a

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-20 Thread Jerome Lille
On Mon, 2020-07-20 at 09:18 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 10:03 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > Any ideas what is the problem? > > Hi, > try to run the evolution-calendar-factory with debugging on, to see > what it does. I'd guess it tries to connect to t

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-20 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 10:03 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > Any ideas what is the problem? Hi, try to run the evolution-calendar-factory with debugging on, to see what it does. I'd guess it tries to connect to the subscribed calendar with wrong credentials. The command is (the actual path ca

Re: [Evolution] Evolution not taking password

2020-07-19 Thread matthew grossman
Found this article about apps not using OAuth needing a secret key associated with the email account, which is substituted for the email password inside Evolution. Generated secret key under my ATT profile and Evolution is now working. https://forums.att.com/conversations/att-internet-email-se

Re: [Evolution] Evolution not taking password

2020-07-18 Thread Andre Klapper
On Sat, 2020-07-18 at 09:57 -0400, matthew grossman wrote: > Evolution 3.36.4 > Linux Pop OS 20.04 (Ubuntu) > Auto-configured using bellsouth.net account (POP3) > inbound.att.net: 995 > outbound.att.net: 465 > TLS encryption > > Fetching mail > password prompt > Broken pipe, wont accept password T

[Evolution] Evolution not taking password

2020-07-18 Thread matthew grossman
Evolution 3.36.4 Linux Pop OS 20.04 (Ubuntu) Auto-configured using bellsouth.net account (POP3) inbound.att.net : 995 outbound.att.net : 465 TLS encryption Fetching mail > password prompt > Broken pipe, wont accept password

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-18 Thread Jerome Lille
On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 14:18 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 08:18 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > I already have a proxy/tor-relay on my laptop. It runs on > > > localhost:9050. For example I have conf

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 14:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 11:21 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 23:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > > I don't understand what you're trying to do. What services are > > > > running > > > > on the Nextcloud server that

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-17 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 11:21 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 23:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > I don't understand what you're trying to do. What services are > > > running > > > on the Nextcloud server that Evolution would connect to? Mail? LDAP? > > > > The answer is

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-17 Thread Jerome Lille
On Fri, 2020-07-17 at 08:18 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > I already have a proxy/tor-relay on my laptop. It runs on > > localhost:9050. For example I have configured the Nextcloud desktop > > client to use that proxy to conn

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 23:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > I don't understand what you're trying to do. What services are > > running > > on the Nextcloud server that Evolution would connect to? Mail? LDAP? > > > The answer is in the part you quoted, Calendar and Contacts. Those are general cate

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > I already have a proxy/tor-relay on my laptop. It runs on > localhost:9050. For example I have configured the Nextcloud desktop > client to use that proxy to connect to my Nextcloud server. > > But I don't know how to do the same with Evolut

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Gary Koskenmaki
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 23:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 22:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 13:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:59 +

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Jerome Lille
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 22:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 13:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list > > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > > It is impossible to connect to

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 18:52 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 13:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > > It is impossible to connect to a onion-address? I mean for calendar > > > and contacts? > > > > Hi,

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Jerome Lille
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 13:36 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > > It is impossible to connect to a onion-address? I mean for calendar > > and contacts? > > Hi, > you do not need to resend the question, (I guess) people would

Re: [Evolution] Evolution & onion-adress

2020-07-16 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:59 +0200, Jerome Lille wrote: > It is impossible to connect to a onion-address? I mean for calendar > and contacts? Hi, you do not need to resend the question, (I guess) people would answer if they know the answer, or even when they notice the question at all (you

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