RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find? Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his ethics are without question. So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see what he's supposed to be doing. First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here: To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference, or LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, the coffee? Second, Greg's list of ethics claim: To disclose any and all influences that may affect our recommendations Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone, you would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay Networks, etc., Rep. has called? Or are you saying that you never meet with the vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your customers? Do you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of one vendors products over another? Will you then tell me all the magazines you read, what date, publication, page number, etc? Third, Greg's list goes on to say: To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues [and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish them. work into these statements? This is just what I don't need in a vendor. Someone who believes he's always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers, HE'S going to finish it. I can see now why people flock to your organization Greg. The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and then give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it doesn't. You want to wave a flag around and say I have ethics and yet not live by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated with the onslaught. I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say they'll finish any fight. It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this. You are a Sales Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be drumming up business for. Just how much business do you think you have generated on this list after acting in the manner you did? Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Walker, Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Ban him? Why? I hold him single handedly responsible for this lists entertainment value surpassing that of its technical value. -heath -Original Message- From: Erik L. Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Why not ban him? Surely there is a anti-spam filter on this list? This person seems to be interested in 'stoking' the fires of a few so confrontation may incur. Erik L. Vesneski Intel Lead - WCDC/ISO www.pmigroup.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish them. So why did you feel the need to change the thread to post the exact same nonsense you've been spouting all along? Don't say that we keep bringing this up. All I in the second post in the original thread was that I'm a vendor whore. You took over and started with your silly, unjustified position. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my crazed views on ethics in the form of a free monthly newsletter, The IT Ethics Newsletter. Details can be found at http://www.infonition.com/ethics I have not yet covered the Conflict of Interest topic but I'm sure that it will come up eventually. Until then, here is how I see the two sides. Greg: Accepting direct gifts from third parties, especially
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
I am not quibbling with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at what you said. You see, you can't claim to be the all ethical sort you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making. I didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear. How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one point, and then make irrelevant statements about people calling you names. Since I didn't call you names sir, perhaps you should go back and re-read the whole message. It's not that I consider you a liar, or that you are stupid. I now consider you incapable of having any type of intelligent discussion based on the fact that you choose to ignore 2/3rds of what was posted, or should I just assume that you chose not to discuss those points because you couldn't keep your I have my Ethics argument and all this would be moot? Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word MOOT? Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics So you are going to quibble with things that I said? You people are so whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when I was called a liar or a wife beater or stupid or idiot or that I starve children. All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but explaining to someone that if you start a fight (in email for Christ's sake) that I will finish that fight. Oh that is TERRIBLE! How could you SAY such a thing. Never mind the liar, stupid, idiot stuff, THAT, sir, is uncalled for. Bob, you amaze me. You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find? Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his ethics are without question. So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see what he's supposed to be doing. First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here: To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products=20 One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference, or LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, the coffee? Second, Greg's list of ethics claim: To disclose any and all influences that may affect our recommendations=20 Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone, you would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay Networks, etc., Rep. has called? Or are you saying that you never meet with the vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your customers? Do you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of one vendors products over another? Will you then tell me all the magazines you read, what date, publication, page number, etc? Third, Greg's list goes on to say: To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues [and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times=20 One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish them. work into these statements? This is just what I don't need in a vendor. Someone who believes he's always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers, HE'S going to finish it. I can see now why people flock to your organization Greg. The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and then give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it doesn't. You want to wave a flag around and say I have ethics and yet not live by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated with the onslaught. I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say they'll finish any fight. It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this. You are a Sales Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be drumming up business for. Just how much business do you think you have generated on this list after acting in the manner you did? Bob Sadler -Original Message- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
I have no credibility because I don't say BOO? Ok then...BOO Do I get credibility now? In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their world. Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed it was you that were claiming to be the ethical god here. Perhaps your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics was where I went astray. As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own website. YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you! You don't like what your company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job elsewhere. One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this list when you explode on potential customers. I hope you never decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know when to shut up. As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up, sit back, and learn. Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a lifetime. While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these people do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call someone an idiot for not looking up an issue like How do I turn on my computer before posting it to the list. Remember, the people on this list are under ZERO obligation to help you, or anyone else. When they do choose to help, they can save your butt more times then not. But they WILL NOT, nor should the be expected to, put up with damn fools that ask a question that would be answered faster if that person would have taken the time to research the question themselves. Sure, I don't like being called Lazy, but I promise, it took only once from ED to make me understand that I better research the hell out of something before I bring it here. Even then, I don't expect Ed, or the rest, to be nice when it's a stupid ass mistake I made myself and have no one to blame but myself. You don't like the people in this list, change to a different list. But don't complain about the free service you get here, just because you don't like it when someone calls you a stupid fool for not doing your homework before you got here. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase I finish them (fights) offensive but not someone being called a liar, stupid, idiot, wife beater. You simply have zaro credibility. Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to even debating this with you because you are never going to see it because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life. But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the information and get out. Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to be the all ethical sort. And to my knowledge, I have no ethics test that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes your bias. I am not, nor ever will be all ethical and holier than thou. I have *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all. Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft partner. In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight. And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably occurred. And guess what? I stopped that long, long, long ago because IT IS WRONG. So, to sum it up, you have no credibility that you have been offended in any way because there have been lots more offensive stuff said that you have not said
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Since he's only a Sales Manager, I wouldn't think he would have billable hours to clients. It's not like he's an MVP :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I am so very, very touched by your concern. Never fear, I keep such activities as this list well separated from hours billed to clients. Greg, I hope that you are not typing these long marathon e-mail responses on your clients' time. That could be an ethical dilemma. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Well, here we have an interesting turn of events. I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. Well, ok, then let me re-phrase what I said, and I will make it short and sweet, so your attention span doesn't have a chance to wander. Shut up or leave the list. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim. If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume you will then take as proof that you are right or that I cannot make rational arguments or whatever other non-sense you want to claim. Ethical god? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an ethical god. I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 that then degenerated into this mess. Thank your buddy Ed for that. And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines. Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail. That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY. Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for speeding. I have no credibility because I don't say BOO? Ok then...BOO Do I get credibility now? In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their world. Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed it was you that were claiming to be the ethical god here. Perhaps your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics was where I went astray. As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own website. YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you! You don't like what your company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job elsewhere. One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this list when you explode on potential customers. I hope you never decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know when to shut up. As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up, sit back, and learn. Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a lifetime. While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these people do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call someone an idiot for not looking up an issue like How do I turn on my computer before posting it to the list. Remember, the people on this list are under ZERO obligation to help you, or anyone else. When they do choose to help, they can save your butt more times then not. But they WILL NOT, nor should the be expected to, put up with damn fools that ask a question that would be answered faster if that person would have taken the time to research the question themselves. Sure, I don't like being called Lazy, but I promise, it took only once from ED to make me understand that I better research the hell out of something before I bring it here. Even then, I don't expect Ed, or the rest, to be nice when it's a stupid ass mistake I made myself and have no one to blame but myself. You don't like the people in this list, change to a different list. But don't complain about the free service you get here, just because you don't like it when someone calls you a stupid fool for not doing your homework before you got here. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
I get this strange idea that someone wasn't chosen to be an MVP and is very very angry about it :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics So how fundamentally different is paying Microsoft to be a Partner than being an MVP? It's true that I don't pay actual money to be an MVP, but I do work for it. Don't you have to sign lots of agreement papers to be a Partner? Do you give all your customers copies of those papers so they can assess the level of conflict of interest? So if I send Microsoft a dollar for my MVP status, the conflict of interest ends? You still haven't proven your assertion that my accepting the small gratuity and title associated with MVP constitutes a conflict of interest. Your only proof so far is along the lines of, It's obvious, or It is because I say it is. Perhaps it's because you can't prove it? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase I finish them (fights) offensive but not someone being called a liar, stupid, idiot, wife beater. You simply have zaro credibility. Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to even debating this with you because you are never going to see it because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life. But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the information and get out. Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to be the all ethical sort. And to my knowledge, I have no ethics test that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes your bias. I am not, nor ever will be all ethical and holier than thou. I have *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all. Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft partner. In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight. And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably occurred. And guess what? I stopped that long, long, long ago because IT IS WRONG. So, to sum it up, you have no credibility that you have been offended in any way because there have been lots more offensive stuff said that you have not said boo about. And, you are in self-denial about the DISTINCT difference between accepting a pure gift from a vendor and PAYING that vendor to attend a convention, etc. Here's a hint. One costs you money, the other doesn't. I am not quibbling with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at what you said. You see, you can't claim to be the all ethical sort you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making. I didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear. How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one point, and then make irrelevant statements about people calling you names. Since I didn't call you names sir, perhaps you should go back and re-read the whole message. It's not that I consider you a liar, or that you are stupid. I now consider you incapable of having any type of intelligent discussion based on the fact that you choose to ignore 2/3rds of what was posted, or should I just assume that you chose not to discuss those points because you couldn't keep your I have my Ethics argument and all this would be moot? Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word MOOT? Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9
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I said TOP 10 Classic Hit :) Tom M. of Texas is the winner if anyone cares. The song was Jessie's Girl by Rick Springfield. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics : Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word MOOT? Do you mean in the band name, song title or lyrics? Eg: Moot The Hoople - Ballad of Mott the Hoople (1973)? This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
That what they said about herpes :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics If people would just quit responding to him, he would go away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Then you live your ethics, and let the rest of us live ours. Then, when the IT industry goes to hell in a handbasket, you can blame us all for it's demise. We (speaking collectively here) don't believe that MVP's are unethical for receiving a small stipend or gift (whatever it might be). You do. That's fine, but stop trying to force it upon the rest of us. Our views aren't going to change, and your views aren't going to change, so let it rest. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim. If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume you will then take as proof that you are right or that I cannot make rational arguments or whatever other non-sense you want to claim. Ethical god? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an ethical god. I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 that then degenerated into this mess. Thank your buddy Ed for that. And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines. Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail. That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY. Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for speeding. I have no credibility because I don't say BOO? Ok then...BOO Do I get credibility now? In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their world. Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed it was you that were claiming to be the ethical god here. Perhaps your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics was where I went astray. As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own website. YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you! You don't like what your company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job elsewhere. One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this list when you explode on potential customers. I hope you never decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know when to shut up. As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up, sit back, and learn. Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a lifetime. While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these people do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call someone an idiot for not looking up an issue like How do I turn on my computer before posting it to the list. Remember, the people on this list are under ZERO obligation to help you, or anyone else. When they do choose to help, they can save your butt more times then not. But they WILL NOT, nor should the be expected to, put up with damn fools that ask a question that would be answered
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
VH1 - Where are they now :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics And just who's survey list did you use to verify this? Billboard or the AT40 list? John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:33 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I said TOP 10 Classic Hit :) Tom M. of Texas is the winner if anyone cares. The song was Jessie's Girl by Rick Springfield. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics : Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word MOOT? Do you mean in the band name, song title or lyrics? Eg: Moot The Hoople - Ballad of Mott the Hoople (1973)? This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Oh gosh, I had no idea we've been talking about this for 8 years! And because you were able to resist the great Satan, now you come here and tell us all that those damnable MVP's here are leading us into sin! I see the light! OK, thanks, move along now. Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Again, your ignorance of the facts makes you look foolish. I was asked to be an MVP and turned it down. That's what started this whole mess 8 years ago. I get this strange idea that someone wasn't chosen to be an MVP and is very very angry about it :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics So how fundamentally different is paying Microsoft to be a Partner than being an MVP? It's true that I don't pay actual money to be an MVP, but I do work for it. Don't you have to sign lots of agreement papers to be a Partner? Do you give all your customers copies of those papers so they can assess the level of conflict of interest? So if I send Microsoft a dollar for my MVP status, the conflict of interest ends? You still haven't proven your assertion that my accepting the small gratuity and title associated with MVP constitutes a conflict of interest. Your only proof so far is along the lines of, It's obvious, or It is because I say it is. Perhaps it's because you can't prove it? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase I finish them (fights) offensive but not someone being called a liar, stupid, idiot, wife beater. You simply have zaro credibility. Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to even debating this with you because you are never going to see it because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life. But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the information and get out. Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to be the all ethical sort. And to my knowledge, I have no ethics test that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes your bias. I am not, nor ever will be all ethical and holier than thou. I have *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all. Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft partner. In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight. And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably occurred. And guess what? I stopped that long, long, long ago because IT IS WRONG. So, to sum it up, you have no credibility that you have been offended in any way because there have been lots more offensive stuff said that you have not said boo about. And, you are in self-denial about the DISTINCT difference between accepting a pure gift from a vendor and PAYING that vendor to attend a convention, etc. Here's a hint. One costs you money, the other doesn't. I am not quibbling with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at what you said. You see, you can't claim to be the all ethical sort=20 you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making. =20 I didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR=20 company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear. =20 How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one
RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Now there's a twist on it I haven't thought of. You mean if I get herpes my Chronic Back Pain will go away? :) To hell with this scheduled neurosurgery, I'm gonna go get Herpes! Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics But according to the commercials on TV it's hip to get herpes. You can do all these cool things like rafting and mountain climbing when you have herpes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics That what they said about herpes :) Bob Sadler -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics If people would just quit responding to him, he would go away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Then you live your ethics, and let the rest of us live ours. Then, when the IT industry goes to hell in a handbasket, you can blame us all for it's demise. We (speaking collectively here) don't believe that MVP's are unethical for receiving a small stipend or gift (whatever it might be). You do. That's fine, but stop trying to force it upon the rest of us. Our views aren't going to change, and your views aren't going to change, so let it rest. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim. If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume you will then take as proof that you are right or that I cannot make rational arguments or whatever other non-sense you want to claim. Ethical god? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an ethical god. I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 that then degenerated into this mess. Thank your buddy Ed for that. And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines. Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail. That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY. Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for speeding. I have no credibility because I don't say BOO? Ok then...BOO Do I get credibility now? In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their world. Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed it was you that were claiming to be the ethical god here. Perhaps your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics was where I went astray. As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own website. YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you! You don't like what your company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job elsewhere. One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this list when you explode on potential customers. I hope you never decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know when to shut up. As for the name-calling that goes on this list
OT: My Ethics are still good!
I just received a phone call from the Who's Who list, and they wanted to put me in their upcoming edition. Of course, I said, in order to make it ethical, I would first have to pay you to put me in your edition. They insisted though that this was an AWARDED position based upon my credentials in my field, and you couldn't buy your way into the Who's Who. Well, I told them right then and there that I know my ethics, and if I can't buy the award, it must be unethical! Thanks Greg! I have seen the light Bob Sadler _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?
So to fix this, send beer to Tom, then to Martin, then Ben, then me :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? I'm thinking the same thing. I imagine this guy managed to flub up his install some way or another and now it's a bug to him -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? I haven't seen any reports of this on any of the newsgroups or anywhere else. If it was this big of a flaw, I suspect there would be a big stink about it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:12 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? That's because Microsoft knows of the issue but does not have a fix yet. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? I have not heard of it... Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:57 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? Subject: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw? Is this BS or has anyone else heard of this flaw? -Original Message- From: Windows NTBugtraq Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Johnson Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2003 OWA major security flaw We have upgraded our servers to Microsoft Exchange 2003 and noticed a severe security issue with OWA. When you log in with your own credentials you may be logged into another user's mailbox at random and has full access to this user's mailbox. Microsoft knows of the issue but does not have a fix yet. I was wondering how many others have seen this issue and have received the same answer from Microsoft. This seems to be a major security flaw and we have had to shut off OWA indefinitely because of the issue. Matthew Johnson CCNA Network Administrator Investment Scorecard, Inc. 615.301.7611 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.investmentscorecard.com http://www.investmentscorecard.com/ - Marcus Ranum's new book The Myth of Homeland Security is now out and is available from http://www.amazon.com/ranum In this hard-hitting review of the homeland security business, Ranum shows us how the problem is vastly harder than it's being made to sound, and how special interests, butt covering, and bureaucracy are threatening to derail any chance of making progress. - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang= english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang
RE: Web outlook woes
Send Beer Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes That was it. (URLscan) I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until now. The system has been running since May! Thanks everyone, you rock!!! John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Exchange version please. -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Web outlook woes Hey all... I am experiencing some Web outlook issues. When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why... But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb. Anyone seen anything likr this? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or shoot them down? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Best Practices materials Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being used by an org? I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything in writing that dictates those explanations. I would be very grateful if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could follow. best regards, Pat _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http
RE: Web outlook woes
Does this mean you aren't sending beer? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Just removed the URLscan. And the problem went away. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Send Beer Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes That was it. (URLscan) I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until now. The system has been running since May! Thanks everyone, you rock!!! John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Exchange version please. -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Web outlook woes Hey all... I am experiencing some Web outlook issues. When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why... But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb. Anyone seen anything likr this? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or shoot them down? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Best Practices materials Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being used by an org? I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything in writing that dictates those explanations. I would be very grateful if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could follow. best regards, Pat _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: Web outlook woes
Damn firewall...I told them I didn't really need that thing! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes I did send it. I think you're firewall blocked it... John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Does this mean you aren't sending beer? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Just removed the URLscan. And the problem went away. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Send Beer Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes That was it. (URLscan) I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until now. The system has been running since May! Thanks everyone, you rock!!! John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Web outlook woes Exchange version please. -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Web outlook woes Hey all... I am experiencing some Web outlook issues. When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why... But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb. Anyone seen anything likr this? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best Practices materials Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or shoot them down? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Best Practices materials Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being used by an org? I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything in writing that dictates those explanations. I would be very grateful if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could follow. best regards, Pat _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ
RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5
Have you asked Ed to? :) *DUCKS* Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5 Mongo change ISP. -Original Message- From: Jim Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5 I would if I could. Earthlink does NOT offer a static IP for cable internet accounts. Earthlink will NOT provide any DNS services, like making a PTR record. Best Regards, JMU Jim Underwood -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 14:40 To: Jim Underwood Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5 Why don't you just go with a static IP and make sure you have a valid reverse ptr record? -Original Message- From: Jim Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5 When any user on our Exchange Server 5.5 tries to send an EMail to AOL or an AOL company (Like cs.com), he receives the following nondelivery notice: === Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Test Msg to cs.com Sent: 11/06/03 13:41 The following recipient(s) could not be reached: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/06/03 13:41 Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ApolloInfoSys;l=APOLLO1-031106194050Z-1991 === The Exchange Server is on an Earthlink Cable Internet network with dynamic IP. I have read that there may be two reasons for rejecting the mail: 1. Incorrect reverse DNS 2. AOL blocks all EMail from the broadband user networks like Earthlink.net So it would appear that I need to find an EMail host that I can relay our outbound mail to. === MY QUESTIONS: === 1. Do you agree with my assessment of the problem? If not, what do you think it is and how can I fix it? 2. Can you recommend an EMail host that will accept relay from our Exchange Server 5.5? BACKGROUND INFO: Mail Server is Apollo1.ApolloIS.com IP is 24.238.172.104 Reverse DNS is: user-0cetb38.cable.mindspring.com Best Regards, JMU Jim Underwood Apollo Information Systems, Inc. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold
Make a distribution list that goes nowhere and put those email addresses that you are getting spammed with there. Acts as a blackhole, eating up junk and never gives an NDR :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold I'm sorry , I meant blocking SMTP sender's NDR . Essentially trying to block SPAMMERS a response for those mails which bounce back to them because of a wrong e-mail address spelling or mail bound for someone who no more exists with my company. As I wrote we'll manually monitor those mails (as we already do now) in a separate exchange mailbox. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold Why would you do that? NDR's are a very necessary tool. How is someone that is trying to email the CEO know that his important message did not get delivered? -Original Message- From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR Question Hi everyone, I was wondering , if there is a way I can stop NDR to senders and still have copies of NDRs sent to a mailbox within same exchange organization ? I looked all KB but couldn't find a way to do this. I'm running Exchange 2k-SP3. Any help or direction in this regards will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Kishore _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=? =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=? =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Urgent Confidential
WOW! 25 Million Dollars! SIGN ME UP NOW!
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent Confidential
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;
1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.
2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.
3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done
by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager guarantees the
successful execution of this transaction. If you are interested, please
reply immediately via the private Tel/Fax numbers above. Upon your
response, which will include your personal Tel/Fax numbers I shall then
provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you
understand. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that
this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall
require your assistance to invest my share in your country. A swift
acknowledgement on the receipt of this mail will be appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie Esq.
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RE: Urgent Confidential
Hundreds?
Wow! You could rolling in the cash if you just respond!*
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
*Note - I'm being factitious of course
-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
We get hundreds of those every day. How did he get on this list? Did he
subscribe?
Kind regards,
Kim Schotanus
===
Kim Schotanus
Information Systems Manager
INTAS
Avenue des Arts 58
B-1000 Brussels
Belgium
T. +32 2 549 01 11
F. +32 2 549 01 56
===
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
Onuigbo is my new buddy. Always wanted a lawyer friend called Onuigbo
From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:04:26 -0500
WOW! 25 Million Dollars! SIGN ME UP NOW!
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent Confidential
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;
1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.
2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.
3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done
by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager guarantees the
successful execution of this transaction. If you are interested, please
reply immediately via the private Tel/Fax numbers above. Upon your
response, which will include your personal Tel/Fax numbers I shall then
provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you
understand. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that
this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall
require your assistance to invest my share in your country. A swift
acknowledgement on the receipt of this mail will be appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie Esq.
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RE: Urgent Confidential
Really? I can't believe that! I mean you have to believe there are
hundreds of banks with this very problem! Who in their right mind would
not take advantage to get all that money! You could be richer then Bill
Gates in no time!
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
There was an article a few months back in a local newspaper about some
people who reacted on a similar mail, they turn out to request headed
paper, bank account numbers, swift codes etc... In the end their savings
account was empty, and not the other way around... K/
-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 18:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
Hundreds?
Wow! You could rolling in the cash if you just respond!*
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
*Note - I'm being factitious of course
-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
We get hundreds of those every day. How did he get on this list? Did he
subscribe?
Kind regards,
Kim Schotanus
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
Onuigbo is my new buddy. Always wanted a lawyer friend called Onuigbo
From: Bob Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Urgent Confidential
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:04:26 -0500
WOW! 25 Million Dollars! SIGN ME UP NOW!
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent Confidential
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;
1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.
2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.
3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done
by the attorney and my position
RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
You order that rum and coke a few times and it seems like anything is possible. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue How do they work on airplanes? From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:02 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue Of course, this being an Exchange list, Im pretty sure you meant it was tough using Outlook locally on a laptop with Citrix. Sure enough it is. Well, in fact, its damn near impossible. We have both VPN and Citrix here and since we implemented Citrix, none of the laptop users use the VPN anymore or sync their files offline. For the end-user, Citrix is a no-brainer it seems. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you need to work on to your local drive on the laptop. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue Makes laptop use a little tough though. From: Hague, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and configuration aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the performance is probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you look it at all the factors there is a positive ROI. Jeff -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO. -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This works wonders for us - full Outlook Exchange as well as all the other apps we run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding is that Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB RAM) is fine for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix on top of Terminal is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local printers, sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality. Either 1 requires only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by any ISPs (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine its as tight as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so convenient is the Advanced Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads the client software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The directions to get our clients set up was litterally go to .whatever.com and follow the instructions. There is some work to do getting the apps set up properly but common apps like Outlook, Word and Excel are very well documented. Getting our custom apps running wasnt near as difficult as I had expected either. The big trick for us is handling profiles because some of our clients can not have access to certain apps that other clients need so we had to modify some profiles manually but with so few clients it hasnt been a big deal. Jeff Hague MCSE Network Manager Randolph-Macon College Ashland, VA -Original Message- From: Hank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Port 135 and Exchange Issue We are trying to recover from ISPs closing down port 135. We have an dedicated Exchange Server at a hosting company. 20 of our 23 people scattered around the country can not use the full functionality of Outlook/Exchange because of this problem. We are a classic case study of how a company has suceeded in business by using most of the functionality of Outlook/Exchange. We built our 3 year old company's communications, task management, and database using the Exchange Platform, including extensive use of custom 'forms' that track hundreds of tasks and our workflow. The ISP's closing out port 135 has brought us to our knees. We
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Use the terms anyways or irregardless in my presence and I'll correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day situations, and enjoy it. Is this with strangers? Are you often punched? -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server I do. It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly. Please drive through. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time. I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha. I'm a messaging services manager, running communications for a company with offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it. The people whose opinions I actually care about in the technical arena know what I know and/or can do. Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful. Still am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you. You want nice? I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be nice. Hell, I'll even cook dinner. You want to post here with a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you. You don't like it? Tough. Like you said in one of your last pieces of drivel, don't read it. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server See, this is what I am talking about. You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends! LOL -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We care because you're a time wasting
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock me all during lunch :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am in town. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:50 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Use the terms anyways or irregardless in my presence and I'll correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day situations, and enjoy it. Is this with strangers? Are you often punched? -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server I do. It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly. Please drive through. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time. I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha. I'm a messaging services manager, running communications for a company with offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it. The people whose opinions I actually care about in the technical arena know what I know and/or can do. Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful. Still am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you. You want nice? I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be nice. Hell, I'll even cook dinner. You want to post here with a complete expectation that someone else is going to do
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Sure Ed, if you come to Kansas City, I'll buy you lunch and dinner! :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server If you're paying, I'll come mock you too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock me all during lunch :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am in town. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:50 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Use the terms anyways or irregardless in my presence and I'll correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day situations, and enjoy it. Is this with strangers? Are you often punched? -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server I do. It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly. Please drive through. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Let me see, Ed, Chris and myself...beer? Hmmm...that's a distinctive possibility. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Is there going to be beer involved? That would make it doubly fun. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server If you're paying, I'll come mock you too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock me all during lunch :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am in town. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:50 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Use the terms anyways or irregardless in my presence and I'll correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day situations, and enjoy it. Is this with strangers? Are you often punched? -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server I do. It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly. Please drive through. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Let's begin the Chant: There is NO M Drive There is NO M Drive There is NO M Drive Good...just keep repeating that to yourself. If you need to know WHY, I suggest you pick up a good book on Exchange administration and read it. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Why is it there though? Will services run without it? Why would M:icrosoft put that there? Thanks Sam -Original Message- From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Are you being funny? There is definitely a M: drive! What is that He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus scan it! Don't back it up! -kevin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.
Run the Task Manager on your Exchange Server and see what's eating up all the CPU Pocesses. We have this problem occasionally with mssdmn.exe running 100% utilization. We just kill this process and things go back to normal. As of yet, no one at MS has been able to explain why this occurs. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age. Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly. Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions. Our server is older (Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of memory. 700 users). The only thing that's changed is we have recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP workstations. Almost all those users receive the following message the first time they logon Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server Exchange. You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the Windows taskbar until Outlook closes the message automatically. Some of them receive the message more frequently. Maybe the two issues aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing that's changed recently. Is anybody else having issues using XP Professional with Exchange 5.5? Thanks. Robert *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This electronic mail message and any attachments to this electronic mail message contain confidential information belonging to the originator, and may be attorney client privileged or constitute inside information. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) listed as the recipient(s). If you are not one of the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the electronically mailed information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please forward the electronic mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then remove all traces of the electronic mail message from your system. *** The Dayton Power Light Company. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with you Sam. You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well, and tugged at my heart. Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you. Is this what you teach your Special Ed children? That getting angry and saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you first? Hey, I totally understand your frustration. Someone's breathing down you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running. I understand you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do. But, I don't understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has inflicted you with such pain; you should know better. I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were asking something fairly advanced. I suggest you do one of the following three things at this point: 1). Go to www.microsoft.com and research. Search through the Knowledge Base on pertinent keywords to your problem. Try many different words though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way. 2). Call PSS. This will cost you about $300 I believe. But those people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you how to accomplish what you need to. 3). Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems. You may even find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ him. This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings next year. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time. I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha. I'm a messaging services manager, running communications for a company with offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it. The people whose opinions I actually care about in the technical arena know what I know and/or can do. Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful. Still am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you. You want nice? I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be nice. Hell, I'll even cook dinner. You want to post here with a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you. You don't like it? Tough. Like you said in one of your last pieces of drivel, don't read it. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server See, this is what I am talking about. You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends! LOL -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Thanks Tony for your advice. Why do you care what I ask on this listserv? I thought this list was for questions. Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are not. Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are not? If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't answer. I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server. I have picked up a few good books
RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems
Try connecting your clients to the IP Address and see if they hold their connectivity. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems Nope, just the server name, returns correctly... Kind regards, Kim Schotanus === Kim Schotanus Information Systems Manager INTAS Avenue des Arts 58 B-1000 Brussels Belgium T. +32 2 549 01 11 F. +32 2 549 01 56 === -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems Are you pinging with ip numbers? Have you tried pinging with fully qualified names to see if your DNS is returning the correct results? Or run NSLOOKUP and see what your DNS shows. Are your clients configured to connect through the DNS Name or the IP Address? IF DNS Name, reconfig one to point to the IP Address and see if that stays online. If it does, most likely you are having some sort of DNS issue. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems Situation: 5 win2K servers, 2 Domain controllers, Exch2K, SQL2K and Sharepoint on 1 machine, Cisco switches (2950), ... I rebooted all servers, unplugged switches, complete AV checkup What can I do more? I can ping all servers from my workstation without problems/delays Kim -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible DNS? MBLAST Virus? DOS attack? I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to something and then have this start? If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are ok, etc... Any clues? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Exchange
That is exactly what he's saying. Do you have a SMTP Gateway setup to stop spam, or a virus filter, or both? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Exchange Sorry, I am trying to troubleshoot a problem that I have very little knowledge in so if I appear to be a bit slow please forgive me. Your statement saying exchange is not listening confuses me. Are you saying there is some other software running between my exchange server and the rest of the world which is placing its limits on the mail? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:Re: Strange Exchange Again, as per the last message you posted and I responded to, this error is not being generated by Exchange. It is being generated by whatever is listening at your default gateway. Your mx record may be labeled exchange.satake-usa.com, but whatever is listening isn't Exchange. nslookup Default Server: m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com Address: 10.0.0.246 set q=mx satake-usa.com Server: m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com Address: 10.0.0.246 Non-authoritative answer: satake-usa.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = exchange.satake-usa.com Authoritative answers can be found from: satake-usa.com nameserver = ns2.satake-usa.com satake-usa.com nameserver = ns1.satake-usa.com exchange.satake-usa.com internet address = 66.139.24.50 telnet exchange.satake-usa.com 25 Trying 66.139.24.50... Connected to exchange.satake-usa.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 SMTP service ready ehlo foo.bar 250-Requested mail action okay, completed 250-HELP 250 SIZE 3072000 Whatever is listening does indeed have a storage limit. I'm not sure why 30 seconds of research is not possible by anyone else on the list this morning, but the answer seems abundantly clear once one stops throwing out wild guesses and actually applies some kind of methodology to troubleshooting. From: Don Bruess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:41:17 -0700 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Strange Exchange I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending large files. I have verified the system default has no limits on a per messages or over all on storage. I have also verified my personal box has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when this started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any size files. Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It appears to be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the same rule to the entire exchange server. Thanks, dl _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Paul: Your problem with speed may be that you are doing BLB (Brick Level Backup) and not just a DB backup of the Exchange DB. If you want to speed things up by a hundred fold (guesstimation), stop doing BLB, implement the Recover Deleted Items features; find the necessary information in the FAQ. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We have a 40GB store on a XIOTECH SAN useing BE 9.0 with the Exchange Agent and backing up with a ADIC Scalar 100 LTO. ADIC says a gig a minute is normal -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute? I have a 160GB backup and it takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6. It really slows down when it hits the mailboxes though. Do you have the drive mounted directly to the exchange server? Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution
RE: Strange Exchange
Well, look in Norton's Virus Filter and see if they setup a limit on message size. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Exchange Yes to virus filter. We use Norton, we also have a file wall but I can find no settings for limiting the size of e-mail. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Strange Exchange That is exactly what he's saying. Do you have a SMTP Gateway setup to stop spam, or a virus filter, or both? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Exchange Sorry, I am trying to troubleshoot a problem that I have very little knowledge in so if I appear to be a bit slow please forgive me. Your statement saying exchange is not listening confuses me. Are you saying there is some other software running between my exchange server and the rest of the world which is placing its limits on the mail? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:Re: Strange Exchange Again, as per the last message you posted and I responded to, this error is not being generated by Exchange. It is being generated by whatever is listening at your default gateway. Your mx record may be labeled exchange.satake-usa.com, but whatever is listening isn't Exchange. nslookup Default Server: m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com Address: 10.0.0.246 set q=mx satake-usa.com Server: m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com Address: 10.0.0.246 Non-authoritative answer: satake-usa.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = exchange.satake-usa.com Authoritative answers can be found from: satake-usa.com nameserver = ns2.satake-usa.com satake-usa.com nameserver = ns1.satake-usa.com exchange.satake-usa.com internet address = 66.139.24.50 telnet exchange.satake-usa.com 25 Trying 66.139.24.50... Connected to exchange.satake-usa.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 SMTP service ready ehlo foo.bar 250-Requested mail action okay, completed 250-HELP 250 SIZE 3072000 Whatever is listening does indeed have a storage limit. I'm not sure why 30 seconds of research is not possible by anyone else on the list this morning, but the answer seems abundantly clear once one stops throwing out wild guesses and actually applies some kind of methodology to troubleshooting. From: Don Bruess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:41:17 -0700 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Strange Exchange I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending large files. I have verified the system default has no limits on a per messages or over all on storage. I have also verified my personal box has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when this started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any size files. Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It appears to be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the same rule to the entire exchange server. Thanks, dl _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe
RE: pipe dream or possible
DNS? MBLAST Virus? DOS attack? I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to something and then have this start? If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are ok, etc... Any clues? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems
Are you pinging with ip numbers? Have you tried pinging with fully qualified names to see if your DNS is returning the correct results? Or run NSLOOKUP and see what your DNS shows. Are your clients configured to connect through the DNS Name or the IP Address? IF DNS Name, reconfig one to point to the IP Address and see if that stays online. If it does, most likely you are having some sort of DNS issue. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems Situation: 5 win2K servers, 2 Domain controllers, Exch2K, SQL2K and Sharepoint on 1 machine, Cisco switches (2950), ... I rebooted all servers, unplugged switches, complete AV checkup What can I do more? I can ping all servers from my workstation without problems/delays Kim -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible DNS? MBLAST Virus? DOS attack? I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to something and then have this start? If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are ok, etc... Any clues? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Exchange
Could it be that the someone is sending a file that would take up all the rest of the disk space you have reserved for Exchange? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Don Bruess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Exchange I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending large files. I have verified the system default has no limits on a per messages or over all on storage. I have also verified my personal box has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when this started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any size files. Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It appears to be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the same rule to the entire exchange server. Thanks, dl _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003
What? I thought it was the other way around? OK, for those in the know, please clear this up. You upgrade Exchange first, then OS? Or OS first, then Exchange? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 I do not believe you can install Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003. Windows 2003 runs IIS 6.0, which Exchange 2000 does not support. On the other hand Exchange 2003 can run on IIS 5.0. So the proper upgrade path is upgrade Exchange 2000 first and then upgrade the OS to Windows 2003. Thanks, Steve Are there any restrictions on running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2003 platform? Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: In-Place Upgrade Questions
I would think the practical idea would be to run these just before you do the upgrade. If you run them now (Which wouldn't hurt), what's to say that some thing doesn't change between then and now which screws up your upgrade? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: In-Place Upgrade Questions Hello All. I will be upgrading my Exchange 5.5 to 2000 this weekend. I studied the Microsoft White Paper on doing an In-Place Upgrade of Exchange and understand that during the preparation of the Exchange 5.5 Organization, there are utilities/diagnostic tools that need to be run. For instance, the NTDSATRB to find mis-matches and MTACheck and the KCC. Can these tools be run before the actual upgrade or should I wait until the weekend and do the whole thing at once? Can utilities like NLTEST /switch, and the ADC w/Connection Agreements, /ForestPrep and /DomainPrep be run during the week before the actual upgrade? What can I do during the week that won't hinder services yet give me a jump on the actual upgrade this weekend. What things were you able to run/fix before the actual upgrade? Thanks Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
Oh my :) Please, I want to help! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 05, 1980 1:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL FROM THE DESK OF THE CHAIRMAN: SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR BUDGET AND PLANNING OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING(FMWH). DEAR PARTNER, STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL WE ARE MEMBERS OF A SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR BUDGET AND PLANNING OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING(FMWH). THIS COMMITTEE IS PRINCIPALLY CONCERNED WITH CONTRACT AWARDS AND APPROVAL. WITH OUR POSITIONS, WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY SECURED FOR OURSELVES THE SUM OF THIRTY ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (US$31.5M). THIS AMOUNT WAS CAREFULLY MANIPULATED BY OVER-INVOICING OF AN OLD CONTRACT. BASED ON INFORMATION GATHERED ABOUT YOU, WE BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO HELP US IN TRANSFERING THIS FUND (US$31.5M) INTO A SAFE ACCOUNT. IT HAS BEEN AGREED THAT THE OWNER OF THE ACCOUNT WILL BE COMPENSATED WITH 30% OF THE REMITTED FUNDS, WHILE WE KEEP 60% AS THE INITIATORS AND 10% WILL BE SET ASIDE TO OFFSET EXPENSES AND PAY THE NECESSARY TAXES. WE INTEND TO USE PART OF OUR OWN SHARE TO IMPORT FROM YOUR COUNTRY AGRICULTURALAND CONSTRUCTION MACHINERY. THIS IS BECAUSE THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT OF MYCOUNTRY IS EMPHASISING ON PROVIDING FOOD AND HOUSING FOR ALL ITS CITIZENSBEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION. HENCE,AGRICULTURAL AND CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT ARE IN HIGH DEMAND OVER HERE. WE SHALL ALSO NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS REGARD ON A COMMISSION TO BE AGREED UPON WHEN WE FINALLY MEET. ALL MODALITIES OF THIS TRANSACTION HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND ONCE STARTED WILL NOT TAKE MORE THAN SEVEN (7) WORKING DAYS, WITH YOUR FULL SUPPORT. THISTRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE. IF THIS PROPOSAL SATISFIES YOU,PLEASE REACH US ONLY BY EMAIL FOR MORE INFORMATION. PLEASE, TREAT AS URGENT AND VERY IMPORTANT. YOURS FAITHFULLY, DR.JOHN MARK. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reccomended Black Lists
I have been using the blacklists for about three months now. While it's easier for me to figure out the local ISP's that will be used by our constituents and put them on white lists, I can see where Martin and others are coming from. For a while I was using the FIVETEN Blackhole list combined. Then I discovered they were blocking ALL of Yahoo. I mean wow! Seemed a bit extreme to me. I did stop using that list for obvious reasons. It does seem a little risky to rely on other people's judgment for the lists, although until there is an organization that will take over these types of lists that is more reliable and has a set way to get on and off a list, it's pretty much the only thing we have. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more valuable than not. Here's what I use: -SPAM blocked today- 1423 - relays.osirusoft.com 218 - dnsbl.njabl.org 36 - relays.ordb.org Total Inbound Mail 2599 I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no accountability for these lists. They can do as they please and most often do. I'm not going to trust my business email to someone like that. Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find yourself missing valuable business email without knowing it. -Original Message- From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists Really? Do you find them to be inaccurate? -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists None -Original Message- From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Reccomended Black Lists Hi all, I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what mailhost black lists you all recommend. Thanks. Aaron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode =lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode =lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode =lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
Sounds like a DNS issue. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Just started this morning. When people try to connect to the exchange server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft Exchange Server is unavailable. IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great. None of the services are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is. Just for the heck of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers. Still have the same problem. Please give me some advice. Thanks Todd Boynton _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
Pinging doesn't necessarily mean you have no DNS issue :) Can you telnet to port 25 of your exchange server from your machine? Have you run a Traceroute from your machine to see where things might be going amiss? Has someone added a device on your network with the same IP address as your Exchange Server? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Yes, the Exchange Server can be pinged. I haven't been able to find any problem with the DNS. - Original Message - From: Shotton Jolyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k DNS would be my guess too. The other week we replaced a network card in an Exchange server. During the course of this it acquired a DHCP address. This DHCP address was retained in the DNS server records even after the new network card was given the server's original address. NT4 clients could still connect to the server but Win2K and above machines were picking up the DHCP address and could not locate it. If you haven't already see if the clients can ping the Exchange server by name - and if not what address they resolve for it. -Original Message- From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2003 14:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Just started this morning. When people try to connect to the exchange server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft Exchange Server is unavailable. IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great. None of the services are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is. Just for the heck of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers. Still have the same problem. The information contained in this e-mail is intended for the recipient or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential information that is exempt from disclosure by law and if you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any act in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete from your system. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
Go into your OUTLOOK client and change the connection from the DNS name to the IP Address and see if you can make a connection that way. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Lynne July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Your original message indicated that you restarted the servers. Do you have multiple Exchange servers, all with the same issue? -Original Message- From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Nothing indicating that it is not ok. I can't believe this is happening today. This sucks Global Catalog ok ? - Original Message - From: Todd Boynton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k There's nothing obvious in the event log. I've also turning on a dianostic logging to maximum. Yes I can rpcping the server. - Original Message - From: Missy Koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Anything in the event logs? Can you use rpcping to reach the server from the desktop? - Original Message - From: Todd Boynton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k Just started this morning. When people try to connect to the exchange server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft Exchange Server is unavailable. IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great. None of the services are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is. Just for the heck of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers. Still have the same problem. Please give me some advice. Thanks Todd Boynton _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hard drive space - OT Story
Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:
A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.
While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss. Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time. I said,
I don't know, will look into it.
Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop. Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB. Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.
So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary. For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)
Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space
You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.
- Original Message -
From: Henderson Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Redirect the temp file
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes, regardless of your Exch version.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
Then smokes a cigarette
-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
That's not entirely true.
What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database
+ 10%.
The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the
old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space
You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: hard drive space
exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on
drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
equal to the
databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and
1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
100% every 2
days. A reboot takes
care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
increased
rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
days for the store
service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
replace databases
with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. But I
can't do this
for 2 days or more. Need better Ideas.
Thanks
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RE: how to cut down on spam
CMH winners don't pay taxes :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Death and Taxes = 100% -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Nothing in life is ever 100%. I would be worried about any company that claimed their product worked 100% of the time -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam edoxs blocks 0% legitimate messages because they verify all entries in their filter are spam. Regards, Orin -Original Message- From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam Well, you can set up the spamfilter to quarantine the filtered messages for later review and if there should be a legitimate message it can be retrieved. I don't think there are any spamfilters which blocks 100% spam and 0% legitimate messages. Freddie -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2003 16:46 To: Exchange Discussions Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It seems much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL. Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely don't want to block real customers from sending us email--just the spam. --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you want to take a look at this : http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. -Original Message- From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38 To: Exchange Discussions Hi all... We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we receive a lot of spam in the company. My company does not want to buy any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is there anything built into exchange that will help reduce the spam? Is there anything that could be done on the Outlook Client that will reduce the spam? We are also running GroupShield. TIA __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com
RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
I didn't get to attend because of the Kansas Budget Crisis, but I can still bet that the #1 thing overheard was:' Where's the Beer? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Mark Rotman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd Now #2 really made me laugh!!! That was so TRUE! Nice job Andy -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd #2: Where the hell is the Arena? - Original Message - From: Walt Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd #3 My bag ripped again. Walt -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:11 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion Conversation: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd Subject: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd 10 Is an 8-node Active Exchange 2003 cluster supported under VMWare on Windows XP ? - one attendee joking ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi- bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay?
I checked, and didn't see that you are running as an open relay. Perhaps the problem you are having is Reverse DNS? I know that AOL requires a Reverse DNS record if you want to talk to it. I had to add it into my records before they would talk to me :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay? When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to a recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. Then a few days later he/she will receive another message saying The following recipient(s) could not be reached: I finally talked to technical support at AOL and they are telling me that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain and my IP is acting as An open relay, or also known as third-party relay. How do I stop this? What is the fix? Any comments or suggestion is truly appreciated. Thank you _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment. Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or so they say. I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let everyone else work out the bugs :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52 To: Exchange Discussions Good morning, Surely you are laughing by now. But my management team wants to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003. I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5. How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004. Help!!! What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)? How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow links? Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Yes, that may be true. But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the benefits of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the ability to download your mailbox to your desktop. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that Exchange2000 sp3 From a session at TechEd. All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003. That's almost 80,000 mailboxes. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment. Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or so they say. I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let everyone else work out the bugs :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52 To: Exchange Discussions Good morning, Surely you are laughing by now. But my management team wants to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003. I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5. How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004. Help!!! What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)? How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow links? Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Yes, but then I have to upgrade to OS 2003 too :) Talk about a full day :) You are right though, there are some very interesting things in that list, and I probably will see what my upgrade cost will be sooner then later :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 - AVAPI 2.5. It allows the AV vendors to actually delete messages containing viruses or matching the spam filters, if enabled, rather than just modifying the content/attachments. It also allows for stamping of a spam confidence level on messages so that users can choose how spammy they want their mailboxes to be using client software (would likely come from the same 3rd party virus vendor). - More transport queue exposure Allows for better troubleshooting. - Vastly improved management of public folders through ESM - Support for Windows 2003 AD features - Better bytes over the wire performance for LAN connected users - Vastly improved OWA including spellcheck, attachment filtering and junk mail rules - More management capabilities exposed through WMI (like being able to generate mailbox size reports with a script) - Ability to use public or private RBLs - Lots and lots of stability improvements over Exchange 2000. I don't know that any of these are compelling for you, but those are some of the interesting things for me. Remember that this is very much like Exchange 5.5 was to Exchange 5.0. Nothing earth shattering, but nobody still wants to be running on 5.0. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:25 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 Yes, that may be true. But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the benefits of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the ability to download your mailbox to your desktop. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that Exchange2000 sp3 From a session at TechEd. All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003. That's almost 80,000 mailboxes. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment. Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or so they say. I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let everyone else work out the bugs :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003 -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52 To: Exchange Discussions Good morning, Surely you are laughing by now. But my management team wants to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003. I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5. How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004. Help!!! What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)? How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow links? Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange
RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
Are you talking of the Exchange Agent from NAV or the NAV Product for virus protection? If you are talking about the Exchange Agent, it could be that your definitions file has been corrupted. Try to do a liveupdate again. If that doesn't work, then attempt to retrieve the latest def. file manually and place it in it's proper place. If this doesn't work, it's time to call Symantec for more support than can be brought on an Exchange List. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out... I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server. I am running NAV for Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server. It has been running fine for months without problems. Today it started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over and over: NAVEVAPI error NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error. A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed. (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675) NAVEVAPI error NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error. Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null) (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131) I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha. The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days) but they did not seem to cause any problems. Now the errors are occurring about every second while the NAV service is running. I stopped NAV for now and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now (including blackberry). Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV running again?? Tom _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
You are correct with your scenarios up to a point. You will STILL need the Exchange Agent for either product you wind up using. The Exchange Agent not only allows you to do BLB's (bad bad idea), but also makes the backups Exchange Aware which means that when a backup is successful, your exchange server will then delete the necessary log files. The rest of your setup is of course up to you, and custom for every different admin. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: Exchange locks up
I think what Ed is saying is that the server lockups are caused by the short amount of space you have available, and you may even be running out of space and that is causing the lockups. If you got the Enterprise edition you could bypass the limit of the 16GB. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange locks up Why? How does that solve the problem I have today? I only have 150 users and do not anticipate the store will grow over 16 gigs again. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange locks up Buy Enterprise Edition. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange locks up Hello All, Last Wednesday, one week ago, without any warning our information store stopped - reached the 16 gig limit. What I did not know was that the 16 gigs is a total of both the .stm file and the .edb file. I do not know if the public folders contributed to the 16 gigs or not as ours only account for 100 MB. My first gripe - you would think there might be a warning message or two in the event log before it shuts down!? Anyways I knew we were getting closer to the limit and I helped some people get their mailboxes cleaned out in the 2 weeks previous. Here are the steps we followed. Rebooted. IS still would not load. Ran eseutil Brought it online - deleted the deleted items manually and changed the deleted item retention time from 30 days to 6 days. Ran eseutil again - recaptured 5 gigs. Since that day I have the server freeze up several times a day - anyone in Outlook notices - wait a few minutes and everything comes back. If I am at the server I can't even get logged in until it frees up. I have rebooted the server a couple times - no use. The event log reports very, very little. I get a 2078 information error about dsaccess stopping, however this message comes after the slowdown and things are working again - more like a symptom of an underlying problem. I turned up dsaccess logging - no useful info there. Here is the setup: Exchange 2000, sp3 Windows 2000, sp3 dual 1.6 processors 1.5 gigs RAM Compaq proliant, Hardware raid 5 and raid 1 for logs single domain, single site, one exchange server, 150 users running Trend scanmail for exchange Installed Trend Interscan Messaging suite to block spam about 2 weeks ago - however, everything was just fine until the IS reached its limit. Any comments, suggestions or ideas on how to solve this one are appreciated. Thanks. Tim Hooks Columbus, Ohio _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 2002 cmd line switches
Tools - Options - Mail Setup - Send/Receive - Check the box that allows what you want. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Weatherly, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook 2002 cmd line switches Does any one know if there is a command line switch of third party tool for outlook that I could use, to invoke outlook and cause it to perform a full Send/Receive. I know you can set outlook to perform a send/receive every time it opens but that would cause negative effects. Rob Weatherly _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Norton Antivirus for Exchange problems
This is a known issue for NAV3.0. Go to www.symantec.com and read the Knowledge Base there. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Norton Antivirus for Exchange problems Is your NAV mailbox hidden ? (NAV for Microsoft Excahnge - $Name it will be called). That happened to me the last time I had to restart the server. I can't recall whether I had the exact same events, but it's something to check out. Maybe someone was being helpful and hid the mailbox for you? Jim Helfer WTW Architects Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) wrote: Hello All. I've been having problems with my NAV for Exchange for several months now. I can't figure out the problem, partly because I guess I'm not sure how it's supposed to work normally. I came in to work after taking 2 weeks off and this is what it was doing. I don't know if one of the other administrators changed something or not. My NAV for Microsoft Exchange service won't stay running. When I start the service, it starts and will run for a few minutes. During that time, I can use the Web Based Administration to look at settings and such, but after a couple minutes, the Web Interface starts saying the page cannot be displayed. Looking at the service, it shows the service stopped. Then looking at the Event Viewer, here are the errors I get, in the order I get them: [Event ID 107] - Service started: Version 2.17 (Build 75) [Event ID 169] - Email Notifications could not be initialized using the MAPI profile Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange. It failed with 0x80070005. Notifications will not be sent. [Event ID 79] - Service cannot start since the NT account specified is not an Exchange Administrator. Check the account used in 'Services' Control Panel applet and verify that the account has Administrator rights. [Event ID 185] - The service will be shutdown due to an unexpected failure initializing virus protection. [Event ID 169] - Email Notifications could not be initialized using the MAPI profile Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange. It failed with 0x80040111. Notifications will not be sent. I actually get Event ID 169 several times. Now, I've tried several things to fix this. I've ensured the Service starts up using the ExAdmin account and made sure the password was correct and that didn't help. I changed the password and that didn't help. I tried using my account for starting the service and made sure I was an Exchange Administrator and that didn't work. I get the same errors every time. Has anyone ever seen this or know what I may be missing? Thanks. IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer System Administrator/Network Analyst Serving with Pride _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: domain name
I get there without issue. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: domain name We have employee who have offices in other division and they were have problem trying to get on OWA. I ask them to try www.jetproducts.com before accessing OWA and but they were not able to the website. When I try tracert I get Unable to resolve target system name but when I use the dail-up account it work fine. I need a couple of people to test this website for me. Thank You Tony -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: domain name well..let's see Ed...ok it's like seven ways to kevin Bacon. See months ago Tony asked about installing OWA..IIS ect..I remember He had quite the time with it and many questions. The I think he got it...then I think there was something he asked about a problem about it sometime a month later... So then now maybe he is trying to access it from home on his laptop now he wants to somehow be able to use his domain name www.domain.com to get to his OWA server with out the long drawn out line. So now he's testing at home testing his connection to his OWA server at his www.domain.com and appears to be having some type of DNS issues regarding resolving to his domain so we have hopefully establish the connectin to Exchange since OWA relates to exchange and DNS issues can relate to both thus Tony's question potentiall relates to exchange How does it relate to Kevin Bacon? I suspect some one at the ISP or Tony company knows somebody that knows Kevin Bacon.thus resulting it the final potential connection to Kevin Bacon... bill -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: domain name And that has to do with Exchange how? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: domain name Can some show me where I need to start looking We I connect my laptop to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not get to my web page with www.domain.com but I could type in the IP address. When I use a dail-up account I was able to use www.domain.com. Could this be a DNS problem? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange and pop3
Did you check the event logs as Chris suggested? They should tell you everything you need to know concerning this issue. My gut reaction is that the users are NOT logging in with the account name, but instead are using something like their Alias name. Also, do you have cross-over account names? Could you have two accounts with the same name? The event viewer is where you need to be. Once there, find where a user having trouble logging in is and read it! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Hector Cortez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange and pop3 All traffic seams fine.. I know, I know I take all the criticism in a positive way.. I inherited this NOS and am in the process of moving over to mapi. I have just been getting a lot of grief form the coats on why this is happening. As we wall know.. All of corporate end users are not the brightest peas in the pod but somehow they are always right. Just and idea of our layout we have over 3000 nodes on pop3 setups.. Any ideas on the easiest/s fastest way for conversion.. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange and pop3 What errors are in the event viewer on the Exchange server when this occurs? If you run a network sniffer, what does the POP3 conversation look like? POP3 authentication isn't exactly a complex thing telnet mailserver 110 user username pass password You said you are running Windows XP with the POP3 connector. Windows XP is an operating system and a POP3 connector is not a mail client. Did you mean to say that you are running some variant of Outlook with the internet e-mail service? Exchange seems like an awfully expensive POP3 server. On 3/25/03 9:56, Hector Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No they are not.. I have verified all information.. The only conclusion I have found on this was to delete the protective storage in the registry in windows xp, I believe it's a client to server authentication bug -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange and pop3 The users are entering their username or password incorrectly? The users are entering their username or password incorrectly? The users are entering their username or password incorrectly? Why are the users using POP3 to access their mail? On 3/25/03 7:45, Hector Cortez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello.. I have been dealing with this issue ever since we moved to exchange 2000. We are running windows xp with the pop3 connector. several of my users accounts are getting locked out as if they are entering and incorrect password. The users account information (password) is not being recognized my the exchange server. Need to reset password and recreate account on local machine.. Any ideas _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Stupid disclaimers
Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and S***. Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that is beyond me :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Stupid disclaimers Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal criminal law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess. On 3/19/03 9:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEXTERNA E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This transmission is intended to be strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this information. If you have received this in error, please reply and notify the sender (only) and delete the message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE
Is he getting a specific NDR? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE We have a user who cannot send attachments to an address. He can send text but not attachments. I can send to this same address with attachments but he cannot from our server. Any ideas on why I could send to the same address but he cannot? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE
Any limitations on what people can send? Size of file, etc? Can he send just a regular text message to the same address with no attachment? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE It just hangs in his outbox here. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE Is he getting a specific NDR? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE We have a user who cannot send attachments to an address. He can send text but not attachments. I can send to this same address with attachments but he cannot from our server. Any ideas on why I could send to the same address but he cannot? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: user is working at home on ISDN, slow opening attachments
How big are those attachments? Hell, even on the LAN at the office, if someone sends me something with 12MB attachment, it still takes a good 30 seconds to open it. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: user is working at home on ISDN, slow opening attachments this is a direct dial in to the network. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations.....
Although I don't currently use the product I'm recommending, it is on my wishlist for next years buget. http://www.winresources.com JunkJam I really like the way these people have taken the idea of responsibility to the users with this product. Contact Craig Sanders there and ask for a Demo. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Brian Dugas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM blockin software recommendations. Good Morning, I am currently using Trend eManager to block SPAM(in trial version still), it is not appearing to be very effective. What are some other options for blocking SPAM? Thanks in advance. Brian _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Open Relay and E2k
Out of the box, E2K is NOT setup for open relay. Unless you have changed the default settings, you should be fine. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Open Relay and E2k I have a set up an Exchange 2000 server Windows 2000 SP3Exchange 2000 SP3 And I want to ensure that we are not an open relay,I know how to do this in Exchange 5.5 can someone point me to a doc that explains how to do this in E2k? TIA, Joshua Joshua Morgan Method IQ Senior Network Engineer Mobile: (864) 449-9912 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: error 4026
I think a search at www.microsoft.com for 4026 might shed some light on this Richard. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: error 4026 Hello, I just received an error on my server event Id 4026, has anyone ever heard about this error. I think the error has to do with a corrupted queue file. After I restarted the server the event file said that exchange found a corrupted queue and it will attempt to rebuild it. Everything is working now before all my messages were stuck in the IMS Queue. Rich _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: the spam product question
Personally I just forward all my spam mail to Chris and he takes care of them for me, I think everyone should do that :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: the spam product question The what anti-spam solution should I use FAQ answer I've submitted weekly for the last 3 years is A1. The one Chris Scharff recommends for you after a profitable (for him) consulting engagement, where he selects the best product to meet the needs you relate to him surrounding such a solution. I think it should be added soon. On 1/16/03 12:11, Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I know I know, this questions has been asked a million times. My question has a small but important twist. We don't content filter our email here. Now they want to, even though we are less then 6 months away from a Exchange 2000 and/or Exchange .Net migration, but they want to do it anyway. I'm looking for the best spam filter that will run on 5.5 but then will also run on 2000. I dug through the archives a bit but didn't see this addressed. On a side note... They should really add the what anti-spam product should I use? question to the faq. Chow bellas e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: deleting one email
Richard was paying attention and answered the question, let's not get too uppity now :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: deleting one email Huh? On 1/14/03 9:55, Tener, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont know -Original Message- From: Michael Ahlfont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: deleting one email Sensitivity: Private Hello everyone Is there anyway of deleting an email that was sent out to everyone without manualy deleting it from each users mailbox? Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mailbox access permissions
If you are the admin, go in as the user, set the permissions as you want, then logoff as that user. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mailbox access permissions Exchange 5.5 - SP4 Clients: Outlook 2002 running on W2K-SP3 Is there some way to allow access to another person's mailbox without having the user, him/self, delegate permissions? John Orban System Administrator The Country School www.countryschool.org _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mailbox access permissions
Well, I do the same thing from my desktop, I login as whoever I want and do what I need to, then release them back to work. Why not do that, or if you are running WINXP on both sides, set it up that you can take control of their machine. But, in response to your question, I don't believe you can set outlook permissions through the ESM. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox access permissions Situation is we have a new secretary who needs to be able to get access to the inbox of the boss to send and receive emails on his behalf. Same thing with calendar and tasks. I know I can get the boss to add her as a new delegate, but most likely I'm going to have to go down there and do all three machines myself (his and his two assistants). I was just wondering if I could do it from, for example, Exchange Administrator. Just give User permission to the new user (from each mailbox) and then have the new secretary open the mailbox when her copy of Outlook opens. I've tried that and it doesn't seem to work, unless I'm not doing it correctly. If there isn't there should be a tool that does that, seems to me. John Orban System Administrator The Country School www.countryschool.org -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mailbox access permissions If you are the admin, go in as the user, set the permissions as you want, then logoff as that user. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mailbox access permissions Exchange 5.5 - SP4 Clients: Outlook 2002 running on W2K-SP3 Is there some way to allow access to another person's mailbox without having the user, him/self, delegate permissions? John Orban System Administrator The Country School www.countryschool.org _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NDR when meeting accepted or declined
Does this happen on ALL meeting requests, or the ones being replied to that were generated before you 5.5 upgrade? I had this type of issue myself, where people would try and reply to a message or meeting request that was generated before the conversion and would get NDR's. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: NDR when meeting accepted or declined Exchange 2000 (recently upgraded from 5.5) with Outlook 2000 clients Originally, the HR spec would send out a meeting request. Acceptance or decline replies would always generate a copy to HR sec. Now, when that happens, the user would get an NDR saying that the HR sec name/address is not valid. Per our consultants request, I've removed all permissions from the HR spec mailbox. I waited about 4 hours after doing this and then tried the meeting request. Once again, an NDR was generated. I'm at a loss as to where to go now. Does anybody have any suggestions? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: eoo.log files
Our virus system replaced the message body with this text message. The original text contained prohibited content and was deleted.The message has been marked for deletion and the message body, replaced with this text. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disclaimers
Excuse me, I'm not sure this is the right place for this question really. We are exchange admins here, not attorney's :) Although, if you'd like, I'll go ask the City Attorney for her opinion and email you offline :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Disclaimers A recurring topic seems to be about adding disclaimers to outgoing messages and I have seem various recommendations about software to do this. But I would like to know how effective are disclaimers? Do they actually have any legal standing? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: eoo.log files
Not true! I never say anything obscene :) TOM SAVE ME Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: eoo.log files Our virus system replaced the message body with this text message. The original text contained prohibited content and was deleted.The message has been marked for deletion and the message body, replaced with this text. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RBL's
What is RBL? :P Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Oh wait. Never mind Mr. Hummert. I finally understand what is going on. You took my general statements regarding the number of mail administrators who couldn't spell RBL or who didn't fully understand its implications as some kind of a personal attack. I can assure you that I had neither you, nor anyone else on the list in mind particularly when I created those statistics. There are plenty of things on this list which the vast majority of members don't completely understand. Heck, I've got an ever growing list of things I don't understand completely. Not understanding something isn't a sin; jumping willy nilly onto the latest and greatest technology without understanding the pros and cons of it might be. My posts were simply meant to provide a warning to those who might be interested that all that glitters is not gold. Sorry Christopher, this song isn't about you. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions I asked for clarification from Mr. Walsh that I might learn to curb my apparently misplaced anger. How, Mr. Hummert was that rude? -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc;noghri.net] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Hu you being rude to someone elseimagine that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Ok what makes you such a wizard? The cool pointy hat and eye of newt in my toolkit. Who exacty was I rude to? The two people in the thread who I directly replied to?[1] Or did I offend those mail administrators to whom my coments applied for revealing that in this instance they wore no clothes? [1] Close personal friends who wouldn't take offense at my comments even if they had been directed at them. -Original Message- From: Walsh, Ric To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/31/2002 9:31 AM Subject: RE: RBL's Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. Have you though of taking an anger management class? Ric Walsh -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL. The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the implications of the functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it actually works or not. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to comprehend its functionality? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company business. -- Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE EMS Sales Engineer MessageOne 512.652.4500 x-244 -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Still 3rd party. I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night and the current stance on that is that they're thinking about possibly including RBL support in a future release. Darcy -Original Message- From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin;natco-inc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RBL's Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe
RE: RBL's
OH! So we are talking about what's stuck in Chris' beard! Now I understand :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely;TripathImaging.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Reddish Brown Lint??? -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:bobs;LEAWOOD.ORG] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's What is RBL? :P Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff;messageone.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Oh wait. Never mind Mr. Hummert. I finally understand what is going on. You took my general statements regarding the number of mail administrators who couldn't spell RBL or who didn't fully understand its implications as some kind of a personal attack. I can assure you that I had neither you, nor anyone else on the list in mind particularly when I created those statistics. There are plenty of things on this list which the vast majority of members don't completely understand. Heck, I've got an ever growing list of things I don't understand completely. Not understanding something isn't a sin; jumping willy nilly onto the latest and greatest technology without understanding the pros and cons of it might be. My posts were simply meant to provide a warning to those who might be interested that all that glitters is not gold. Sorry Christopher, this song isn't about you. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions I asked for clarification from Mr. Walsh that I might learn to curb my apparently misplaced anger. How, Mr. Hummert was that rude? -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc;noghri.net] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Hu you being rude to someone elseimagine that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Ok what makes you such a wizard? The cool pointy hat and eye of newt in my toolkit. Who exacty was I rude to? The two people in the thread who I directly replied to?[1] Or did I offend those mail administrators to whom my coments applied for revealing that in this instance they wore no clothes? [1] Close personal friends who wouldn't take offense at my comments even if they had been directed at them. -Original Message- From: Walsh, Ric To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 10/31/2002 9:31 AM Subject: RE: RBL's Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. Have you though of taking an anger management class? Ric Walsh -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL. The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the implications of the functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it actually works or not. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to comprehend its functionality? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company business. -- Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE EMS Sales Engineer MessageOne 512.652.4500 x-244 -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Still 3rd party. I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night and the current stance on that is that they're thinking about possibly including RBL support in a future
RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu
Wilson: I have suffered from this very issue, and that was well before I had ANY public folders (no offense Ed). Although I do have full-text indexing turned on, and someone, I think the RUDE GUY told me I should try turning OFF the Full Indexing, re-booting the server, when it's backup, go ahead and turn on Full-text Indexing and reboot again. I can't remember why the RUDE GUY said this, as I was two beers and a few percocets on my way to a good time, but the RUDE GUY did mention that he'd seen or heard of this before, and he'd heard this fix working. Of course, I haven't tried this yet, as I have yet to have a free Saturday since returning from MEC, although I will try, otherwise the RUDE GUY just might come up to KC and kick my arse :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:Wilson.Varghese;KMV.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu So you think this is caused by public folder indexing and not mailboxs? Wilson -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu Have you configured indexing? If you're using that, you should have your public folders on a dedicated server if you're seeing high CPU load. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Varghese, Wilson Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 4:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: mssdmn.exe using high cpu Exchange 2k, sp2, 2gigs ram, 1cpu. (in a native mode child domain) Mssdmn.exe is using high CPU, and when I terminal serviced into the server to see why mail was running so slow, I saw two instances of mssdmn.exe. This has happened before and it goes away after an hour but during that hour, client access to mail and searches are extremely slow. I checked Google and support.Microsoft.com but only hits were for SQL Server indexing issue. Anyone know of any issues with indexing on an exchange 2k server? Any hints would be helpful before I end up calling PSS. Thanks in advance. Wilson _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RBL's
I got some sticks here, and I want you all to come get one so we can all keep beating this dead horse! Come on ya'll, let's drop it and move along. Us regular folk are quite tired of hearing one way and another about this. A good rule of thumb would be, if you don't like what's on the list, remove yourself from it, or, if you don't like someone in particular on the list, put them in your kill-file. Have a pleasant day! Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc;noghri.net] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's Perhaps you should read your e-mails before you send them. Just cause you wrote something down and it sounds one way in your head doesn't meant that it will sound the same way on the other end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's I guess the #include humor.h module wasn't loaded for you this morning. I'd suggest that the spelling remark was only rude to a subset of the 32% of admins who actually could spell RBL and thus understood the barb. As a journalism major, with an English minor I am quite concerned about any grammatical errors I might have made in the comment you are referring to. Would you please be so kind as to point out my grammar errors so that I might endeavor to eliminate them from my future postings? Now, as to your point that my statement that of the 32% of mail administrators who can spell RBL many are unable to comprehend the implications of it: I've made more than 8,000 replies in various public forums in the last 12 months. I've read over 50,000 threads during that same period. It's been a relatively slow year for me, but even if we take those low water numbers back 4 years it's still a fairly substantial number of administrators and posts that I've encountered. Based on that vast experience with and exposure to mail administrators around the world, I find it highly likely that 16% or more of mail administrators don't understand fully the implications of the RBL technology they are using and or advocating. It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. It has to do with being knowledgeable about a particular issue or technology. My comments were not directed at any particular individual user on this list and were more accurately a diatribe against the technology than those who choose to implement it. I'm sorry you chose to misinterpret my comments. -Original Message- From: Walsh, Ric [mailto:Walshr;national-citymortgage.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Ok your spelling remark was rude to all of us. You following remark despite it's poor grammar seems to say that the rest of us are dumber that you. I'd have to say that it was ALL rude. Ric Walsh -Original Message- From: Walsh, Ric Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: RBL's Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. Have you though of taking an anger management class? Ric Walsh -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL. The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the implications of the functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it actually works or not. -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to comprehend its functionality? William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company business. -- Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE EMS Sales Engineer MessageOne 512.652.4500 x-244 -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange
RE: Comp Time Question
Here at the City and being Salary, my boss allows me to take a 1 to 1 ratio for time I work over 40 hours :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brian Dugas [mailto:brian;summit-technical.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Comp Time Question Does anyone know if there is a standard policy out there for Comp Time? I have been asked to find out what other companies do to compensate their employees For working off hours(nights, weekends), beyond their normal workweek. Example: If I have to come in on a Saturday to install a new antivirus package and it take 4 hours, do I get 4 hours off during the week or what? Thanks - Brian Brian Dugas MIS Director Summit Technical Services, Inc. Ph: 401-736-8323 ext. 11 Fax:401-738-9813 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.summit-technical.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SPAM Recommendation
We use SurfControl for our Web Surfers, but didn't look at their Email Package. Since we had already been a user of Symantec's Anti-Virus for Exchange product, we continued with that trend and installed Symantec's new Anti-Virus Content Filtering for Exchange Product. So far it does enough for us, as we are mostly interested in keeping out Viruses, but just recently we were told to stop any messages from leaving or coming in with the F word in it, and it's been doing it very well. I like both companies, as their Tech Support areas are knowledgable and get the problems solved, and while Symantec has a bit more to go before I think their product will be a great product, I would still recommend them. Of course, since I haven't used SurfControls Email filter, I can't speak for it specifically, but I can say their company has a good reputation with me, and they are known for quality products. Thanks, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM Recommendation William, Like I said yesterday... I have been looking at the SurfControl products. They are a little spendy, but if you are a large company, seems to be a product that is well worth the money. Our quote came to right around $60k for 1000 user licenses, support and contracts and the additional plug-ins I wanted. This was a 3-year licensing quote BTW. It does everything you want and more, as well as having the ability to process using a rule base; it's configurable and monitorable from a web interface; you can set levels of administration and assign them to people; it allows you to archive all incoming and outgoing e-mail to a central location; it allows you to add headers and footers to all e-mail and they have one plug-in called a Virtual Image Agent (VIA) that will take all attached graphics files and run them through an algorithm that will check to see how close it is to a pornographic image. Jim -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM Recommendation Any of you have a recommendation on the best SPAM software to put on the Exchange SMTP gateways??? TIA! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SPAM Recommendation
It is the replacement product to be used when you switch from 5.5 to 2K. It has a new GUI interface, so you don't have to mess with registry settings to block new attachments, and also incorporates the Content Filtering system. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM Recommendation I was just reading about Anti-Virus Content Filtering for Exchange yesterday, and I had a hard time figuring out exactly what expanded features it had over NAV for Exchange. Or is it a replacement product? Jim Helfer -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM Recommendation We use SurfControl for our Web Surfers, but didn't look at their Email Package. Since we had already been a user of Symantec's Anti-Virus for Exchange product, we continued with that trend and installed Symantec's new Anti-Virus Content Filtering for Exchange Product. So far it does enough for us, as we are mostly interested in keeping out Viruses, but just recently we were told to stop any messages from leaving or coming in with the F word in it, and it's been doing it very well. I like both companies, as their Tech Support areas are knowledgable and get the problems solved, and while Symantec has a bit more to go before I think their product will be a great product, I would still recommend them. Of course, since I haven't used SurfControls Email filter, I can't speak for it specifically, but I can say their company has a good reputation with me, and they are known for quality products. Thanks, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SPAM Recommendation William, Like I said yesterday... I have been looking at the SurfControl products. They are a little spendy, but if you are a large company, seems to be a product that is well worth the money. Our quote came to right around $60k for 1000 user licenses, support and contracts and the additional plug-ins I wanted. This was a 3-year licensing quote BTW. It does everything you want and more, as well as having the ability to process using a rule base; it's configurable and monitorable from a web interface; you can set levels of administration and assign them to people; it allows you to archive all incoming and outgoing e-mail to a central location; it allows you to add headers and footers to all e-mail and they have one plug-in called a Virtual Image Agent (VIA) that will take all attached graphics files and run them through an algorithm that will check to see how close it is to a pornographic image. Jim -Original Message- From: Williams Scott CTR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: SPAM Recommendation Any of you have a recommendation on the best SPAM software to put on the Exchange SMTP gateways??? TIA! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A Few Good Admins
Thanks for the laugh :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A Few Good Admins USER: I want some answers. LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You want answers? USER: I think I'm entitled to them. LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You want answers? USER: I want the truth! LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You can't handle the truth! We live in a world that has Computers, and those Computers have to be connected by people with a clue. Who's gonna do it? You? You users make me sick. I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for your email and you curse the local administrator. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that this network, while screwed up, and confusing to you, probably saved time. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves time. You don't want the truth, because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us in this office. You need us in this office. We use words like DNS, LDAP, and SCRIPTS...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent playing with computers. You use 'em as a reason to whine. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who surfs and emails under the blanket of the very network I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pickup a mouse and design your own network. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to! USER: Did you shutdown my email? LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You don't want to know. USER: Did you shutdown my file server? LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You don't want to know. USER: Did you shutdown my internet access? LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR: You're damn right I did!!! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
Archives? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet Your point is valid, but like most pieces of useful information will be promptly lost to the archives. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet I concede that loops could have and were caused by OOF pre 5.5. A la Chris, I will also concede that even in 5.5, they could (very low risk) create a loop. Aside from Chris, I still don't think anyone else has ever seen OOF cause a loop in 5.5 or 2K (though I know it is possible). My point (take it with a grain of salt) was simply that many times OOF is blamed for a loop, when it is in fact Automatic replies to the internet combined with another rule that was created. I'm not advocating the use of OOF. I still think there are better ways of handling that. And now I will stop posting on this subject. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resource Reservation
Actually, this is fairly easy to accomplish in E2K. First, setup a user for the resource you are wanting, for this example, Conference Room. Make sure you Mail Enable this new user, and assign it the password you use for your own account. Once this account is setup, login using the assigned password from your machine. Then open Outlook pointing to the new account mailbox. In Options, got to Calendar Options, Resource Scheduling, then choose to accept meetings automatically, and decline meetings that have conflicts. Let Outlook set the permissions as it says it will, then logoff this account. Log back in now on your normal account, and setup a test meeting. Remember to place the Conf. Room in the Resource Box! If you don't, it won't do it's voodoo. If you've done everything right up to this point, you should now see an automated response on your screen that says your meeting has been scheduled. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Resource Reservation Is there anyway to create resources that users can reserve in the calendar for meetings and such. An example of such resources would be a conference room or a certain vehicle etc... Am I asking too much of exchange 2000 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2000 problem, receiving mail
Have you checked your DNS Settings yet? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 problem, receiving mail I forgot to post a couple things. Here goes. A user can send mail thru the exchange server to any other external addresses. But if user A sends a mail to user B that are both on the same server with a mailbox they never get it. If someone from the internet sends to any user on the exchange server it never arrives. So in a nutshell, no one on the server ever receives e-mail no matter where its sent from. But users on the exchange server can send mail to any other mail server and the recipient will recieve it. I have tried to telnet to the exchange server, port 25 and sent mail that way. Same result. If its to a user whos mailbox is on the exchange server they never get it. But if I sent it out to someone on the internet they do receive it. There are no errors in the event log. I am wondering if there is a problem with exchanges information store? This is my second attempt on this network, following a clean install of the OS and exchange. Thought I screwed something up before. But this time was by the book. Same results. I feel like there is something I am missing or neglected to do on setup. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Archives
You can't download the files, you must purchase them from www.swinc.com Look in the FAQ for how to order the archives. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archives Could I get the link to download the zipped archive files ? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archives That could happen. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 11:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archives I actually can, since I have the q2 E2K archives and that was discussed in that time frame :) Now, the big question is, will you allow me to buy you a beer at this years MEC? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archives When and where is the MEC? (Look that up in the archives!) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Archives I just wanted to say what a great things SWINC has that you can get the archives of this list and the E2K list all the way back from 1999. They come in .zip files, but they are .pst files. Once I got things unzipped, I began loading them into a new public folder I created and then told exchange to index that folder so when I need to look something up like OWA and Password Change, I can do it easily. Sure does save me time, and it's great having all that wonderful knowledge always available at my fingertips. If you have gotten your archives CD yet, I strongly suggest you do. Then you won't have to ask questions that have already been asked, you can easily find the answers quickly and without everyone on the list telling you to check the Archives! Thanks, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS This advertisement is not endorsed by swinc or anyone else on this list, but it sure as heck is a damn good idea if you are serious about your exchange environment. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't find those Archives?
People have been asking me offline where they can find those archives I spoke about yesterday. The information is located at www.swinc.com in the FAQ section. I've taken the liberty to reproduce that information here: 1.7 Q: I can't find the archives A: Maintain your own. The 2002 First Quarter CD is now available from Simpler-Webb: 1999-2002Q1 We will need pre-payment of $10 (US) cash or check, $11 (US) for credit card. In-state customers please add 8.25% tax. We WILL NOT reply to any posts to the mailing list on this topic. We accept Visa, MasterCard, and American Express - feel free to call us to order via credit card. The address is: Exchange List CD Simpler-Webb, Inc. 1214 W. Sixth Street, Suite 209 Austin, TX 78703 If you are overseas, please be kind enough to visit http://ircalc.usps.gov and add a reasonable airmail cost to your order. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Archives
I just wanted to say what a great things SWINC has that you can get the archives of this list and the E2K list all the way back from 1999. They come in .zip files, but they are .pst files. Once I got things unzipped, I began loading them into a new public folder I created and then told exchange to index that folder so when I need to look something up like OWA and Password Change, I can do it easily. Sure does save me time, and it's great having all that wonderful knowledge always available at my fingertips. If you have gotten your archives CD yet, I strongly suggest you do. Then you won't have to ask questions that have already been asked, you can easily find the answers quickly and without everyone on the list telling you to check the Archives! Thanks, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS This advertisement is not endorsed by swinc or anyone else on this list, but it sure as heck is a damn good idea if you are serious about your exchange environment. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Archives
I actually can, since I have the q2 E2K archives and that was discussed in that time frame :) Now, the big question is, will you allow me to buy you a beer at this years MEC? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archives When and where is the MEC? (Look that up in the archives!) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Archives I just wanted to say what a great things SWINC has that you can get the archives of this list and the E2K list all the way back from 1999. They come in .zip files, but they are .pst files. Once I got things unzipped, I began loading them into a new public folder I created and then told exchange to index that folder so when I need to look something up like OWA and Password Change, I can do it easily. Sure does save me time, and it's great having all that wonderful knowledge always available at my fingertips. If you have gotten your archives CD yet, I strongly suggest you do. Then you won't have to ask questions that have already been asked, you can easily find the answers quickly and without everyone on the list telling you to check the Archives! Thanks, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS This advertisement is not endorsed by swinc or anyone else on this list, but it sure as heck is a damn good idea if you are serious about your exchange environment. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M Drive
Let's be a bit more clear on this subject. IF you mess around with your M drive, anti-virus, backing up, etc., expect to be doing some fixing. M drive is a virtual drive and NOT to be touched by anything. If you do, you take a great chance of corrupting your M Drive and then the next question you will be asking is, How do I restore my E2K server? hth Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: M Drive Jeffrey, You can you any backup software you like to backup your M: drive, but it is highly un-recommended. The M: drive is a virtual drive looking at the Exchange IS. For any other purpose it is best to leave alone, at the risk of causing database corruption or at least confusion. To backup the Exchange IS you can use the Exchange aware version of NTBACKUP that you get with Exchange installed on Windows, or any number of Exchange aware products specifically designed to backup the Exchange information store, eg: Arcserve, BackupExec etc. You may see an M: drive there, but do your best to ignore it. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: Jeffery Caudill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 July 2002 22:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M Drive What program can I use to Back-up the M drive and, will this make my server have any problems by doing so _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: M Drive
It's in the Information Store. Chant with us allThere is no M drive...There is no M driveThere is no M Drive Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jeffery Caudill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: M Drive My intent is to find out how to backup my public folders, I can only find them on the m drive, is there a way to backup this information, or is it also in the information store. thanks, Jeffery Caudill -Original Message- From: Mike Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Jeffery Caudill Subject: RE: M Drive Jeffrey, You can you any backup software you like to backup your M: drive, but it is highly un-recommended. The M: drive is a virtual drive looking at the Exchange IS. For any other purpose it is best to leave alone, at the risk of causing database corruption or at least confusion. To backup the Exchange IS you can use the Exchange aware version of NTBACKUP that you get with Exchange installed on Windows, or any number of Exchange aware products specifically designed to backup the Exchange information store, eg: Arcserve, BackupExec etc. You may see an M: drive there, but do your best to ignore it. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: Jeffery Caudill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 July 2002 22:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: M Drive What program can I use to Back-up the M drive and, will this make my server have any problems by doing so _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus?
And I use Martin's list to block...blow Martin Blow...It's a good horn to blow Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus? Not to blow my own horn... http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxj.htm OK, I admit it, I am blowing my own horn. -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus? Man, you're serious? You block those extensions? Man you're good dewd!! ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering Celera Genomics [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus? Nope. I block both those extensions. --Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erik Vesneski Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 7:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus? Hi, There is a new virus supposedly in the wild: Attachment: LILAC-WHAT-A-WONDERFULNAME.avi.exe Anyone seen it yet? Thanks, Erik L. Vesneski www.epicentric.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook Web Access
Most likely he was NOT using Internet Explorer and you require Strong Authentication which is only support through IE. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bashir Malekzada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook Web Access I have a user who is trying to check his email thru Outlook Web Access from England ( we are in USA ), he can not login but i tyied his user login and password here and i got in .he was trying from one of these public pc's. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees
But how did Annie compare? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees It was better then CATS. Oh, there's a tough level to aspire too... Little Nicky was better than CATS. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MailBox LIMIT PROBLEM
What's in their Deleted Items area? :) Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: MailBox LIMIT PROBLEM I HAVE SOME USERS THAT DON'T HAVE BARELY ANY MAIL IN THEIR INBOX, AND YET WHEN THEY TRY TO SEND IT GIVES THE A MAILBOX STORAGE ERROR, AND THEY CAN'T SEND. I HAVE CHECKED THE SERVER SIDE OF IT AND THIER ARE NO LIMITATIONS.I went to the mailbox resources and it read total k is 47,111. How can this be when they have nothing in thier inbox . Any help would be appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Replication Message (Ver 6.0.5762)
I got these when we first switched over myself. I found that they were being caused by people replying to messages that were sent from the 5.5 after we had upgraded to E2K. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Replication Message (Ver 6.0.5762) Since I swapped over to Exchange 2000 from Exchange 5.5, I keep getting these messages in my inbox. I assume they have something to do with the Exchange site/directory replication?? What do I do to stop them? The message is: Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Replication Message (Ver 6.0.5762) Sent: 05/30/2002 7:57 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/30/2002 7:56 AM The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address. car.dog.com #5.1.1 Thanks, Arch _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Test
Ed's an Exchange God. Don't believe me? Just wait, you'll see. Oh by the way, if you ever need to move a server, I'm sure you'll want to read Ed Crowley's Server Move method. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Test LOL! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Felicity Smith Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Test Pardon me for asking, but who is Ed Crowley and why should I worship at his feet? --Felicity _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Test
I wouldn't mind being stuck with Ed for a week (Or for 6 months at that). While I know I would seem insignificant and totally unprepared daily while he was at the City, I also realize I would learn more in the week then I have in two years. I can see him now, What the hell are you doing here?, You've done what with your DNS?, The M Drive is a figament of your imagination, don't look at it!. I really would enjoy spending time with an expert scouring over my system, showing me my flaws, and where I could use Exchange to help our City become even more efficient. Alas though, I doubt Ed works for free, and like all other small government operations, we don't have the necessary funds for something like this. I wonder if Ed would work for a week's worth of Krispy Kreme and Coffee? Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Test I was stuck[1] with him for 6 months... -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA [1] Doesn't seem like the right verb, especially with a few members of this list. -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Test Speak for yourself. :) - Original Message - From: Pillai, Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: RE: Test Welcome back. We missed you. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Test Thank you. Internet.com bounced me for some unknown reason and wouldn't let me resubscribe. I had given up but retried yesterday. Ed Crowley hp Services --- Akerlund, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to see that name again here. Hi there Ed! :o) -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Test Because it is there. Ed Crowley hp Services --- Dean Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, because they can.. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2002 5:57 a.m. To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Test Because they want to ? -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: RE: Test LoL... Why in God's name do ppl insist in sending test messages to mailing lists? Filipe Joel de Almeida -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: sabado, 25 de Maio de 2002 5:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Test You passed now get out and enjoy the weekend - Original Message - From: Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Test Test _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email is not an official statement of the Waikato Regional Council unless otherwise stated. Visit our website http
RE: Other Exchange mailing lists?
He didn't say he learned to spell :P Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? that I believe is fish tacos. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 24 May, 2002 12:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? Me...I learned about fisk taco's and some exchange stuff too. -Original Message- From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? Hi there I agree. Yes, there is allot of goofing around - but that is why I have a delete key on the keyboard. I normally just ask questions - I'm still learning. But the day your boss comes to you and asks you to post something on that great newsgroup you're on, it's worth it's weight in gold :). I hope you stay. I think you'll find there is allot of very useful information here. Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? However, 100% of _your_ mail is allowed to be off-topic bitching ? Your insulting characterizations of the membership of this list is not borne out by the many many people that regularly comment on how this list has helped them become a better Exchange professionals. I am one of those. If someone wants to flame me or have some fun at my expense, it's OK. The purpose of my subscription is to maintain the investment my company has made in Exchange, not to maintain my self-esteem. Jim Helfer WTW Architects Pittsburgh PA -Original Mes sage- From: Jon Butler (Mailing Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? This is precisely what I'm talking about. I don't have a problem having fun, but I do have a problem when 70% of list traffic is people being silly. I apologize that my needs do not fit into your sandbox; I'll look for another list. Thanks for being candid with me. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? The carebear list shut down. Too many people were getting the flu from all the hugging. e -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Other Exchange mailing lists? Your solution can be found at the bottom of your email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is more knowledge on this list than you can imagine. We just prefer to have a bit of fun during the day too. It helps make up for the What is ScanMail and what is it used for? Questions. If you don't like it, request a refund and go try the CareBears list. It's down the road and to the left. Tom. -Original Message- From: Jon Butler (Mailing Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Other Exchange mailing lists? Can someone please recommend an Exchange mailing list with more skilled professionals and less comedians? All this useless chatter is driving me up the wall ... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe
RE: Speed
Well, explain exactly what they will be needing. Do they use all the cool bells and whistles that E2K offers? Or are they just wanting email and calendar? If the later, why not just let them use OWA to get to your exchange box and then you don't need to worry about them using Outlook. On the other hand if you are using all the cool things E2K has to offer, doing work collaboration, instant messaging, etc., then they will need to use Outlook. I can tell you that I have ran tests with our system and my cable connection from home, and can make Outlook work fine, but it is a bit slow. Not for me, but for my users who are used to instant likity split connections. If your users need the same type of thing, T1's are great, but if that's the only thing you are using a T1 for, then it might be a bit much. Overall, ask yourself the question, what do your users need? Can they get by with OWA? If they can, just let them do that, otherwise, ask yourself what level of speed can my users take. Good Luck, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 X194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rob Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Speed I'm new to this organization. Currently we have nine Exchange 5.5 servers (450 users) scattered around the country. They're all connected to the Exchange server at our headquarters in Philadelphia. All Internet mail goes through the Philadelphia connection. All the remote sites are connected to us, through the Internet, at various speeds, the fastest being some level of DSL. We're just at the beginning stages of moving our NT- and Exchange 5.5-based network to Win2k and Ex2k. One of the ideas being considered is to consolidate the 9 different Exchange servers into one server housed in Philadelphia. So my questions are: 1. What is the minimum speed you would suggest the remote sites be connected to us? (They'll be using Outlook.) 2. Is it a good idea? We're trying to lower the administrative overhead, and simplify the network. Thanks for your input, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore, MCSE American Friends Service Committee IT Department [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Creating Distribution Group for Exchange 2000
BZZT...I think I see an issue here. You need to make an OU first, then create the DL in the OU you created. I don't think you should be putting stuff into those folders, as they are system folders, and AD assigns stuff to them (or programs do as well) that normally AREN'T shown in the GAL. Try creating an OU, then adding your DL there. I bet that will work :) hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 X194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michel Fayad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 7:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Creating Distribution Group for Exchange 2000 Hi all, I am having some problem creating a Distribution Group for Exchange 2000. Hope someone can help me. We have one Domain (Mixed Mode) with 3 Exchange 2000 Server. We created a Group in AD Users and Computers (Global Group; Distribution; mail enabled), the option Hide from Address Book is not selected. The first problem is that after you create this Group, and you check it's properties, the E-mail addresses shows empty. I have waited for two days, and still it was empty. If you manually add a SMTP address you will be able to send mail to members of this group by typing the e-mail address, but this group will not show up in the Address Book. Any suggestion why this is happening?? By the way, SP2 for Exchange and Windows is installed on the system. Best Regards, Michel Fayad _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
