Outlook Address Book - Email Address Book for an Additional Mailbox
Hello Is there a way to make the Contacts folders of a mailbox other than my principal mailbox show as email address book? If I an additional mailbox to the list of mailboxes I can view (under the Advanced Properties of Exchange Server Service), then I right-click the Contacts folder in that mailbox, the tab Outlook Address Book does not show in the Properties of that folder. Is there a workaround? Best Regards Nizar El-Assaad _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
store memory leak
All, Environment: NT4 Server with service pack 6 Exchange 5.5 with service pack 3 Groupshield 5 sp 1 Legato 5.5.2 client Legato Exchange module version 2 I have just moved my exchange server over to new hardware. The server is working fine, but first noticed in my event viewer that the Legato exchange module could not initialize any shared memory. I then noticed in my task manager that the memory taken up by the STORE is slowly increasing and is now at 1.5 Gb in size. The only difference between this environment and the old server is the improvement in hardware and also I have upgraded to the new Groupshield software. Does anybody have any ideas on what could be the problem. I am going to service pack again and see what happens. Thanks, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange alias naming
Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue Update to this issue. I only have two rules for my rules wizard to follow. One is for this mailing list and the other is for another mailing list. Both are set the exact same way. I noticed that the first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and does not leave behind a copy. It does not matter which of the two rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly always occurs. Any ideas? Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and move message rules? Thanks. Damian -- -- --- I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) Exchange 2000 The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when it happens. Am I missing something? Thanks Damian _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Can anyone recomend a good networking list
The two others worth looking at in that space would be Foundry Networks (http://www.foundrynetworks.com) and Extreme Networks (http://www.extremenetworks.com). Some might recommend Enterasys (http://www.enterasys.com) as well (used to be Cabletron) as well. They haven't, IMO, kept up with the others in technology. I'd completely concur, however, that the 3Com gear should go. We ditched ours a year and a half ago (in favor of Cisco) and haven't looked back. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Can anyone recomend a good networking list RMCs campus is 1500 (1000 belong to students) machines in 40+ buildings wired with fiber and copper. There is 1 main distribution point where the servers and routers are. When I took over a year ago the entire campus was 3Com. A 3Com layer3 switch for routing and 3Com layer 2 switches and hubs for distribution. I added a low cost 3Com layer3 switch to separate the admin network from the residential network but I am kind of unhappy with it. I am looking for a good modular layer 3 4 switch with GB copper and 100BaseFX fiber capability. So far I have spec'd out the HP Procurve 5300 series and as soon as I have 10 or 12 hours to figure out all the parts, I want to look into Cisco's offerings. I think Cisco will be far more expensive than I can afford though. I was wondering if anyone can share experience with HP's gear and their service. I am also hoping that I can get some recommendations on other manufacturers who have this type of gear. The only ones I know of in this area are 3Com, HP and Cisco but I know there must be others. Thanks! Jeff Hague -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Can anyone recomend a good networking list This list isn't too bad for that, what kind of questions do you have. I can also point you to a couple of folks who also run campus networks that you could interface with... -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Can anyone recomend a good networking list I am re-engineering my campus network and need user opinions on networking gear. Does anyone know of a good list like this one that deals with routers switches, etc? Jeff Hague _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3 IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K
Correct. Think about it - POP3 and IMAP4 are mail RETREIVAL protocols. They don't deal with sending mail, just receiving. For sending, you need to use SMTP. SMTP doesn't care about mailbox limits for send - nor should it. That's not the use for which it was designed. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Fay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 5:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: POP3 IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K Your message implies that this feature did NOT work on 5.5 for POP IMAP clients? They used the IS for their protocols, please explain your answer. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: POP3 IMAP Prohibit Send on E2K As far as I know, its still true for E2k - as it was for 5.5. -- Original Message -- From: Fay, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:09:50 -0500 Is this KB Article still on point, 247126? It's dated 4/11/01 and only refers to E2K with no SP. I am deploying a 3,000 student E2K SP3 server with POP and IMAP only clients with MB limits. Obviously this will go BUST on me and I need to change the design for OWA only, MAPI won't be supported. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247126 The summary of the article is POP3 and IMAP clients don't use the IS as previous versions of Exchange did for sending, since now SMTP is separated. Therefore they bypass the prohibit send feature if the Mailbox is over its limit. Regards, Mark FAY CONSULTING, LLC E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disaster recovery in a different city
Failover in such a scenario is likely a bit more complicated than simply tossing out a new host entry or two. What are you using now to specify the target server in your x.400 connections? Are users going to be testing this failover too by connecting to the alternate Exchange server? The failover steps required could be further complicated by your underlying network routing topology. Your IMC represents a critical SPOF, what's the plan for providing redundancy there? With a single hub, what happens when the hub site is the one effected by a disaster? All 16 sites now become islands until the restoration SLA is met for that hub site. The best way to find out what is going to be required to really pull this off is to test it (lots)... Either in a lab or with a non production organization on your production network. -- Chris Scharff, MVP-Exchange MessageOne Emergency Messaging System: http://www.messageone.com/EMS.asp Free Custom OWA Screens:http://www.messageone.com/m1owa/index.asp On 1/20/03 0:13, Microsoft Exchange List Server [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSX55+SP4 1MSX Organization 16sites X400 connectors +1 IMC Hi All, We have 15 sites connected to a central hub via X400 connectors the central hub has IMC to send/receive messages to/from Internet. We want to propose a solution to have replace any of the sites in case of disaster in the area where the site is (consider that the server is lost). We should use just the tape backups from the site, we can build a similar server in a remote location, same name and in same domain. Our question is how can we do rehearsal of this proposal? Should we remove the existent and operational site and replace it with our restored-server (send receive some messages)? Are we going to introduce host entries at that moment? Then we need to switch back to the original server..does anybody have this reharse before? Rgds, -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: store memory leak
The store will use as much memory as it can get its hands on. Did you run the Exchange Optimizer AFTER you had gotten everything moved over and finished? I would recommend you do if you haven't yet. -Original Message- From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: store memory leak Importance: High All, Environment: NT4 Server with service pack 6 Exchange 5.5 with service pack 3 Groupshield 5 sp 1 Legato 5.5.2 client Legato Exchange module version 2 I have just moved my exchange server over to new hardware. The server is working fine, but first noticed in my event viewer that the Legato exchange module could not initialize any shared memory. I then noticed in my task manager that the memory taken up by the STORE is slowly increasing and is now at 1.5 Gb in size. The only difference between this environment and the old server is the improvement in hardware and also I have upgraded to the new Groupshield software. Does anybody have any ideas on what could be the problem. I am going to service pack again and see what happens. Thanks, Didy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Email Addresses
Slipstick has started selling baseball bats? On 1/20/03 4:12, Mark Harford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's probably something at Slipstick that'll help. http://www.slipstick.com/addins/mail.htm Mark -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 20 January 2003 06:04 Posted To: Exchange 55 list server Conversation: Email Addresses Subject: RE: Email Addresses Duh. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Addresses Hi. Using outlook XP, I have put two internet address in the bcc field. When they get the email they see nothing in the To: field. So? Mark. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 22:06 Subject: RE: Email Addresses Internet recipients will. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Addresses each recipient only sees the email as if it was sent directly to them (as an individual). with bcc, the recipient wont see his name in the to: field. - Original Message - From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Email Addresses Bcc. -Original Message- From: Tim John - Domainz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Email Addresses Hi all, My CEO recently sent an email to a number of customers. We created a DL containing the email addresses from contact details that we have and the DL was the basis for the 'To' part of the email. We have had several replies from customers expressing some concern that everyone's email address on the list was transmitted in the email. For example, if I sent an email to a DL that contained Paul, Peter and Steve, it would be received by each, with Pauls, Peters and Steves email details visible. How can I configure a DL so that when an email is sent to a number of addresses, each recipient only sees the email as if it was sent directly to them (as an individual). Any advice would be well received. Thanks Tim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in
Re: Exchange alias naming
I always specify the full domain/id/alias in POP3 and IMAP even if the nt_id and mailbox alias match. I've found it impossible to train help desk monkeys in exceptions. They understand I before E just fine, but throw in the conditional except after C or heaven forbid and sometimes Y and suddenly cats and dogs are living together, the sky is on fire and Hanji has asked an intelligent question. %username% just helps with name resolution right, there are a number of attributes which can be used for name resolution and you could populate one of those with the same information. But, I don't argue with such things normally, if $way is the way I want to do things and I have what I feel is a good reason to do it, I generally just do it. I don't get caught up in minor implementation details with customers where it doesn't have any real effect on the final product they are getting. On 1/20/03 5:31, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Users must login twice to OWA
I once saw this - being prompted for every graphic in OWA. That was a result of deliberately applying service pack to the back-end before upgrading the front-ends (just wanted to see what would happen) -Original Message- From: Jason Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA Yeah we had to set it on manually, on one server before we made the change we were actually getting prompted for each graphic coming from the Virtual Directory (just seemed to be an oddity) however setting it the same as the other servers seemed to cure it. We didn't modify any NTFS permissions at all - just the Virtual Directory. HTH Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clishe, Jason Sent: 17 January 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA I have set the default domain on the Exchange and Public virtual directories. My Exchweb virtual directory does not have Basic Authentication selected, so therefore I can't set the default domain on it. Did you have to go in and manually enable Basic Authentication on the Exchweb virtual directory? Did you have to modify any NTFS permissions on any of the associated directories? Jason -Original Message- From: Jason Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA We had exactly the same problem in our environement and I found the same so we added the default domain on the following virtual directories folders: Exchange Exchweb and the Public Folders Virtual Directory And that seemed to resolve the issue. HTH Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clishe, Jason Sent: 17 January 2003 18:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Users must login twice to OWA Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3. This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA, they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their credentials the second time, OWA works fine. Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users still must login twice. I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests. Any idea's? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Is the sync setup to allow all appts? Rather than either flag a conflict or let Outlook (or BB) win? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Sync -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors
Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Be sure you have the CDO hotfix for Exchange installed. Is this happening to everyone or one user? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Sync -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Thin Clients
What applications? My take is that Terminal Services works best for one server running one application and accessed by many users. For the car rental application of 5,000 users all using one application - that is a good approach. But for normal professional workers, who typically use 5 or 6 applications that need to be integrated together in some form or another, then you don't get the savings that you might otherwise look for. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 23:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Thin Clients I'm curious to find out about large organizations that either are already or are thinking seriously about switching a significant portion of their PC base to thin clients )probably Citrix based). If you done this, how is it going? What are your top five recommendations? What are the top five items on your wish list? If you are seriously thinking about doing this, when do you think you will start moving? As a footnote, we have enough licenses for about 15% of the company and are thinking seriously about making a much bigger move in this direction starting in about a year. So far, I can see some interesting conflicts with Security, VoIP and NetMeeting. So far the hottest button on my wish list would be for a range of PocketPC devices (lots of form factors) that were both good VoIP phones (Cisco SIP) and with Pocket Office applets that worked one heck of a lot better with big Office on Citrix. I get really annoyed with that PC Companion paradigm. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
I believe it is one user. How do I get the CDO hot fix for Exchange? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Be sure you have the CDO hotfix for Exchange installed. Is this happening to everyone or one user? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Sync -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
http://www.blackberry.net/support/faqs/enterprise/installation/index.shtml#q 8 So are the double appointments just on the BB or in his OL calendar as well? Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Microsoft Exchange MVP Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 Microsoft is my shepherd, I shall not stray. It leadeth me to Where I Want To Go Today. -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY I believe it is one user. How do I get the CDO hot fix for Exchange? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Be sure you have the CDO hotfix for Exchange installed. Is this happening to everyone or one user? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Sync -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Outlook XP doubles. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY http://www.blackberry.net/support/faqs/enterprise/installation/index.shtml#q 8 So are the double appointments just on the BB or in his OL calendar as well? Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Microsoft Exchange MVP Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 Microsoft is my shepherd, I shall not stray. It leadeth me to Where I Want To Go Today. -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY I believe it is one user. How do I get the CDO hot fix for Exchange? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Be sure you have the CDO hotfix for Exchange installed. Is this happening to everyone or one user? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Sync -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
turn off NDRs -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors - my reason
Try looking for Hosted Exchange on Microsoft e.g. http://www.microsoft.com/serviceproviders/whitepapers/exchange.asp Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GAL / OWA MSX55
Messageware has just released a version of their Plus Pack for OWA 5.5. This is one of the features included in the product. Other features include: Spell Check Signatures Outlook-Style Addressing Personal Distribution Lists Feel free to contact me offline for more information. Matthew Seon Tel. 905-812-0638 Ext. 115 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange List Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: GAL / OWA MSX55 MSX55 +SP4 Hi all, Does anybody know a software to allow OWA users to see the GAL? Rgds, -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
312269 It's a known problem. Call Microsoft and reference the article number. It's a non-dec call since it's just a hotfix. Install it on the BES and the problem goes away. -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3Connector s
There are still better ways to solve that scenario IMHO. On 1/20/03 8:55, Ken Cornetet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3Connector s - my reason
I think I suggested NDRs generated by a 3rd neutral party, which is a fsckload better idea than implementing POP3 connectors for customers. I'm glad I'm working from home today because the string of obscenities which I just uttered caused the dog to go hide under the bed. Boggles the mind it does. On 1/20/03 9:46, Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the responses. I posted earlier last week about my need to host 2 separate companies on one Exchange box, and an absolute requirement is that customers of each company could not know that the 2 companies physically resided under the same roof with the same management. One problem to this scenario is that NDR's for both companies would be generated by the same address, and it would give them away. I haven't found a solution to the NDR issue, and no one on this list has, either. Which leads me to the POP3 scenario Currently one of the companies, which has less than 20 users, uses an external mail hosting company and they POP their mail. The other company uses the internal Exchange 2000 box. Since we can't seem to find a solution to house both companies' mail on the same box and still retain anonimity, we were thinking that a possible solution is to install a POP3 connector on the Exchange box to POP the external mail. That accomplishes several tasks: - Anonimity is retained, since NDR's would still come from the external hosting company. - All internal mail clients could be setup the same way; no need for some POP clients and some MAPI clients. - All mail is now being AV scanned. Whatd'ya think? Does my scenario make sense for using a POP3 connector? Jason -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue Update to this issue. I only have two rules for my rules wizard to follow. One is for this mailing list and the other is for another mailing list. Both are set the exact same way. I noticed that the first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and does not leave behind a copy. It does not matter which of the two rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly always occurs. Any ideas? Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and move message rules? Thanks. Damian -- -- --- I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) Exchange 2000 The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when it happens. Am I missing something? Thanks Damian _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Exchange alias naming
Some migration tools depend on it being that way for interorganizational moves, i.e., the alias being the same as the SAM account name. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange alias naming Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue Update to this issue. I only have two rules for my rules wizard to follow. One is for this mailing list and the other is for another mailing list. Both are set the exact same way. I noticed that the first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and does not leave behind a copy. It does not matter which of the two rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly always occurs. Any ideas? Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and move message rules? Thanks. Damian -- -- --- I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches certain criteria in the
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue Update to this issue. I only have two rules for my rules wizard to follow. One is for this mailing list and the other is for another mailing list. Both are set the exact same way. I noticed that the first rule in the list copies the
Re: Rules Wizard Issue
Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
I use Outlook. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Re: Exchange alias naming
It's fairly trivial to make them the same if that becomes a requirement no? On 1/20/03 12:24, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some migration tools depend on it being that way for interorganizational moves, i.e., the alias being the same as the SAM account name. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange alias naming Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors
One of my customers thought they were smart and bought Popbeamer. They got a fixed IP and everything needed to use SMTP e-mail.. Popbeamear seems to work pretty well for them. No reports of lost email.. Before MS came with their own POP3 connector for NT SBS there was a product from (IIRC) Examplar software who created a POP3 connector for Exchange. That was a well known and pretty good product.. Don't even know if those guys still exist.. --B. At 09:55 20-01-2003 -0500, you wrote: Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
Why would Ed be using Outlook Express to access your Hotmail account? ;o) The 32k limit server-side is for MAPI access to Exchange. A client can not see how much room his rules take up, but I regularly get 26-34 rules to fit. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues. I am assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to think. Thanks for the 'help'. Damian -Original Message-
Re: Rules Wizard Issue
What are you, an ex English major? Thanks for amount of rules based on size. Never did know a guess for that number. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Why would Ed be using Outlook Express to access your Hotmail account? ;o) The 32k limit server-side is for MAPI access to Exchange. A client can not see how much room his rules take up, but I regularly get 26-34 rules to fit. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO issues. If you have any more constructive feedback I'd like to hear it. Thanks. Damian -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From:
Re: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3Connector s
Microsoft didn't come with their own POP3 connector, they bought/licensed someone else's. Whose is an exercise to the reader, but POP3 connectors in general are still limited technological solutions with a number of holes based on what it is they are trying to achieve. On 1/20/03 13:36, B. van Ouwerkerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my customers thought they were smart and bought Popbeamer. They got a fixed IP and everything needed to use SMTP e-mail.. Popbeamear seems to work pretty well for them. No reports of lost email.. Before MS came with their own POP3 connector for NT SBS there was a product from (IIRC) Examplar software who created a POP3 connector for Exchange. That was a well known and pretty good product.. Don't even know if those guys still exist.. --B. At 09:55 20-01-2003 -0500, you wrote: Oh goodness, I hope you have asbestos undies on! POP3 connectors are generally considered the spawn of Satan in these circles. Don't let the flames get you down, there are limited cases where a POP3 connector can work well (such as mine: one-to-one mailboxes, no fixed IP address). I don't think there is any legal or supported way to get SBS's POP3 connector, and even if there was, you wouldn't want it. It apparently doesn't undergo any QA testing at Microsoft (Latest SBS SP fixes a bug in the POP3 connecter that causes random people to start completely LOSING their POP3 mail if you have more than 10 POP3 connections defined. Of course, one of those random people would have to be the president of the company that I put SBS in... ) That said, there are various POP3 connectors out there, most widely used of which is probably fetchmail. Do a search on fetchmail and win32, and you will find various win32 ports - I even remember seeing one that ran as a service. If you aren't afraid to write some code, Perl has modules for the POP3 and SMTP parts of the problem. If SP3 doesn't straighten out my client's POP3, I'm going to write a custom perl program to do the job. -Original Message- From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need recommendation for 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 Connectors Does anyone have any experience with any of the 3rd party Exchange 2000 POP3 connectors? Or better yet, is there a way to install the SBS POP3 Connector on a non-SBS box? J a s o n C l i s h e Senior Network Engineer Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (248) 371-3542 Mobile: (248) 891-8780 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rules Wizard Issue
OK Time for you to go on the next edition of Star Search. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue No, I haven't been in the military anywhere. RPC packets are pretty small. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions What are you, an ex English major? Thanks for amount of rules based on size. Never did know a guess for that number. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Why would Ed be using Outlook Express to access your Hotmail account? ;o) The 32k limit server-side is for MAPI access to Exchange. A client can not see how much room his rules take up, but I regularly get 26-34 rules to fit. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Same here, except that they sometimes don't fire, or two of the rules come in conflict, a problem I believe I have fixed through a rule modification. However, I use rules primarily through my personal POP mail, not through Exchange Server. I don't find much need for them in my work. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I figured by using the term software product that you meant commercial software. If I could find someone to buy my Hello World applications, I would be a happy man. Also, I have 15 move email rules for various lists and spam filtering in Outlook 2002 and they work with no problems whatsoever. -Mike http://www.uselessthoughts.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue I guess I should have qualified that as commercial software. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue SO you've never managed to completely debug the requsisit Hello World applications you've written in the 15 or so languages you've used? I'm shocked! Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 12:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue In 23-plus years of programming and computer infrastructure experience I've never seen a software product that was completely free of bugs. Period. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scoles, Damian Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Roger, Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the EXACT description of the rules. The rule is set to move the email. Not make a copy. As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's products since DOS 2.0 It's a bug as I've said before And it's definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in Outlook 2000 with NO
RE: Rules Wizard Issue
A TV show on astronomy? Neat! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions OK Time for you to go on the next edition of Star Search. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue No, I haven't been in the military anywhere. RPC packets are pretty small. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions What are you, an ex English major? Thanks for amount of rules based on size. Never did know a guess for that number. - Original Message - From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue Why would Ed be using Outlook Express to access your Hotmail account? ;o) The 32k limit server-side is for MAPI access to Exchange. A client can not see how much room his rules take up, but I regularly get 26-34 rules to fit. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Curious. If your using rules on say Outlook Express to access say my personal email account on Hotmail, are you limited by the same sizing 32K I believe it is on a MAPI client to Exchange? Also is there a way to see what your rules sizes are? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange 2000 and IBM's FAStT SAN
Exchange 2000 SP3 Windows 2000 Advanced Server SP3 Trend Micro Scanmail 6.x LUN 1 = Storage Group 1, 8 Disks Raid 10, 136GB LUN 2 = Transaction Logs for SG1, 2 Disks Mirrored, 36GB LUN 3 = Storage Group 2, 8 Disks Raid 10, 136GB LUN 4 = Transaction Logs for SG2, 2 Disks Mirrored, 36GB While monitoring the Physical Disk - Disk Queue Length for all 4 LUNS I noticed that on LUN 1 my Queue Length peaks at 100 - 150 periodically and averages about 10. Is this normal? I only have 10 users on this server at this time and am scheduled to migrate another 700 over this weekend. The 10 users have not complained about performance but I always thought that the Disk Queue Length should never exceed 1 per disk. Any thoughts? Anyone else using the FAStT SAN solution? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Full Exchange Server restore query
Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Full Exchange Server restore query
To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange alias naming
Of course. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming It's fairly trivial to make them the same if that becomes a requirement no? On 1/20/03 12:24, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some migration tools depend on it being that way for interorganizational moves, i.e., the alias being the same as the SAM account name. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange alias naming Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Full Exchange Server restore query
I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Full Exchange Server restore query
Just do this http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm -Original Message- From: Steven Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Full Exchange Server restore query
Do you really need to keep the same name? Are you sure? Are you really sure? For this type of restore I don't see the need to do anything off network. Shut down the old server, restore to the new server, fix whatever is still broke. [1] But I try my darndest to never have to actually do that and use the ECMSM instead if at all possible. [1] More or less. On 1/20/03 16:44, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange alias naming
Just checking. ;) Makes one wonder why the $descriptor migration software can't key off of any field the admin chooses. On 1/20/03 16:26, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming It's fairly trivial to make them the same if that becomes a requirement no? On 1/20/03 12:24, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some migration tools depend on it being that way for interorganizational moves, i.e., the alias being the same as the SAM account name. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange alias naming Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Full Exchange Server restore query
Well, considering all circumstances, I suppose there is no real need to keep the Server name the same, the only reason I said we need to is that I read a KB article Q177635 which said that to restore the dir.edb, it's Windows NT Name specific thus can only be restored to a server with the same name. I may have misunderstood this but I am willing to learn. And also, what is ECMSM? I am actually a Lotus Domino Admin, but am learning exchange as I go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: 20 January 2003 23:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Full Exchange Server restore query Do you really need to keep the same name? Are you sure? Are you really sure? For this type of restore I don't see the need to do anything off network. Shut down the old server, restore to the new server, fix whatever is still broke. [1] But I try my darndest to never have to actually do that and use the ECMSM instead if at all possible. [1] More or less. On 1/20/03 16:44, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange alias naming
The one I'm working with just now uses that or SID history. I think you can use a mapping table as well but the alias field works for us. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming Just checking. ;) Makes one wonder why the $descriptor migration software can't key off of any field the admin chooses. On 1/20/03 16:26, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming It's fairly trivial to make them the same if that becomes a requirement no? On 1/20/03 12:24, Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some migration tools depend on it being that way for interorganizational moves, i.e., the alias being the same as the SAM account name. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange alias naming Thanks for the reply Chris, Well posting this message was useful in that it has questioned possibly a long held belief. I have always made the alias for my Exchange deployments the same as the NT user ID because I am sure someone in the past told me this was Microsoft's recommendation, maybe I should have questioned this more. Anyway the reasons I continue to use this is if you are using POP3 or IMAP you don't have to provide all the domain\ntuser id\alias information you can just use alias because it is the same as NT user id. Secondly, when creating an MST file for an Office role out you can use the environment variable %username% to create the Outlook profile. Finally, your users only have to remember their NT user id when logging into OWA as the entry to the mailbox to present and then authenticate with the same NT user id. But I take on board that is not imperative that these rules are followed. Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2003 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange alias naming The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias. That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for that. However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in conversation? [1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I type. On 1/17/03 8:57, Bendall, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exchange 5.5 I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one of my clients has a different naming convention in the form firstname lastname which they want to use. My question is what do other people standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any more weight to my argument. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
Re: Full Exchange Server restore query
The Ed Crowley Move Server method described in appendix A of the FAQ (I think Martin posted the URL). On 1/20/03 17:41, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, considering all circumstances, I suppose there is no real need to keep the Server name the same, the only reason I said we need to is that I read a KB article Q177635 which said that to restore the dir.edb, it's Windows NT Name specific thus can only be restored to a server with the same name. I may have misunderstood this but I am willing to learn. And also, what is ECMSM? I am actually a Lotus Domino Admin, but am learning exchange as I go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: 20 January 2003 23:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Full Exchange Server restore query Do you really need to keep the same name? Are you sure? Are you really sure? For this type of restore I don't see the need to do anything off network. Shut down the old server, restore to the new server, fix whatever is still broke. [1] But I try my darndest to never have to actually do that and use the ECMSM instead if at all possible. [1] More or less. On 1/20/03 16:44, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Full Exchange Server restore query
Ed's method is the way to go. I have done it a number of times (in fact just a few weeks ago) and it is quite painless. Since you are installing 5.5 on a W2k server, you may find this of interest as well: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/deployment/55/Upgrade2000qi.asp One more thing: As Mr. Scharff pointed out a few days ago, any items in DIR are toast[1] when you move a mailbox to another server, so if they need to recover anything after you move their mailbox,you may be suprised to find there is nothing there. [1] m toast... -- Original Message -- From: Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:41:15 -0800 (PST) Well, considering all circumstances, I suppose there is no real need to keep the Server name the same, the only reason I said we need to is that I read a KB article Q177635 which said that to restore the dir.edb, it's Windows NT Name specific thus can only be restored to a server with the same name. I may have misunderstood this but I am willing to learn. And also, what is ECMSM? I am actually a Lotus Domino Admin, but am learning exchange as I go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: 20 January 2003 23:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Full Exchange Server restore query Do you really need to keep the same name? Are you sure? Are you really sure? For this type of restore I don't see the need to do anything off network. Shut down the old server, restore to the new server, fix whatever is still broke. [1] But I try my darndest to never have to actually do that and use the ECMSM instead if at all possible. [1] More or less. On 1/20/03 16:44, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Full Exchange Server restore query
In any case, it's http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Full Exchange Server restore query The Ed Crowley Move Server method described in appendix A of the FAQ (I think Martin posted the URL). On 1/20/03 17:41, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, considering all circumstances, I suppose there is no real need to keep the Server name the same, the only reason I said we need to is that I read a KB article Q177635 which said that to restore the dir.edb, it's Windows NT Name specific thus can only be restored to a server with the same name. I may have misunderstood this but I am willing to learn. And also, what is ECMSM? I am actually a Lotus Domino Admin, but am learning exchange as I go. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: 20 January 2003 23:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Full Exchange Server restore query Do you really need to keep the same name? Are you sure? Are you really sure? For this type of restore I don't see the need to do anything off network. Shut down the old server, restore to the new server, fix whatever is still broke. [1] But I try my darndest to never have to actually do that and use the ECMSM instead if at all possible. [1] More or less. On 1/20/03 16:44, Steven Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking to move an Exchange Server to a new physical server (And I need to keep the server name the same). The old server is running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 and I'm looking to upgrade it to Win2K running Exchange 5.5 Thanks Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf of Ed Crowley Sent: 20 January 2003 22:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Full Exchange Server restore query To answer the question reasonably, we will need to know more about what you're doing and why. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steven Owen Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Full Exchange Server restore query Hello all, Windows NT4 Exchange Server 5.5 Full restore of Directory Service Information Store I have a query regarding the restore of Exchange 5.5 Server to new hardware. I have read over the DR Whitepapers and KB Article 177635 and am slightly confused and hope one of you guys can clarify Once you have installed a BDC to the production NT4 domain and it has a copy of the SAM Accounts Database, it then says take it off the production network, isolate it and then promote to a PDC. Do you have to promote this to a PDC? or is it an option. The reason I ask is because ideally once the Exchange Server is restored to my new hardware, I would like to place this back on my production network which already has a PDC and unless I am mistaken, you can only have 1 PDC on an NT4 Domain If anyone has any other KB Articles they can recommend, I will gladly read them. Cheers Steven Owen Wooden Spoon Society Charity of British Rugby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook Response Times - Problem solved
After 3 weeks of hassel and 4 hours on the phone today with PSS it was discovered that Windows XP and the Miscrosoft ISA firewall client don't play well together if not correctly addressed. In a setting, such as ours, where E2K is a SecureNAT client with the ISA and windows XP clients have the ISA firewall client installed and enabled, if the ISA does not have the domianname.com, .org, .net or whatever in it's LDT, new mail notifications will not be displayed in outlook - no matter which version is used. When setting up Miscrsoft's ISA server and adding an entry in the LDT, there is a browse button that will find the local domain and add it - this falsely adds *.domainname.com (or .whatever) which will not work (at least in our case according to PSS) One has to manually add domainname.com without the wild card - either that or disable the firewall client altogether. If Windows XP install is an upgrade from Windows 2000 things work fine. This only effected fresh installs of Windows Xp for us. The addition of the domainname.com and a refresh of the f-wall client proved to work for us. Thanks for everyone's help, Casey â²Úh²Ø§PÛiÿü0ÂÌÇ(úÞ²«qïÞÅÈ_j¨m Ü+Þ²m§ÿðà 0Êy ¢oì׬yªÜû j·!jÊS¢éì¹» ®Þ¨¥¶^j÷ÅÈZ¥²Ì2G(L\ ©àx¸¬µ§fyb²Ö)ìÃ)är
