RE: SMTP connector and smart hosts

2002-09-19 Thread Davy Rowland

Hi,

One option would be to create a CNAME in DNS for your two smtp servers, give
the CNAME something like smtp.mycompany.com and use this alias as the smart
host. You can then round robin between the two servers and provide failover
if one of them goes down.

Davy

-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 18 September 2002 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP connector and smart hosts


Is there a way to put multiple smart hosts in the General Tab on the SMTP
connectors?  I have two bridgehead servers I want to use to send messages
to.  One in CA, one in Indiana.  Can I put both IP numbers in there enclosed
in []?  If so, what's the separator?  Comma, semicolon, or space?

Also would this work in a fail over situation?  

If this, can't be done.. How can I create something that would do this?

Thanks in advance. 

Wilson



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*groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Exchange.ListServe

Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't pay
for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option IMO
other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a similar
situation would do, with regard to archiving. 

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would archiving
essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients, in case 
of compliance issues.


Jon


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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Hurst, Paul

Jon,

IMHO Don't go down that route, before I joined here they went for that, now
we have uses that get corrupt PST's because they are knocking around the
1.84GB limit, they make copies of the PST (one for March, then another in
June with 10% more email). All it does is move the problem of space onto
either a non-secure desktop/laptop or fill up a file server. I would just
make sure that the server is of reasonable spec and KEEP it on exchange
where it belongs (since you have no money to archive it). ALSO see FAQ why
PST=BAD.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Exchange.ListServe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 September 2002 10:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: *groan* PST Files


Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't
pay
for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option IMO
other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a
similar
situation would do, with regard to archiving. 

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would
archiving
essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients,
in case 
of compliance issues.


Jon



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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Moir

As it seems that you do actually need large email stores to archive mail which 
presumably needs to be reliably stored so you can actually get it back (or else whats 
the point of bothering to archive it?), what business functionality would moving them 
from a nice reliable easy to back up and manage exchange database store to a 
unreliable, difficult to control and backup PST file?
 
I'm not a fan of shuffling stuff around between different file stores to be honest, it 
is at best a short term solution that won't solve your actual problem. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Exchange.ListServe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thu 19/09/2002 10:02 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: *groan* PST Files



Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't pay
for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option IMO
other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a 
similar
situation would do, with regard to archiving.

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would 
archiving
essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients, in 
case
of compliance issues.


Jon



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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Andrea Coppini

Implement strict mailbox quotas.  Block GIF, JPG, MP*, AVI and other multimedia files. 
 Do not allow e-mails larger than 5Mb to be anywhere in your information store.  Teach 
users to use file shares rather than e-mail to send stuff across.

And one last thing, implement this policy throughout your organisation  Teach the 
boss that no matter how much he shouts and threatens, Exchange server will still have 
a 16gb limitation, which will shout back at him if he insists on sending/receiving 
child-porn/car photos/yacht layout diagrams

In other words, be ruthless...until the money comes in for an upgrade..

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 September 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: *groan* PST Files


As it seems that you do actually need large email stores to archive mail which 
presumably needs to be reliably stored so you can actually get it back (or else whats 
the point of bothering to archive it?), what business functionality would moving them 
from a nice reliable easy to back up and manage exchange database store to a 
unreliable, difficult to control and backup PST file?
 
I'm not a fan of shuffling stuff around between different file stores to be honest, it 
is at best a short term solution that won't solve your actual problem. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Exchange.ListServe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thu 19/09/2002 10:02 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: *groan* PST Files



Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't pay
for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option IMO
other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a 
similar
situation would do, with regard to archiving.

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would 
archiving
essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients, in 
case
of compliance issues.


Jon



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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Morrison, Mike L.

Perzactly. Jon-- the arguments you need to use to management are: Is disk
space for file servers cheaper than diskspace (and an upgrade to enterprise
edition)? Not to mention the extra tape storage for backups, and headaches
for users and you when they need a .pst file back. Once you start down the
.pst path, there is almost no way to get back from it-- users get used to
using them and are difficult to un-train. Keep in mind that .pst files:

1) Break SIS-- you will now have umpteen copies of that pretty 25 MB
powerpoint presentation instead of just 1.
2) .PST files save a plain text version and a rich text version of every
file (and attachment, I believe). Therefore, they are automatically roughly
double the size of the mail as it sits in the database: i.e. a 200 MB
mailbox becomes a 400 MB .pst.
3) As Paul mentions, have a hard 2 gig limit, and are unstable after about
500 MB or less.

Mike Morrison
Staff System Engineer
Fletcher Allen Health Care 

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 5:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: *groan* PST Files


Jon,

IMHO Don't go down that route, before I joined here they went for that, now
we have uses that get corrupt PST's because they are knocking around the
1.84GB limit, they make copies of the PST (one for March, then another in
June with 10% more email). All it does is move the problem of space onto
either a non-secure desktop/laptop or fill up a file server. I would just
make sure that the server is of reasonable spec and KEEP it on exchange
where it belongs (since you have no money to archive it). ALSO see FAQ why
PST=BAD.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Exchange.ListServe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 September 2002 10:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: *groan* PST Files


Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't
pay for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option
IMO other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a
similar situation would do, with regard to archiving. 

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would
archiving essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients,
in case 
of compliance issues.


Jon



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RE: Hard Drive Utilization

2002-09-19 Thread Waters, Jeff

Any time, I don't know if you have a server, or are going to be getting a
new one.  If you are getting a new one be sure to take a look at the EXP
line of expansion boxes.  I also know they are recreating the X line of
servers again, and of course they can't leave the good systems in place.
The 342 close to the one you have now, and has a good price.  The 350 is a
great system if you can still find one.  Also take a look at the
ServeRAID-4H card, it will double your Cache Memory, has a 266 over a 100
Microprocessor, and is a 4 channel card so you can have up to 4 independent
disk arms (always a good thing).
Happy Server Building!

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Thanks for all of your information.  I think we are going to build a new
server the proper way and migrate everyone over.  I don't think that our CIO
would want to risk us doing a DR situation if we don't have to even if it
involves more work.  Reason being that we have been so busy that no one has
ever let us come up with a strategy.  This environment has been here for
about a year and a half and still no time for us to complete one.  That's a
whole nother story.  



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

If you are a single channel RAID5 yes.  You would need to crack open the box
and disconnect the NETBAY3 from the current channel and connect it to the
2nd channel on the controller.  This would break the established RAID.  Then
you would build the box from the ground up, starting with the IBM Raid CD so
you can recreate your drives.
If you do this I would recommend you do the OS/Log as a RAID1 (with 2
logical drives) and enroll the 3rd drive as a spare.  Then do the 2nd as a
RAID5.  
Think of it as a way to test your DR plans.  The good news is if you do it
this way and still don't get the performance you are looking for, when you
add the EXP you will only have to tell exchange to move your log files to
the new drives.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


We have Netbay3. Am I going to have to rebuild the box to do all this?  

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Do you have the Netfinity NETBAY3 so that you can use up to 6 drives?  If
you don't, and you aren't using something like the EXP300 external bay then
you are physically limited to 3 drives and one arm.  If you have the NETBAY3
you can run up to 6 drives with 3 on each channel, or with all 6 on one
channel.  To go beyond that you are going to be looking at something like
the EXP300 or 500 expansion bays.
If you don't have the NETBAY3 I would get one, and then get the store on a
different arm/channel.
Here are your choices as I see them from the top of my head.
using a NETBAY3;
1 channel and 3 raid 1 drives, then you could do os, logs, and store on
separate drives however you are still going to take a performance hit
because they are all on the same channel.
2 channels
1- Raid1 drive and 2 logical drives on 1 channel for the OS and Logs
1- Raid1 drive with 1 logical drive for the store.
Not the optimum, however you will at least get your logs and store on
separate drive arms.  I had this for a couple of years and it worked fine.
Get yourself an EXP unit;
1-Raid 1 in the server for the OS
1-Raid 1 in the EXP for the logs
1-Raid 5 in the EXP for the stores
The EXP is a duel channel bus, this would put your OS, Logs and Store all on
separate channels and give you the best performance.

What I have done for our severs is run both the NETBAY3 and an EXP500, this
allows me to run two channels within the servers, and split the EXP between
two servers.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Oh it's a 86565RY.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Sorry brain dead, I missed the netfinity part.  What server are you running
this in?  If you have the IBM raid manager loaded you can run that within
windows, otherwise you either run the config or open the box up.  Your
server configuration is going to determine how the drives are setup.  If you
get me the model of IBM server you have I can give more information.  I know
the 4M card very well as we have a few of them here.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

SnapShot (Imaging backup ) PowerQuest V2I Protector

2002-09-19 Thread Jean-Francois Bourdeau

Hi

I backuped up 2.78 GB live in 10 minutes with the new Powerquest V2i
Protector.  ( backuped up an ex2000 server )

Does anyone use that kind of product in conjunction with ordinary
backup method (for the logs files etc ) to make restore faster ?

JF


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RE: Hard Drive Utilization

2002-09-19 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

I am so excited. NOT!!!  I think we are going to look into buying a 342 with 15k 
drives instead of the 7.2k that we have now.  I will build the arrays properly and 
then use Veritas with IDR to perform a disaster recovery.  It shouldn't take more than 
a day I hope.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Any time, I don't know if you have a server, or are going to be getting a
new one.  If you are getting a new one be sure to take a look at the EXP
line of expansion boxes.  I also know they are recreating the X line of
servers again, and of course they can't leave the good systems in place.
The 342 close to the one you have now, and has a good price.  The 350 is a
great system if you can still find one.  Also take a look at the
ServeRAID-4H card, it will double your Cache Memory, has a 266 over a 100
Microprocessor, and is a 4 channel card so you can have up to 4 independent
disk arms (always a good thing).
Happy Server Building!

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Thanks for all of your information.  I think we are going to build a new
server the proper way and migrate everyone over.  I don't think that our CIO
would want to risk us doing a DR situation if we don't have to even if it
involves more work.  Reason being that we have been so busy that no one has
ever let us come up with a strategy.  This environment has been here for
about a year and a half and still no time for us to complete one.  That's a
whole nother story.  



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

If you are a single channel RAID5 yes.  You would need to crack open the box
and disconnect the NETBAY3 from the current channel and connect it to the
2nd channel on the controller.  This would break the established RAID.  Then
you would build the box from the ground up, starting with the IBM Raid CD so
you can recreate your drives.
If you do this I would recommend you do the OS/Log as a RAID1 (with 2
logical drives) and enroll the 3rd drive as a spare.  Then do the 2nd as a
RAID5.  
Think of it as a way to test your DR plans.  The good news is if you do it
this way and still don't get the performance you are looking for, when you
add the EXP you will only have to tell exchange to move your log files to
the new drives.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


We have Netbay3. Am I going to have to rebuild the box to do all this?  

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Do you have the Netfinity NETBAY3 so that you can use up to 6 drives?  If
you don't, and you aren't using something like the EXP300 external bay then
you are physically limited to 3 drives and one arm.  If you have the NETBAY3
you can run up to 6 drives with 3 on each channel, or with all 6 on one
channel.  To go beyond that you are going to be looking at something like
the EXP300 or 500 expansion bays.
If you don't have the NETBAY3 I would get one, and then get the store on a
different arm/channel.
Here are your choices as I see them from the top of my head.
using a NETBAY3;
1 channel and 3 raid 1 drives, then you could do os, logs, and store on
separate drives however you are still going to take a performance hit
because they are all on the same channel.
2 channels
1- Raid1 drive and 2 logical drives on 1 channel for the OS and Logs
1- Raid1 drive with 1 logical drive for the store.
Not the optimum, however you will at least get your logs and store on
separate drive arms.  I had this for a couple of years and it worked fine.
Get yourself an EXP unit;
1-Raid 1 in the server for the OS
1-Raid 1 in the EXP for the logs
1-Raid 5 in the EXP for the stores
The EXP is a duel channel bus, this would put your OS, Logs and Store all on
separate channels and give you the best performance.

What I have done for our severs is run both the NETBAY3 and an EXP500, this
allows me to run two channels within the servers, and split the EXP between
two servers.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Oh it's a 86565RY.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Sorry brain dead, I missed the netfinity part.  What 

RE: Hard Drive Utilization

2002-09-19 Thread Gonzalez, Alex

Hey you don't by chance know of anything that would Ghost these servers would you.  
Symantec and Server Image both say they wont work.  They said it wouldn't work with 
Compaq's either but it does.  I know that it doesn't with these though.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Any time, I don't know if you have a server, or are going to be getting a
new one.  If you are getting a new one be sure to take a look at the EXP
line of expansion boxes.  I also know they are recreating the X line of
servers again, and of course they can't leave the good systems in place.
The 342 close to the one you have now, and has a good price.  The 350 is a
great system if you can still find one.  Also take a look at the
ServeRAID-4H card, it will double your Cache Memory, has a 266 over a 100
Microprocessor, and is a 4 channel card so you can have up to 4 independent
disk arms (always a good thing).
Happy Server Building!

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Thanks for all of your information.  I think we are going to build a new
server the proper way and migrate everyone over.  I don't think that our CIO
would want to risk us doing a DR situation if we don't have to even if it
involves more work.  Reason being that we have been so busy that no one has
ever let us come up with a strategy.  This environment has been here for
about a year and a half and still no time for us to complete one.  That's a
whole nother story.  



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

If you are a single channel RAID5 yes.  You would need to crack open the box
and disconnect the NETBAY3 from the current channel and connect it to the
2nd channel on the controller.  This would break the established RAID.  Then
you would build the box from the ground up, starting with the IBM Raid CD so
you can recreate your drives.
If you do this I would recommend you do the OS/Log as a RAID1 (with 2
logical drives) and enroll the 3rd drive as a spare.  Then do the 2nd as a
RAID5.  
Think of it as a way to test your DR plans.  The good news is if you do it
this way and still don't get the performance you are looking for, when you
add the EXP you will only have to tell exchange to move your log files to
the new drives.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


We have Netbay3. Am I going to have to rebuild the box to do all this?  

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Do you have the Netfinity NETBAY3 so that you can use up to 6 drives?  If
you don't, and you aren't using something like the EXP300 external bay then
you are physically limited to 3 drives and one arm.  If you have the NETBAY3
you can run up to 6 drives with 3 on each channel, or with all 6 on one
channel.  To go beyond that you are going to be looking at something like
the EXP300 or 500 expansion bays.
If you don't have the NETBAY3 I would get one, and then get the store on a
different arm/channel.
Here are your choices as I see them from the top of my head.
using a NETBAY3;
1 channel and 3 raid 1 drives, then you could do os, logs, and store on
separate drives however you are still going to take a performance hit
because they are all on the same channel.
2 channels
1- Raid1 drive and 2 logical drives on 1 channel for the OS and Logs
1- Raid1 drive with 1 logical drive for the store.
Not the optimum, however you will at least get your logs and store on
separate drive arms.  I had this for a couple of years and it worked fine.
Get yourself an EXP unit;
1-Raid 1 in the server for the OS
1-Raid 1 in the EXP for the logs
1-Raid 5 in the EXP for the stores
The EXP is a duel channel bus, this would put your OS, Logs and Store all on
separate channels and give you the best performance.

What I have done for our severs is run both the NETBAY3 and an EXP500, this
allows me to run two channels within the servers, and split the EXP between
two servers.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Oh it's a 86565RY.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Sorry brain dead, I missed the netfinity part.  What server are you running
this in? 

Are Deleted Items Logged?..etc

2002-09-19 Thread Mellott, Bill

Q: 
When a user delete's items in OL/Exch does the Exchange system log this
action?  
Does it log that fact that a user would then empty the deleted items?
Does it log the fact that the items where recovered from the retention?
What log's might I look at for this info?

Exch55sp4 NT4sp6a

Yes..issue in management...

thanks
bill



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Calendar Detail in Outlook

2002-09-19 Thread Brian Ko

Hello!

I am wondering if anyone has run into a simliar problem as I have using
the AutoAccept utility.

OS:Windows 2000 SP2
Servers:  Exchange 5.5 SP4 with CDO update
Clients:  Outlook 2000 and 2002

We've been using AutoAccept utility (wonderful tool)  to manage our
conference rooms for a while and ran into a small problem.  I am trying
to find out if anyone has run into a simliar problem and have done
anything about it.

Description of a problem:

When someone books a meeting with one of AutoAccept configured
conference room, Calendar Detail disappears in Outlook until someone
manaully goes into a conference room to republish the information.  This
also happens when someone cancels a meeting from a AutoAccept configured
conference room as well.  This only happens to conference/resources
configured with AutoAccept.  One other thing we noticed is that when
Calendar details disappears, it seems to publish Free/Busy information
more than it's supposed to, like over 5 years.

What I am wondering is if anyone ran into simliar problems.  If so, have
you found any fix to this problem.

Thank you in advance,

Brian


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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Exchange.ListServe

Much like Robert, it's an inherited policy that I've stumbled into the
sole reponsibilty of, and I'm cobbling bits of info together for a
guideline and policy docco to stamp some authority over it. It gets a bit
worrying though, when 8-10 people contantly use nearly a fifth of the
servers capacity.

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Recovering data from client-side OST files

2002-09-19 Thread Bruce MacDonald

Our Exchange server crashed, and we are now running on a temporary server,
w/ manually created accounts.

Unfortunately, the new accounts are not the ones that created the OST
files, and therefore we cannot get at the information in them.  Stuff like
calendars and contacts are inaccessible until (and if) the backups can be
restored.

In the meantime, is there a tool MS or third-party, that can read an OST
file?

I tried renaming to to .pst in the hope that they used the same format,
but to no avail.

TIA


 
 

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Exchange 2000 : IM problem

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore

Hi,

We have two boxes of Exchange 2k installed on Win2K . Both are domain controllers in 
mixed mode with an NT 4 SP6a domain controller. 

I installed Instant Messenger service on both the Exchange servers and installed IM 
clients on all the client machines. 

The problem is while it works fine for few of the users (i.e. they are able to send 
and receive instant messages ) however there are other users on the same configuration 
it doesn't work (i.e. they are not able to receive messages from others, though they 
are able to send to those people who works fine) . Those who have problem for them 
even the status of the other users doesn't change in their IM. 

They are all able to log-in fine though.

I'm totally stuck now as I couldn't find any documentation on Microsoft's website. 
PLEASE some one help me . Any direction towards technicality of Exchange IM will help 
including directing me to some where I find some advance level technical information 
on Exchange IM as to where it keeps the user's logged-in information and how the 
server is routing messages .

I really will appreciate ANY HELP ...PLEASE 

Thanks
With Regards,

Kishore Gagrani
Director- Information Technology
PRICE Systems,L.L.C.
Phone: +1-856-608-7220
17000 Commerce Parkway
Suite A
Mt Laurel, NJ 08054
 

-Original Message-
From: Davy Rowland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem

Hi,

I've seen something similar with XP over VPN. Not just connecting to a mail
server, but also to file servers. It's all down to DNS, until we resolved
the issue, we could connect to anything using the IP address, however, using
the name alone didn't work.

Either you have a DNS problem, DNS on the XP client is incorrectly
configured, or the correct DNS settings are not filtering through your ISA
server. E2K loves DNS, we can't bodge through on WINS alone anymore :-)

Davy

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 14:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


I have seen weird behavior on Win98/Outlook 2000 clients where they would
not connect to Exchange server unless DNS was configured correctly on those
Win98 machines.

-Original Message-
From: Guy Swartwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


My setup:

Single box / Win2k Server (PDC), Exchange 2000, ISA and RAS.

All my users VPN into this box to connect Outlook 2000 to Exchange.

Currently all my users connect fine through VPN.

My XP users get server unavailable when they start Outlook. They can press
retry and sometimes after pressing it many times, it will actually connect.
My Win9x users do not have this problem. They press retry once and it is
connected. My Win2k users usually don't have the XP problem, they usually
only have the press the retry once.

Any Ideas?

Guy Swartwood

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RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore

Same Problem here after two retries it works fine. Never a problem on Win2k machines 
only with XP . I have upgraded all the  XP machines to SP1 this week  and at least one 
user tells me that  he didn't have to hit retry , don't know though if it just a 
coincidence . Yet to see the results from others after SP1 install . I'll post the 
results to this list once I have them all.



Kishore Gagrani

-Original Message-
From: Davy Rowland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem

Hi,

I've seen something similar with XP over VPN. Not just connecting to a mail
server, but also to file servers. It's all down to DNS, until we resolved
the issue, we could connect to anything using the IP address, however, using
the name alone didn't work.

Either you have a DNS problem, DNS on the XP client is incorrectly
configured, or the correct DNS settings are not filtering through your ISA
server. E2K loves DNS, we can't bodge through on WINS alone anymore :-)

Davy

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 14:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


I have seen weird behavior on Win98/Outlook 2000 clients where they would
not connect to Exchange server unless DNS was configured correctly on those
Win98 machines.

-Original Message-
From: Guy Swartwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


My setup:

Single box / Win2k Server (PDC), Exchange 2000, ISA and RAS.

All my users VPN into this box to connect Outlook 2000 to Exchange.

Currently all my users connect fine through VPN.

My XP users get server unavailable when they start Outlook. They can press
retry and sometimes after pressing it many times, it will actually connect.
My Win9x users do not have this problem. They press retry once and it is
connected. My Win2k users usually don't have the XP problem, they usually
only have the press the retry once.

Any Ideas?

Guy Swartwood

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Tools for Maintaining Active Directory

2002-09-19 Thread Bare, Ronald A.


We need to add a large number of names to the Active Directory for people
who do not have Windows or Exchange accounts, but who have mailboxes on
other email systems (unix, etc). We want them to be included in the GAL.

What programs or products are other people using to maintain the Active
Directory in an automated fashion for maintaining custom recipients? 

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Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Rama Arumugam

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster 
 
-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome! 

Thanks everyone!
rama



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FW: Exchange 2000 : IM problem

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore



I wonder my messages are going to the list 



-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:07 PM
To: 'Exchange Discussions'
Subject: Exchange 2000 : IM problem 

Hi,

We have two boxes of Exchange 2k installed on Win2K . Both are domain controllers in 
mixed mode with an NT 4 SP6a domain controller.

I installed Instant Messenger service on both the Exchange servers and installed IM 
clients on all the client machines.

The problem is while it works fine for few of the users (i.e. they are able to send 
and receive instant messages ) however there are other users on the same configuration 
it doesn't work (i.e. they are not able to receive messages from others, though they 
are able to send to those people who works fine) . Those who have problem for them 
even the status of the other users doesn't change in their IM.

They are all able to log-in fine though.

I'm totally stuck now as I couldn't find any documentation on Microsoft's website. 
PLEASE some one help me . Any direction towards technicality of Exchange IM will help 
including directing me to some where I find some advance level technical information 
on Exchange IM as to where it keeps the user's logged-in information and how the 
server is routing messages .

I really will appreciate ANY HELP ...PLEASE

Thanks
With Regards,

Kishore Gagrani
Director- Information Technology
PRICE Systems,L.L.C.
Phone: +1-856-608-7220
17000 Commerce Parkway
Suite A
Mt Laurel, NJ 08054


-Original Message-
From: Davy Rowland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem

Hi,

I've seen something similar with XP over VPN. Not just connecting to a mail
server, but also to file servers. It's all down to DNS, until we resolved
the issue, we could connect to anything using the IP address, however, using
the name alone didn't work.

Either you have a DNS problem, DNS on the XP client is incorrectly
configured, or the correct DNS settings are not filtering through your ISA
server. E2K loves DNS, we can't bodge through on WINS alone anymore :-)

Davy

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 September 2002 14:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


I have seen weird behavior on Win98/Outlook 2000 clients where they would
not connect to Exchange server unless DNS was configured correctly on those
Win98 machines.

-Original Message-
From: Guy Swartwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2000 - Exchange 2000 - VPN problem


My setup:

Single box / Win2k Server (PDC), Exchange 2000, ISA and RAS.

All my users VPN into this box to connect Outlook 2000 to Exchange.

Currently all my users connect fine through VPN.

My XP users get server unavailable when they start Outlook. They can press
retry and sometimes after pressing it many times, it will actually connect.
My Win9x users do not have this problem. They press retry once and it is
connected. My Win2k users usually don't have the XP problem, they usually
only have the press the retry once.

Any Ideas?

Guy Swartwood

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Restore

2002-09-19 Thread mikechange

Our exchange 2000 server crashed and I rebuilt it unfortunately the third
party backup package has screwed up. I have managed to re-configure and
setup it up again however obviously the mail that was there previously is
now gone.

I do have a copy of the old priv.edb and pub.edb which became currupt and
wish to setup a backup exchange standalone server. I have given it the
same org name etc as the production system. Is it possible to copy the
priv and pub files onto this backup server to retrieve some of the old
mailbox's?

Any help would be great.

Thanks

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Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Rama Arumugam

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails. Not only that, we were unable to find anything
on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what he received on his inbox from
Postmaster 
 
-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome! 

Thanks everyone!
rama

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527


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RE: Recovering data from client-side OST files

2002-09-19 Thread Bolser_Scott

http://www.officerecovery.com/exchange/

The utility I'm familiar with is called ost2pst which it looks like has
been bought by the above company.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recovering data from client-side OST files


Our Exchange server crashed, and we are now running on a temporary server,
w/ manually created accounts.

Unfortunately, the new accounts are not the ones that created the OST files,
and therefore we cannot get at the information in them.  Stuff like
calendars and contacts are inaccessible until (and if) the backups can be
restored.

In the meantime, is there a tool MS or third-party, that can read an OST
file?

I tried renaming to to .pst in the hope that they used the same format, but
to no avail.

TIA


 
 

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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail address . 
The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is relaying through your 
server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Rama Arumugam

How do I find out if some one is in fact relaying through our server?
Thanks!

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail
address . The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is
relaying through your server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore

Open telnet session to your exchange server and test it using mail to / mail from 
command. Lot of help on it also available on Microsoft KB , search for open relay.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

How do I find out if some one is in fact relaying through our server?
Thanks!

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail
address . The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is
relaying through your server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore


You may also use third party open relay testers over internet. There are many , just 
search for open relay in your google or yahoo .
-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Open telnet session to your exchange server and test it using mail to / mail from 
command. Lot of help on it also available on Microsoft KB , search for open relay.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

How do I find out if some one is in fact relaying through our server?
Thanks!

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail
address . The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is
relaying through your server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Rama Arumugam

What do you mean by someone else's machine or someone used my boss's email
address?  Do you mean some one on the internet has an email address (as an
alias may be??)that matches my boss's email address? Thanks!

Rama Arumugam

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Could also be klez virus (or variant) on someone else's machine as well
which used your boss' email address

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach


Open telnet session to your exchange server and test it using mail to / mail
from command. Lot of help on it also available on Microsoft KB , search for
open relay.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

How do I find out if some one is in fact relaying through our server?
Thanks!

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail
address . The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is
relaying through your server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier

It's Klez.  Don't worry about it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 09:28 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Exchange Security Breach
 Subject: Exchange Security Breach
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an 
 alert from Group Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was 
 blocked.  But he swears that he didn't send out any emails.  
 Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we were unable to 
 find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what 
 he received on his inbox from Postmaster 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
 The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Helvetica
 The attachment is the original mail
 **
 **
 *
 I just can't seem to find any information on this on the 
 internet. Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. 
 Could this be a Security breach? Is someone using my exchange 
 server? Has anyone received any messages like this before? 
 Please help. Any input is welcome! 
 
 Thanks everyone!
 rama
 
 
 
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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Rama Arumugam

What do you mean don't worry about? By the way we have NetShield and
GroupShield both running on our exchange server and we do block most of the
extensions (.exe,.vbs, etc.) from coming in. 

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

It's Klez.  Don't worry about it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 09:28 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Exchange Security Breach
 Subject: Exchange Security Breach
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an 
 alert from Group Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was 
 blocked.  But he swears that he didn't send out any emails.  
 Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we were unable to 
 find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what 
 he received on his inbox from Postmaster 
  
 -Original Message-
 From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
 The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Helvetica
 The attachment is the original mail
 **
 **
 *
 I just can't seem to find any information on this on the 
 internet. Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. 
 Could this be a Security breach? Is someone using my exchange 
 server? Has anyone received any messages like this before? 
 Please help. Any input is welcome! 
 
 Thanks everyone!
 rama
 
 
 
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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Gagrani, Kishore

No, I don't mean that. What I meant was its quite possible some one deliberately used 
your boss's e-mail address. SPAMERS do such a thing all the time.


-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

What do you mean by someone else's machine or someone used my boss's email
address?  Do you mean some one on the internet has an email address (as an
alias may be??)that matches my boss's email address? Thanks!

Rama Arumugam

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Could also be klez virus (or variant) on someone else's machine as well
which used your boss' email address

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach


Open telnet session to your exchange server and test it using mail to / mail
from command. Lot of help on it also available on Microsoft KB , search for
open relay.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

How do I find out if some one is in fact relaying through our server?
Thanks!

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

Simple : some one else over the internet sent out an e-mail using his e-mail
address . The bounced mail came to him.  Its also possible if some one is
relaying through your server.

-Original Message-
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Security Breach

Hello everyone,
One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an alert from Group
Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was blocked.  But he swears that he
didn't send out any emails.  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we
were unable to find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
he received on his inbox from Postmaster

-Original Message-
From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Helvetica
The attachment is the original mail

*
I just can't seem to find any information on this on the internet.
Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. Could this be a Security
breach? Is someone using my exchange server? Has anyone received any
messages like this before? Please help. Any input is welcome!

Thanks everyone!
rama



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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Moir

You could start by reading a description of what klez actually does, paying special 
attention to the bit about forging emails from totally innocent people who have 
nothing to do with the virus infection.

-Original Message- 
From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thu 19/09/2002 16:22 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach



What do you mean don't worry about? By the way we have NetShield and
GroupShield both running on our exchange server and we do block most of the
extensions (.exe,.vbs, etc.) from coming in.

Rama Arumugam
Network Administrator
Wire DynamiX.com
(253) 395-4527

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach

It's Klez.  Don't worry about it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 09:28 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Exchange Security Breach
 Subject: Exchange Security Breach


 Hello everyone,
 One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an
 alert from Group Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was
 blocked.  But he swears that he didn't send out any emails. 
 Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we were unable to
 find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what
 he received on his inbox from Postmaster
 
 -Original Message-
 From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
 The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Helvetica
 The attachment is the original mail
 **
 **
 *
 I just can't seem to find any information on this on the
 internet. Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for.
 Could this be a Security breach? Is someone using my exchange
 server? Has anyone received any messages like this before?
 Please help. Any input is welcome!

 Thanks everyone!
 rama



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RE: Hard Drive Utilization

2002-09-19 Thread Waters, Jeff

I don't, however that's not saying a lot because as a rule I will not use
any type of Ghost or H/D image for servers.  I am still from the old
school that a server should be built and installed from scratch each and
every time.  It's hard to teach an old dog a new trick.
Sorry


-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Hey you don't by chance know of anything that would Ghost these servers
would you.  Symantec and Server Image both say they wont work.  They said it
wouldn't work with Compaq's either but it does.  I know that it doesn't with
these though.

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Any time, I don't know if you have a server, or are going to be getting a
new one.  If you are getting a new one be sure to take a look at the EXP
line of expansion boxes.  I also know they are recreating the X line of
servers again, and of course they can't leave the good systems in place.
The 342 close to the one you have now, and has a good price.  The 350 is a
great system if you can still find one.  Also take a look at the
ServeRAID-4H card, it will double your Cache Memory, has a 266 over a 100
Microprocessor, and is a 4 channel card so you can have up to 4 independent
disk arms (always a good thing).
Happy Server Building!

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


Thanks for all of your information.  I think we are going to build a new
server the proper way and migrate everyone over.  I don't think that our CIO
would want to risk us doing a DR situation if we don't have to even if it
involves more work.  Reason being that we have been so busy that no one has
ever let us come up with a strategy.  This environment has been here for
about a year and a half and still no time for us to complete one.  That's a
whole nother story.  



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

If you are a single channel RAID5 yes.  You would need to crack open the box
and disconnect the NETBAY3 from the current channel and connect it to the
2nd channel on the controller.  This would break the established RAID.  Then
you would build the box from the ground up, starting with the IBM Raid CD so
you can recreate your drives.
If you do this I would recommend you do the OS/Log as a RAID1 (with 2
logical drives) and enroll the 3rd drive as a spare.  Then do the 2nd as a
RAID5.  
Think of it as a way to test your DR plans.  The good news is if you do it
this way and still don't get the performance you are looking for, when you
add the EXP you will only have to tell exchange to move your log files to
the new drives.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization


We have Netbay3. Am I going to have to rebuild the box to do all this?  

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hard Drive Utilization

Do you have the Netfinity NETBAY3 so that you can use up to 6 drives?  If
you don't, and you aren't using something like the EXP300 external bay then
you are physically limited to 3 drives and one arm.  If you have the NETBAY3
you can run up to 6 drives with 3 on each channel, or with all 6 on one
channel.  To go beyond that you are going to be looking at something like
the EXP300 or 500 expansion bays.
If you don't have the NETBAY3 I would get one, and then get the store on a
different arm/channel.
Here are your choices as I see them from the top of my head.
using a NETBAY3;
1 channel and 3 raid 1 drives, then you could do os, logs, and store on
separate drives however you are still going to take a performance hit
because they are all on the same channel.
2 channels
1- Raid1 drive and 2 logical drives on 1 channel for the OS and Logs
1- Raid1 drive with 1 logical drive for the store.
Not the optimum, however you will at least get your logs and store on
separate drive arms.  I had this for a couple of years and it worked fine.
Get yourself an EXP unit;
1-Raid 1 in the server for the OS
1-Raid 1 in the EXP for the logs
1-Raid 5 in the EXP for the stores
The EXP is a duel channel bus, this would put your OS, Logs and Store all on
separate channels and give you the best performance.

What I have done for our severs is run both the NETBAY3 and an EXP500, this
allows me to run two channels within the servers, and split the EXP between
two servers.


RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Robert Moir

You have to ask if theres a real business need for what they are doing, and if so you 
really have to support it. This is a management issue - if your users have a need to 
archive this mail properly (which PSTs don't meet due to their problems) then you have 
a need to upgrade to Ent. edition or invest in some other creative solution which will 
probably cost more.
 
It's not an easy choice but that choice has to be made - if your employers want to 
play on the grown up golf course they have to accept they'll have to pay grown up 
greens fees. Or they'll have to change the way they work.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thu 19/09/2002 15:58 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: *groan* PST Files



Much like Robert, it's an inherited policy that I've stumbled into the
sole reponsibilty of, and I'm cobbling bits of info together for a
guideline and policy docco to stamp some authority over it. It gets a bit
worrying though, when 8-10 people contantly use nearly a fifth of the
servers capacity.

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RE: Exchange Security Breach????

2002-09-19 Thread Tom Meunier

I mean, ignore it.  That's how Klez works.  So someone your boss knows
has Klez.  So what?  Someone my boss knows has rotten kids, but I don't
tell my boss she should take her kids to a child psychologist because of
it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:23 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Exchange Security Breach
 Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach
 
 
 What do you mean don't worry about? By the way we have 
 NetShield and GroupShield both running on our exchange server 
 and we do block most of the extensions (.exe,.vbs, etc.) from 
 coming in. 
 
 Rama Arumugam
 Network Administrator
 Wire DynamiX.com
 (253) 395-4527
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Security Breach
 
 It's Klez.  Don't worry about it.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rama Arumugam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 09:28 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Exchange Security Breach
  Subject: Exchange Security Breach
  
  
  Hello everyone,
  One of my users (unfortunately it's my Supervisor) got an
  alert from Group Shield saying that his attachment (.exe) was 
  blocked.  But he swears that he didn't send out any emails.  
  Couldn't argue with that. Not only that, we were unable to 
  find anything on his Sent Items folder either. Here is what 
  he received on his inbox from Postmaster 
   
  -Original Message-
  From: postmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  mailto:[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Undeliverable mail--Helvetica
  The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Helvetica
  The attachment is the original mail
  **
  **
  *
  I just can't seem to find any information on this on the
  internet. Helvetica is a font. That's all I've got so for. 
  Could this be a Security breach? Is someone using my exchange 
  server? Has anyone received any messages like this before? 
  Please help. Any input is welcome! 
  
  Thanks everyone!
  rama
  
  
  
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RE: SMTP connector and smart hosts

2002-09-19 Thread Wilson Varghese

Great, thanks.  Hmm I searched support with every word i could think of
and this Q did not show up..

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How did you set up Searching Public Folders?

2002-09-19 Thread John Strongosky

I've looked on Microsoft Knowledgebase and have found that you can't search
sub folders with Public Folders because they can be on different Servers.
Has any one an application or plug in that can do this?

john

 Remember 9/11

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Rules Wizard

2002-09-19 Thread Bashir Malekzada

Exchange 2000(SP3), Windows 2000 server(SP3).
The rule is to have the server reply with a certain subject.
it works internaly but the replies to external emails hangs in the
Categorizer.
Any thoughts?
Thanx.

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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Dupler, Craig

Hmm . . .
I think that several issues that should be thought of distinctly and
separate, have been muddled together here.
We have
- mail box size limits
- storage management
- .PST usage
- .OST usage
- budget and PHB management
- Data and information management 

I think you will do best, if you separate these from each other, and deal
with them as appropriate.  If it will help, I'll comment on a couple of
them, in a specific order.

Budget and PHB Management:  You need to have a yearly budget.  Part of it
has to be for your hardware.  That will include maintaining what you have,
and a program for upgrades that is tied to both your depreciation schedule
and your life cycle plan.  If your PHB has not required you to coordinate
these, or even draw up some of them, then you need to manage your PHB and
get them done and blessed.  You cannot survive without them.

Storage Management:  In a static organization (in terms of the total number
of users), as you replace hot spare spindles for your RAID system, each new
spindle should hit a budgeted price point.  Do this in targeted sizes, so
that you are auto-magically increasing your capacity over time.  You should
NEVER have to buy a larger array to get more storage for a finite
population, if you are doing a good job of managing what you have.

Mail Box Size:  Bigger is better - usually.  It is not IS's business to be
passing judgment on the business value of what your customers want to store,
nor how they want to organize it (except as noted below).  Your job is to
manage to your budget, and make sure that your budget is sized to your need.
Customer satisfaction is an element of service quality that you should be
measuring.  If you aren't, your policies have no validity - even if you
think they are about right.

Data and information management-  This has NOTHING (as in not one little
bit) to do with storage management.  If your organization wants to achieve a
state of managing your digital information and data, and the job has been
given to people that manage storage, then you will fail.  Data and
information management is a discipline of the library sciences.  If you
don't have someone with that kind of training who is providing requirements
to your storage management people, then all you have is useless chaos.  If
that is your situation, then your policies about capacity and limits are
capricious and without a foundation in the needs of the business.  But alas,
most IT shops are run this way.

.OST usage.  An .OST file is an Off-line STore.  Unfortunately, it is
limited to being a mirror of folders on your server that have been flagged
for offline availability.  As far as I know (hey, I make mistakes too),
there is no way to have a folder in an .OST that is not in the server store.
So, customer data that properly belongs in a personal store and not in your
enterprise message store, has to go someplace else.

.PST usage.  A .PST does those things that an .OST cannot.  Most (if not
all) of your customers will have message data that is either personal or
private, and which they feel is inappropriate to keep on one of your
servers.  The reasons for this are almost infinite, and usually consistent
with your business rules and guidelines (even if you think they aren't).  A
.PST is a terrible thing to use as a message delivery destination, but it is
an excellent Personal STore.  I think we would be better off, neither
Exchange nor Outlook were in the storage business.  It would be better to
have a general purpose DFS service in both client and server versions, and
simply have the ability to create special folders that were valid mail
destinations, but alas we are not yet there.  Someday.  So for now, we have
to deal with what we have.





-Original Message-
From: Exchange.ListServe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: *groan* PST Files


Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their email,
but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my company won't
pay
for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so there's no option IMO
other than educate the packrats, and set up an archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in the FAQ, but wonder what other folks in a
similar
situation would do, with regard to archiving. 

Currently our priv.edb is 13.9 GB, while the pub.edb is 226MB, so would
archiving
essential emails on Public folders be a reasonable idea?

Some of our client handlers need to keep archives for some of our clients,
in case 
of compliance issues.


Jon



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AD Exchange2K co-existence

2002-09-19 Thread Miller, Robert

All,

Quick question:

We are in the process of rolling out AD, and the Exchange2K upgrade will
immediately follow. We are planning on housing Exchange2K on the AD Domain
controller, and then retiring both the NT4.0 DC and Exchange 5.5 server
(management is all about server consolidation). 

1. Would it be wise to wait until AD is 100% deployed and stable before any
Exchange upgrades/migrations, or is it safe to do the projects in parallel?
2. If its best to wait for AD to be 100% deployed, would it be feasible to
at least get Exchange2K installed on the new AD DC's during the build - and
then when we are ready for the Exchange piece to commence all we have to do
is the actual migration???

Thanks,

  

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does this swink still work

2002-09-19 Thread Tener, Richard

I havent seen an email from the list in awhile.

Rich

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Organizing Public Folders

2002-09-19 Thread Kelley, Jason

We are planning to deploy public folders in our local site but we also
want to expand to our remote sites which include users who are overseas.


I'm curious as to how people organize their public folder hierarchy and
how they determine where a public folder is homed.

By region then by functional group? Or strictly by functional group
(even if that group spans sites)

Thanks - Jason




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It all started with a lie - Q313819

2002-09-19 Thread Moore, David K


So, I write this to test the waters and see how others have managed this issue -

For many years, going back to 4.0, we used CSV files to create/manage/delete mailboxes 
within Exchange and this worked well.  Then comes along Exchange 2000, which with it's 
integration of Active Directory and the requirement to use LDIFDE.  Ok, no problem I 
can learn new tools and I learn the silly new LDIF import format and I make it do what 
I want it to do - mailbox enable an existing AD account.  All is well until a few 
weeks following the mailbox enabling of the accounts, our users discover access to 
public folders (along with free/busy, off-line address book, etc) can not be had.  A 
call to Microsoft produces the answer that, the attribute of msExchUserAccountControl 
had not been properly populated into AD.  Microsoft writes a script for us that uses 
CDOEXM to re-set the permissions and while this does resolve the problem for existing 
users it doesn't resolve the on-going problems.  So, Microsoft transferred me between 
a few groups (it's hard I guess to know what is what when you've got half of your mail 
system managed by another non-communicative group - Active Directory support) where I 
landed with an LDIFDE support engineer.  This engineer then proceeded to explain that 
it was not possible to create mailbox enabled AD accounts with LDIFDE and pointed me 
to an article Q324353 [XADM: Users Cannot Access Public Folders or Delegate Mailboxes 
on a Separate Server] which states:  If you want to use LDIFDE/ADSI to create users, 
Microsoft recommends that you use LDIFDE/ADSI to create only the user accounts, and 
then use Active Directory Users and Computers to create the mailboxes. to which I 
replied that Microsoft does support it and the answer can be found in Q313819 - [HOW 
TO:  Create Mailbox-Enabled Account Using LDIFDE in Exchange 2000 Server] and after a 
bit of discussion Microsoft decided that it really sucks.  It all seems to boil down 
to the fact that no one knows how the encoding of msExchUserAccountControl is done (in 
PSS that is) and without the ability to set that attribute at creation time, the RUS 
does not properly setup the account and Microsoft has no intentions to support this, 
even with the Q article on how to do it.

So, my question?  Simple - has anyone managed to use LDIFDE to create and mailbox 
enable or just to mailbox enable an existing account in AD and had it work properly, 
namely the use of public folders?

I don't know about others that have a long history with Exchange but, do some of you 
feel that Exchange has made some real steps backward from the functionality that 
Exchange 5.5 had?  And a word of warning to those still on 5.5 - if it aint' broken, 
don't fix it.

Thanks,
david moore
Chevron Phillips Chemical


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RE: Organizing Public Folders

2002-09-19 Thread Dupler, Craig

Public folders, like shared file, should be organized in accordance with
your enterprise's master information management schema.

-Original Message-
From: Kelley, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Organizing Public Folders


We are planning to deploy public folders in our local site but we also
want to expand to our remote sites which include users who are overseas.


I'm curious as to how people organize their public folder hierarchy and
how they determine where a public folder is homed.

By region then by functional group? Or strictly by functional group
(even if that group spans sites)

Thanks - Jason




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RE: OOA questions

2002-09-19 Thread Moore, David K

It can be set programmatically with MAPI - here is a start:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q308281

By default OOF messages do not go to the internet, nor should they.

david

-Original Message-
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 September, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOA questions


Ok so a 3rd party tool is needed.

1- Maybe it's easy, but it's not a very efficient method. But thanks, I'll
check those sites.

2- OWA would work best when user is away and has no access to his/her
computer.
Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't turning off the auto-replies disables
generating auto-reply
and not the Out-of-Office messages and only to the Internet? 
This would have no effect on internal emails.

--Alex

-Original Message-
From: Morrison, Mike L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOA questions


1- Easiest way I can think of is send a message to al users and see which
one's send back Out of Office replies. If a tool exists, it's either at
www.cdolive.com, www.mail-resources.com [1], or www.slipstick.com.

2- OWA could be used, but it amounts to the same thing as logging into the
user's mailbox. You could turn off auto-replies to the internet at your IMS
[2] to block all of them.

Mike Morrison
Staff System Engineer
Fletcher Allen Health Care 

[1] No promotional fees were paid to the sender for this blatant plug. [3]
[2] Generally accepted as a Good Idea!
[3] Hi, Chris!

-Original Message-
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 4:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OOA questions


EX 55/SP4, NT4/SP6

1- Is there a way/tool to find out which mailboxes are setup with Out of
Office message
at any given time?

2- Is there  a way/tool to modify it (e.g. turn it off), right from the
Exchange Administrator and without having
to log in to user's mailbox? Can OWA be used to do this?


Thanks

--Alex


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RE: OWA 2000 Logon field..

2002-09-19 Thread Moore, David K

This could be done in matter of 2 hours with only one ASP page - just use 
response.redirect and some dropdowns on a form that points to itself and you are there.

david

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, 16 September, 2002 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 2000 Logon field..


I know a couple of talented developers who'd likely have time to work on
such a project after MEC.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA 2000 Logon field..
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I believe this has been asked before.  I searched through the 
 archives but I couldn't find it...
 
 Basically I need to have an OWA 5.5 style logon box so users 
 can enter their mailbox alias.  I need it because some users 
 have multiple mailboxes associated to them.
 
 I know I can use http://[exchange.ip]/exchange/[alias_name], 
 but the users won't remember.
 
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Andrea Coppini
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RE: It all started with a lie - Q313819

2002-09-19 Thread Hague, Jeff

I manage a network on a college campus and have to create 500+
accounts/mailboxes every fall. I also have to delete that many and I
have to do a whole lot of security group/distribution group management
and housekeeping as well. I used a heavily modified addusers.vbs this
term to create my accounts but found that it was much easier to go into
AD Users and Computers and create my mailboxes in bulk after the user
accounts were done. That is one of the very few things that you can
still do in bulk.
I have not had much time to play with it (maybe a week now) but I just
found a little toy called ADVantage from Javelina Software that has a
lot of Active Directory bulk modification features (it also does a lot
of reporting and management on Win2K ACLS). I don't see any Exch2K
features yet but it is version 1.0 so that may be forthcoming. I have
downloaded a 1 month trial version to play with and I am going to keep a
close eye on where they go with it because it could be extremely useful.

Jeff Hague
Network Manager
Randolph-Macon College

-Original Message-
From: Moore, David K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: It all started with a lie - Q313819


So, I write this to test the waters and see how others have managed this
issue -

For many years, going back to 4.0, we used CSV files to
create/manage/delete mailboxes within Exchange and this worked well.
Then comes along Exchange 2000, which with it's integration of Active
Directory and the requirement to use LDIFDE.  Ok, no problem I can learn
new tools and I learn the silly new LDIF import format and I make it do
what I want it to do - mailbox enable an existing AD account.  All is
well until a few weeks following the mailbox enabling of the accounts,
our users discover access to public folders (along with free/busy,
off-line address book, etc) can not be had.  A call to Microsoft
produces the answer that, the attribute of msExchUserAccountControl had
not been properly populated into AD.  Microsoft writes a script for us
that uses CDOEXM to re-set the permissions and while this does resolve
the problem for existing users it doesn't resolve the on-going problems.
So, Microsoft transferred me between a few groups (it's hard I guess to
know what is what when you've got half of your mail system managed by
another non-communicative group - Active Directory support) where I
landed with an LDIFDE support engineer.  This engineer then proceeded to
explain that it was not possible to create mailbox enabled AD accounts
with LDIFDE and pointed me to an article Q324353 [XADM: Users Cannot
Access Public Folders or Delegate Mailboxes on a Separate Server] which
states:  If you want to use LDIFDE/ADSI to create users, Microsoft
recommends that you use LDIFDE/ADSI to create only the user accounts,
and then use Active Directory Users and Computers to create the
mailboxes. to which I replied that Microsoft does support it and the
answer can be found in Q313819 - [HOW TO:  Create Mailbox-Enabled
Account Using LDIFDE in Exchange 2000 Server] and after a bit of
discussion Microsoft decided that it really sucks.  It all seems to
boil down to the fact that no one knows how the encoding of
msExchUserAccountControl is done (in PSS that is) and without the
ability to set that attribute at creation time, the RUS does not
properly setup the account and Microsoft has no intentions to support
this, even with the Q article on how to do it.

So, my question?  Simple - has anyone managed to use LDIFDE to create
and mailbox enable or just to mailbox enable an existing account in AD
and had it work properly, namely the use of public folders?

I don't know about others that have a long history with Exchange but, do
some of you feel that Exchange has made some real steps backward from
the functionality that Exchange 5.5 had?  And a word of warning to those
still on 5.5 - if it aint' broken, don't fix it.

Thanks,
david moore
Chevron Phillips Chemical


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Re: does this swink still work

2002-09-19 Thread Wilson Varghese

I haven't seen an email since Tuesday at 11:14AM either.

I had to go to the website.  

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RE: It all started with a lie - Q313819

2002-09-19 Thread MS Exchange List


Hello,

Yes, it does suck.  Toss all your cute Excel spreadsheets that made various account 
management tasks a snap.

We've moved to VB scripting for account creation/management.

Decrease personal discretionary spending, increase savings, and retire before the next 
big update.

Brent  

-Original Message-
From: Moore, David K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:17 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange List
Conversation: Test
Subject: It all started with a lie - Q313819



So, I write this to test the waters and see how others have managed this issue -

For many years, going back to 4.0, we used CSV files to create/manage/delete mailboxes 
within Exchange and this worked well.  Then comes along Exchange 2000, which with it's 
integration of Active Directory and the requirement to use LDIFDE.  Ok, no problem I 
can learn new tools and I learn the silly new LDIF import format and I make it do what 
I want it to do - mailbox enable an existing AD account.  All is well until a few 
weeks following the mailbox enabling of the accounts, our users discover access to 
public folders (along with free/busy, off-line address book, etc) can not be had.  A 
call to Microsoft produces the answer that, the attribute of msExchUserAccountControl 
had not been properly populated into AD.  Microsoft writes a script for us that uses 
CDOEXM to re-set the permissions and while this does resolve the problem for existing 
users it doesn't resolve the on-going problems.  So, Microsoft transferred me between 
a few groups (it's hard I guess to know what is what when you've got half of your mail 
system managed by another non-communicative group - Active Directory support) where I 
landed with an LDIFDE support engineer.  This engineer then proceeded to explain that 
it was not possible to create mailbox enabled AD accounts with LDIFDE and pointed me 
to an article Q324353 [XADM: Users Cannot Access Public Folders or Delegate Mailboxes 
on a Separate Server] which states:  If you want to use LDIFDE/ADSI to create users, 
Microsoft recommends that you use LDIFDE/ADSI to create only the user accounts, and 
then use Active Directory Users and Computers to create the mailboxes. to which I 
replied that Microsoft does support it and the answer can be found in Q313819 - [HOW 
TO:  Create Mailbox-Enabled Account Using LDIFDE in Exchange 2000 Server] and after a 
bit of discussion Microsoft decided that it really sucks.  It all seems to boil down 
to the fact that no one knows how the encoding of msExchUserAccountControl is done (in 
PSS that is) and without the ability to set that attribute at creation time, the RUS 
does not properly setup the account and Microsoft has no intentions to support this, 
even with the Q article on how to do it.

So, my question?  Simple - has anyone managed to use LDIFDE to create and mailbox 
enable or just to mailbox enable an existing account in AD and had it work properly, 
namely the use of public folders?

I don't know about others that have a long history with Exchange but, do some of you 
feel that Exchange has made some real steps backward from the functionality that 
Exchange 5.5 had?  And a word of warning to those still on 5.5 - if it aint' broken, 
don't fix it.

Thanks,
david moore
Chevron Phillips Chemical


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RE: *groan* PST Files

2002-09-19 Thread Ed Crowley

Give away a generous mailbox quota.  Institute a nominal charge for
larger quotas.  If a manager has to approve a charge, even a small
charge, the manager has to decide whether there is business value.  It's
best when the customer decides what qualifies as business value instead
of the service provider.

Edgar J. Crowley Jr.
Technical Consultant
Windows  Messaging Platforms Practice
hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: *groan* PST Files


Hmm . . .
I think that several issues that should be thought of distinctly and
separate, have been muddled together here. We have
- mail box size limits
- storage management
- .PST usage
- .OST usage
- budget and PHB management
- Data and information management 

I think you will do best, if you separate these from each other, and
deal with them as appropriate.  If it will help, I'll comment on a
couple of them, in a specific order.

Budget and PHB Management:  You need to have a yearly budget.  Part of
it has to be for your hardware.  That will include maintaining what you
have, and a program for upgrades that is tied to both your depreciation
schedule and your life cycle plan.  If your PHB has not required you to
coordinate these, or even draw up some of them, then you need to manage
your PHB and get them done and blessed.  You cannot survive without
them.

Storage Management:  In a static organization (in terms of the total
number of users), as you replace hot spare spindles for your RAID
system, each new spindle should hit a budgeted price point.  Do this in
targeted sizes, so that you are auto-magically increasing your capacity
over time.  You should NEVER have to buy a larger array to get more
storage for a finite population, if you are doing a good job of managing
what you have.

Mail Box Size:  Bigger is better - usually.  It is not IS's business to
be passing judgment on the business value of what your customers want to
store, nor how they want to organize it (except as noted below).  Your
job is to manage to your budget, and make sure that your budget is sized
to your need. Customer satisfaction is an element of service quality
that you should be measuring.  If you aren't, your policies have no
validity - even if you think they are about right.

Data and information management-  This has NOTHING (as in not one little
bit) to do with storage management.  If your organization wants to
achieve a state of managing your digital information and data, and the
job has been given to people that manage storage, then you will fail.
Data and information management is a discipline of the library sciences.
If you don't have someone with that kind of training who is providing
requirements to your storage management people, then all you have is
useless chaos.  If that is your situation, then your policies about
capacity and limits are capricious and without a foundation in the needs
of the business.  But alas, most IT shops are run this way.

.OST usage.  An .OST file is an Off-line STore.  Unfortunately, it is
limited to being a mirror of folders on your server that have been
flagged for offline availability.  As far as I know (hey, I make
mistakes too), there is no way to have a folder in an .OST that is not
in the server store. So, customer data that properly belongs in a
personal store and not in your enterprise message store, has to go
someplace else.

.PST usage.  A .PST does those things that an .OST cannot.  Most (if not
all) of your customers will have message data that is either personal or
private, and which they feel is inappropriate to keep on one of your
servers.  The reasons for this are almost infinite, and usually
consistent with your business rules and guidelines (even if you think
they aren't).  A .PST is a terrible thing to use as a message delivery
destination, but it is an excellent Personal STore.  I think we would be
better off, neither Exchange nor Outlook were in the storage business.
It would be better to have a general purpose DFS service in both client
and server versions, and simply have the ability to create special
folders that were valid mail destinations, but alas we are not yet
there.  Someday.  So for now, we have to deal with what we have.





-Original Message-
From: Exchange.ListServe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: *groan* PST Files


Hi.

Standard Version of EX5.5, SP4. 200+ users.

We are looking at educating users in not storing everything in their
email, but storing in either a .pst or .ost. Money is an issue, my
company won't pay for us to upgrade to 5.5 Enterprise or Exchange 2K, so
there's no option IMO other than educate the packrats, and set up an
archiving solution.

I've also read the arguments in 

RE: Are Deleted Items Logged?..etc

2002-09-19 Thread Ed Crowley

Of course it is logged in the transaction log, but I know of no way to
make any use of that fact.

Edgar J. Crowley Jr.
Technical Consultant
Windows  Messaging Platforms Practice
hp Services
*510-612-3365
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Are Deleted Items Logged?..etc


Q: 
When a user delete's items in OL/Exch does the Exchange system log this
action?  
Does it log that fact that a user would then empty the deleted items?
Does it log the fact that the items where recovered from the retention?
What log's might I look at for this info?

Exch55sp4 NT4sp6a

Yes..issue in management...

thanks
bill



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RE: AD Exchange2K co-existence

2002-09-19 Thread Ed Crowley

1.  Depends on what 100% means.  I'd want all users migrated before
starting Exchange, but it isn't necessary that every file server be
moved.

2.  I don't like putting Exchange on domain controllers.  It makes
disaster recovery, future migraton, and maintenance more difficult.  You
should have at least three domain controllers if your organization is
any size, too.

Edgar J. Crowley Jr.
Technical Consultant
Windows  Messaging Platforms Practice
hp Services
*510-612-3365
*[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Miller, Robert
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AD  Exchange2K co-existence


All,

Quick question:

We are in the process of rolling out AD, and the Exchange2K upgrade will
immediately follow. We are planning on housing Exchange2K on the AD
Domain controller, and then retiring both the NT4.0 DC and Exchange 5.5
server (management is all about server consolidation). 

1. Would it be wise to wait until AD is 100% deployed and stable before
any Exchange upgrades/migrations, or is it safe to do the projects in
parallel? 2. If its best to wait for AD to be 100% deployed, would it be
feasible to at least get Exchange2K installed on the new AD DC's during
the build - and then when we are ready for the Exchange piece to
commence all we have to do is the actual migration???

Thanks,

  

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RE: Organizing Public Folders

2002-09-19 Thread Ed Crowley

It would really depend on your organization.  Also, it doesn't make
sense to replicate content to remote sites that won't use it.

Edgar J. Crowley Jr.
Technical Consultant
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hp Services
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kelley, Jason
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Organizing Public Folders


We are planning to deploy public folders in our local site but we also
want to expand to our remote sites which include users who are overseas.


I'm curious as to how people organize their public folder hierarchy and
how they determine where a public folder is homed.

By region then by functional group? Or strictly by functional group
(even if that group spans sites)

Thanks - Jason




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