RE: unhold

2004-01-09 Thread Mellott, Bill
decompose

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Defile

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DeFrag

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DeCrypt

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DeRail

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DePlane 

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DePlane


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DeFlowers

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DePants

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DeThong


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Unhold


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RE: SBS 2003 Tools

2003-12-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
I want to say maybe SBS2003 will goo to 75 these day's...or is that Novell?

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I am over 50 users

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Upgrade to SBS 2003?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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On CD #4 of the Install CD's there lies all of the special features that
makes SBS, SBS. I really like the Backup Tool, and Monitoring Tool.

I have tried to install it on a Windows 2000 server and of course it
says
this is for SBS 2003.

Does anyone have a idea how to port this over to 2000?
The SBS 2003 tools really work well, much better than SBS 2000 did.

Eric


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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Mellott, Bill
and I suppose...Can't we all just get along... is next and maybe
Kumbyha

It's the holiday seasonim thinking Seuss a classic...

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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM
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I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance.

 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM
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Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants to continue this
childish diatribe, take it offline.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:10 PM
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Yes, you certainly schooled me. You are so very witty and clever I could
never hope to compete with such a superior intellect.

An AOL reference? Paaaleeeze.

I get along with my coworkers just fine, thanks for your concern.

Value is irrelevant, hence the point about a philosophical discussion.
Many times, the greatest evils are wrapped in appealing packages.

And yes, I love my fans. With fans like mine, who needs detractors?

 Let's call it 98, but I've been out a while since Exchange was not my 
 focal point in recent years (nor is it now, I just thought I'd smack 
 you around a
 bit.)
 
 Yes I am contributing.  You got that right, genius.  What gave it 
 away, the 'you've got mail' chime?
 
 As far as the philosophical issue goes, you don't seem to have a lot 
 of supporters.
 
 Do you have co-workers?  Do you get along?  I bet not.  And you didn't

 comment on the VALUE of people like Missy, Ed, CTHULU, et al versus 
 what you bring to the table.
 
 I'm done with this.  You lose, and you will always lose.  Have fun 
 with your adoring fans.
 
 began
 
 4-5 years. Ha! That puts you at around 1999-1998. This list has been 
 around since 1994.
 
 This is a philosophical issue about ethics that has been raging for 
 about
 
 8 years or so. I specifically try to avoid the subject, but certain 
 individuals can't seem to let it go. Guilty conscious maybe? Who
knows.
 
 And you are contributing to the continuation of this thread. Welcome 
 to the party.
 

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RE: SBS Setup

2003-12-11 Thread Mellott, Bill
I go by...
Lots of RAM but not more the 2GB
As much CPU as I/they can afford
SCSI disks preferrend but fast IDE for small user count...
SCSI tape drive for sure..20GB dat4
usually default type install

I have not done a W2K3 SBS yet but have 2 scheduled... for like 5 and 10
user shop's
since I havent had to really deal with SBS since 4.5 (ok I loaded sbs w2k3
rc1..it was cool)I still remember it is a bit of a mystical beast and
temperamental I think to the poor sole down the road who has to maybe
fix it after me...
I subscribe to KISS

2 cents bill
PS my 2 DL330 1-2.0Ghzp4/1MB RAM/Dual 80GB IDE 8200RPM Mirrored via the cpw
ML330 built in raid...

insert disk let it load...

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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:25 PM
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All,

I'm trying to figure out what is the best design (hardware wise) for a SBS
server that I will be setting up here in the future.  I'm trying to figure
out what is the best way to maximize the server's resources with the setup.
One question I do have is.  When you setup SBS can you point all the
different applications (E2K3, SQL, Sharepoint etc) do different file
locations? I tried asking the MS Conceirge people but they didn't know as
well.  I was wondering if it would be a good idea to maybe seperate some
apps and put them on their own controllers.  What do you recommend?

TIA,
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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-11 Thread Mellott, Bill
note to self...Dip self in liquid latex piror...if ever meet these guy's
in person

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I heard you have operating privileges at the local bath house. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:31 AM
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Im Dr. Love.
 

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From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:31 PM
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Actually, degree DOES equal title.

One day, I am just ordinary old Jim Blunt.  The next day Washington State
Univ. bestows an honorary doctorate in Computer Engineering, due to some
mythical contributions I have made to the industry.

My signature would now read:

DR. James Blunt, Computer Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:22 AM
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Well, yes, I would expect that to be the extent of your research.

degree  title

 check out other professions and their views on accepting honorary 
 titles.
 
 googling
 Dr. receives honorary degree
 lawyer receives honorary degree
 
 Just for reference.

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RE: New Virus received in Details.zip

2003-12-01 Thread Mellott, Bill
I have in fact I had to tell trend about it...

My first cutting edge I got hammered last week monday been cleaning
since
WORM_AGOBOT.A3

it's a bite...
there was no def on it from anyone and I have yet to figure how it got
inlikely a rogue laptop plugged in..

it's bite's Im crabby

bill

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:56 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus received in Details.zip


I put 691 on my Exchange server on Sat. So far so good, but I haven't seen
any of these new virus's yet. 

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Your welcome.  Waiting on it myself.

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From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:28 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus received in Details.zip

Thanks, Pete.  I forgot their general search eng won't turn up viruses.  One
has to go to the virus enc to search.  I'm surprised that 691 is still in
the CPR state.  Trend usually has them out of CPR within 24 hours.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:34 AM
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I just looked and there is 691 out there but is in test so it must be
manually downloaded.  I also found the virus yaya in their encyclopedia.

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_YAHA.AF

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus received in Details.zip

Are u sure?  Trend says 690 is the latest and a search at Trend's site shows
no hits for yaha.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:34 AM
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Subject: RE: New Virus received in Details.zip


Morning All

The nasty fella is called: Worm_YAHA.AF and you need Trends pattern file
691 to pick it up.

Enjoy your weekend.

clearing the coffee cups and empty pizza boxes Sander

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar 
Sent: 27 November 2003 01:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New Virus received in Details.zip


Hi All

Just a heads up about a new virus (or possibly a variation of an
existing one) we received. The virus executed when a user unzipped the
the details.zip file. Furthermore there was a text file with what looks
like a random letter generated name. We scan zip files, but nothing was
picked up.
The virus disables Trend AV on the client, plus it disables Regedit,
Task Manager and a couple more like those utils. The pc pretty much
comes to a standstill after that.
We are running the latest Trend AV on our Exchange server plus the
latest Office Scan on the desktops. Our pc's are pretty much up-to-date
with Microsoft patches too.
Trend just advised us that they are developing a new patch for this
virus/variation of a virus.

Plse be on the lookout for updates from your AV suppliers.

Regards

Sander


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RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls

2003-11-18 Thread Mellott, Bill
OH my...TMI

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls


Hell, I have two in my bathrooms alone!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls

In my house I have 3 phones. One in the kitchen, one in my office, and one
in my bedroom. All the same number.

I want to have that still. So in my case, going to a single cell really
makes no sense unless I want to carry my phone all over the house. Then when
a call comes in for my wife, having to carry the phone to her. 

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls

Sorry...guess you're right on that point...

Guess I was thinking more along the lines of the having multiple cell
phones with the same number bit.  If you had 3 Cingular phones with
different numbers and a cradle for each, then at least when they ring,
they'd all ring on one number...would save you the hassle of forwarding them
all by hand every day after hours.

BTW...what would be the point of having multiple cell phones with the same
number?  Wouldn't it be kind of annoying to have them all ring, anytime one
of them received a call?  Wouldn't it be simpler to have work pay for your
cell phone, with the authorization to use it for personal use as well?

Or am *I* missing something?  ;0)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls


But you still have to use landline service to have this.
I interpret this as simple call forwarding made simpler.

Maybe I am missing something.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls

Martin,

This first link may be the answer to your problem...it's what I plan on
going to in the near future.  The second link is an option, if you choose to
wait as long as six months.

Call Forward Service Has Many Advantages - Cingular: 
http://tinyurl.com/vd8n

Home-To-Cell Phone Number Transfers OK'd - Coming soon:
http://tinyurl.com/vd8s


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Your PC seized, modem used for LD calls


I haven't had a modem in at least 3 years.

I don't even want a landline anymore, but until someone can come up with a
way to have multiple cell phones with the same number, I'm stuck.

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RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?

2003-11-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
As another note...I seem to remember that IF you are going to go down the
shutdown path...
some dust covers an old rule of thumb I either read/heard/experienced
once...that when shutting down one of the Exch services ..particularlly with
a remote script etc... issue the command three times in the script...

don't ask... again it sticks in the duldrums of my feable mind but it's
there for 55
you could get fancy and write it so it check service state also..which might
help

I could be way off

bill

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wont it just build up at your ISP and then flood your link that way?

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Greetings,
  2K Server, Exchange Server 5.5SP4.

I'm trying to figure out a way to shut down my IMS connector at night to
help
reduce the amount of UCE we get. Our filtering software just isn't doing the
job.
Any ideas besides using the built in Windows Scheduler or the AT service?




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RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?

2003-11-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
Andy shouldn't that be 

(remember click your heals together 3 times and repeat)
net stop MSExchangeIMC /y


since he only wanted the IMC?

bill

Wouldn't net stop MSExchangeSA /y take down basically all of exchange


-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Specifically:
net stop MSExchangeSA /y

( 3 times)




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


As another note...I seem to remember that IF you are going to go down the
shutdown path... some dust covers an old rule of thumb I either
read/heard/experienced once...that when shutting down one of the Exch
services ..particularlly with a remote script etc... issue the command three
times in the script...

don't ask... again it sticks in the duldrums of my feable mind but it's
there for 55 you could get fancy and write it so it check service state
also..which might help

I could be way off

bill

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


wont it just build up at your ISP and then flood your link that way?

-Original Message-
From: vex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Greetings,
  2K Server, Exchange Server 5.5SP4.

I'm trying to figure out a way to shut down my IMS connector at night to
help reduce the amount of UCE we get. Our filtering software just isn't
doing the job. Any ideas besides using the built in Windows Scheduler or the
AT service?




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RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?

2003-11-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
then it's beer time

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Oh man... just shut down the server for the night.


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?

Andy shouldn't that be 

(remember click your heals together 3 times and repeat)
net stop MSExchangeIMC /y


since he only wanted the IMC?

bill

Wouldn't net stop MSExchangeSA /y take down basically all of exchange


-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Specifically:
net stop MSExchangeSA /y

( 3 times)




-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


As another note...I seem to remember that IF you are going to go down
the
shutdown path... some dust covers an old rule of thumb I either
read/heard/experienced once...that when shutting down one of the Exch
services ..particularlly with a remote script etc... issue the command
three
times in the script...

don't ask... again it sticks in the duldrums of my feable mind but
it's
there for 55 you could get fancy and write it so it check service state
also..which might help

I could be way off

bill

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?


wont it just build up at your ISP and then flood your link that way?

-Original Message-
From: vex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Greetings,
  2K Server, Exchange Server 5.5SP4.

I'm trying to figure out a way to shut down my IMS connector at night to
help reduce the amount of UCE we get. Our filtering software just isn't
doing the job. Any ideas besides using the built in Windows Scheduler or
the
AT service?




  --Brett

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RE: Scheduled service shutdowns?

2003-11-13 Thread Mellott, Bill
wont it just build up at your ISP and then flood your link that way?

-Original Message-
From: vex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Scheduled service shutdowns?


Greetings,
  2K Server, Exchange Server 5.5SP4.

I'm trying to figure out a way to shut down my IMS connector at night to
help
reduce the amount of UCE we get. Our filtering software just isn't doing the
job.
Any ideas besides using the built in Windows Scheduler or the AT service?




  --Brett

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RE: webmail

2003-11-06 Thread Mellott, Bill
would that be Lime Jello Shot's?

Lamb..ummm..

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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: webmail


Our special today is lamb shank, brussels sprouts and lime jello. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Subject: RE: webmail

May I substitute rings for fries and add a chocolate malt instead of a pop?



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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: webmail


Would you like to Super size this order sir?

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OIG/HHS
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when i access my webmail i recieve only the parent directory 

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RE: Capturing users' access to OWA

2003-11-06 Thread Mellott, Bill
and there are some tools out there to help you parse those log's if you dont
want to write it yourself...

at least I seem to remember

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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Capturing users' access to OWA


IIS logs 

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From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 1:37 PM
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Subject: Capturing users' access to OWA

Hello folks:

Our environment: native E2k, FE/BE for OWA.

What is the best, most efficient way to track user's access to OWA?  I'm
looking to begin tracking OWA usage (how many users are logging in, how
often and for how long, etc.).  I've read about filtering through the IIS
logs and am just about ready to call into PSS, however, I was wondering if
anyone has come across any other solution.

Thanks in advance!
-Juancho

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RE: Exchange on the road

2003-11-05 Thread Mellott, Bill
VPNsetup OL to do traveling user

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Subject: Exchange on the road


I have a customer that wants to be able to get their inter-office Exchange
mails on the road.  They want to do this from within Outlook.  When I POP
the Exchange server from outside the office, it starts to download ALL his
messages, even those he has already read.  Is there a way around this?  If
I let all the messages download, when he reconnects to the domain, will he
get duplicates?

Thanks,

Steve Cobb

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RE: Exchange Limits

2003-11-03 Thread Mellott, Bill
work all night and a drinka rum!
Day light come and me whanna go home

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Limits


Personal or standard Day0? 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Limits

Other than 0!  g





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From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Limits


It depends entirely on your business needs; that's why you normally get
loads of different answers to this sort of question.  There's no right or
wrong answer.

Neil

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Conversation: Exchange Limits
Subject: Exchange Limits



Exchange 2000 SP3

Any suggestions on setting size limits on both the SMTP virtual server and
on idividual mailboxes?  I had originally set a 4mb limit on the SMTP and
200mb limit mailboxes, which no one complained about for 4 years.  Some
select staff complained and corporate had me remove both limits.

I'm looking for ammunition to bolster my case to reinstate the limits. Do
any of you use these settings, if so where do you set them?

Thanks for your help!

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Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

2003-10-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
Im wondering if there is a way I can e-mail from a command line/script
thru/directly from my exchange box...(Exch55sp4+post, NT4sp6a+post)

Like if I was on my unix box (running sendmail) I might do
uuencode /dr/rpt/rpt.txt |mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and then cron this 

I did see some of a MS tech note(193685) of loading and using the IIS SMTP
svc
to do this... But Id rather not load another svc..etc

SO can anyone one Ya or NA this and/or point me in the direction I need to
go?
basically I need to do a script where I can attach like 3 files to 1 e-mail
and have it go out automatically...every X times a day

thx
bill


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RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

2003-10-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
thx 

I thought about doing a telnet to 25...my Q on that is how would I attach
the 3 files which need to go with the e-mail???

BLAT - I used it a couple times..it's an option...was hoping to avoide
another something if poss..

Ok if I preformat...again how would I attach the 3 files I need to...

More detail:
See Ive got these 3 files I need to attach to the e-mail...2 are excel, 1 is
ZIP. 
these things need to go to an e-mail address every few hours...

thx
bill



-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???


You can use Telnet on port 25, connect to your Exchange server and send
a message.

Or you could use Blat - a great command line utility for sending mail.

You also should be able to drop a preformatted text file into the Pickup
directory. The file format should be like this


FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUBJECT: test

This is a test.
.




Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

Im wondering if there is a way I can e-mail from a command line/script
thru/directly from my exchange box...(Exch55sp4+post, NT4sp6a+post)

Like if I was on my unix box (running sendmail) I might do
uuencode /dr/rpt/rpt.txt |mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and then cron this 

I did see some of a MS tech note(193685) of loading and using the IIS
SMTP
svc
to do this... But Id rather not load another svc..etc

SO can anyone one Ya or NA this and/or point me in the direction I need
to
go?
basically I need to do a script where I can attach like 3 files to 1
e-mail
and have it go out automatically...every X times a day

thx
bill


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RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

2003-10-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
yeah the sendmail does appear to do things like sendmail in unix..
I was just trying to avoide loading yet another something to worry about...
I was hoping there might be some simple something I could do directly with
the exch smtp (IMS) to do this in a script..etc.(without having to do
huge scripting which i bite at)

bill

-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???


yeah... I didn't catch that until too late... I often use PERL with the
SendMail module to send stuff... I believe it supports attachments.. but
don't know for sure... 

 

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

thx 

I thought about doing a telnet to 25...my Q on that is how would I
attach
the 3 files which need to go with the e-mail???

BLAT - I used it a couple times..it's an option...was hoping to avoide
another something if poss..

Ok if I preformat...again how would I attach the 3 files I need
to...

More detail:
See Ive got these 3 files I need to attach to the e-mail...2 are excel,
1 is
ZIP. 
these things need to go to an e-mail address every few hours...

thx
bill



-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???


You can use Telnet on port 25, connect to your Exchange server and send
a message.

Or you could use Blat - a great command line utility for sending mail.

You also should be able to drop a preformatted text file into the Pickup
directory. The file format should be like this


FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUBJECT: test

This is a test.
.




Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email frm Exch at command ln/script???

Im wondering if there is a way I can e-mail from a command line/script
thru/directly from my exchange box...(Exch55sp4+post, NT4sp6a+post)

Like if I was on my unix box (running sendmail) I might do
uuencode /dr/rpt/rpt.txt |mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and then cron this 

I did see some of a MS tech note(193685) of loading and using the IIS
SMTP
svc
to do this... But Id rather not load another svc..etc

SO can anyone one Ya or NA this and/or point me in the direction I need
to
go?
basically I need to do a script where I can attach like 3 files to 1
e-mail
and have it go out automatically...every X times a day

thx
bill


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RE: Using Exchange 2003 ADC for both Exchange 2000 and 2003

2003-10-13 Thread Mellott, Bill
Exchange Svr 2003 Deployment Guide
CH4 pg 49

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Using Exchange 2003 ADC for both Exchange 2000 and 2003


Sure you can, just not in-place.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Using Exchange 2003 ADC for both Exchange 2000 and 2003


You can not go directly to E2K3 from Exchange 5.5. IIRC


From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:54:18 -0400

I don't think you will be able to find a definitive answer to this, but IMO,
I wouldn't use the 2003 ADC to migrate 5.5 to E2k. There seems to be a lot
going on here: W2003 domain, E2k and E2003 servers, migration from 5.5 etc..
Why not just migrate directly to E2003 when you feel comfortable with it
after testing in the lab, and forget the E2k bit entirely?


-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:49 AM
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Subject: Using Exchange 2003 ADC for both Exchange 2000 and 2003


Just upgraded a domain from Windows NT to Windows 2003.  Our next phase will
migrate Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000 with some users going to Exchange 2003
(so it can be proven as a viable endpoint for the migration) using the Move
Mailbox method.

If I use the ADC for Exchange 2003, does anyone know if there are any
gotcha's moving mailboxes from the Exchange 5.5 server to the Exchange 2000
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RE: High Memory Usage for Store.exe

2003-10-06 Thread Mellott, Bill
I could help if you could tell us about the hardware a bit..Proc, HD's ,
RAID? (s), number of users

2 cents
bill

-Original Message-
From: Alex Alborzfard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Memory Usage for Store.exe


Ok, the consensus is: it's normal. 
Ed, I agree on using as much memory as possible, but to the point of making
EX non-responsive?! 
I guess a memory upgrade is in order.

On a somewhat related note, I originally installed Exchange on the System
partition (drive). 
Now it's running out of space. Besides reinstalling Exchange and put it on
another drive, which is not very practical,
since it's a production machine, do I have another option?

--Alex Alborzfard

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Memory Usage for Store.exe


You didn't buy all that memory for it to sit unused, now did you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Alborzfard
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Memory Usage for Store.exe

EX 5.5, SP4 on NT 4 SP6a

Store.exe is showing a high memory usage. The box has 512MB of memory, of
which between 396-400MB are being used by Store.exe. Isn't this too high? 
Besides the obvious (adding more memory), what can be done to improve the EX
performance. With other EX services, AV software and other misc. services,
there is not much Available Memory: between 4-18MB. This has created
problems in sending and receiving, as the server sometimes doesn't respond
in time and just times out.

Thanks

--Alex Alborzfard

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RE: exchange smtp stops responding

2003-10-02 Thread Mellott, Bill
you might want to give us a bit more detail...
example...
1.)I can not send/rec external-internet e-mail
2.) Clients running OL...just kinda of lock up...
3.) Any info in your log's???

sorry your statement is a bit vague
exchange version? server version? Av software? BU software? service pack
levels?
anything else on the box?

2 cents
bill

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From: Eric Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: exchange smtp stops responding


every few days exchange stops sending emails, if i reboot the server
everything is ok for a few days then it starts happening again any ideas?

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RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003 - upgd/mig...

2003-09-30 Thread Mellott, Bill
thanks Ed. Guess Ill just kinda be Leaping
(History Of the World Part I ... comes into mind)


thx
bill


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003 - upgd/mig...


Yeah.  They stole my idea and gave it that silly name.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003 - upgd/mig...

Q to all...after reading part of this thread and being in the boat of
starting to plan my migration and just reading some of the FAQ's

with regard to:
Exchange 2003 server. And the only other option is called the leap frog
migration.  You configure the Active Directory Connector (ADC) for Exchange
2003 between the Active Directory and Exchange 5.5 Directory Service.
Install a new Exchange 2003 server into the enterprise and move the Exchange
5.5 users to Exchange 2003.

Would/is this say similar/akin to doing like Ed's server move method...in
that I guess my main concern would be to keep the SIS of the exch DB's?? add
your just moving over the users mailbox's to the new server...???

Also does anyone know if MS plan's to produce a tool to do a direct type
upgrade from 55 to E2k3?

thanks
bill

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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


Exchange 5.5 is not supported on Windows 2003 server. I don't even know if
it would work. 

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Martin, 

I guess I didn't phrase it right.  If I install Exchange 5.5 on a Windows
2003 Server will that work in an NT 4.0 Domain Architecture?  Thank again.

Mario

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


You are going to need to get your AD infrastructure in place before you
think about upgrading your Exchange server to anything other than 5.5.
So the simple answer is no. You must have AD.

As for your other question, Exchange 2003 will install on W2K or W2K3, but
to take advantage of features like RPC over HTTP, you will need Windows
2003.

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Martin,

Thanks for your response.  Another Question:  When you say build the
new Exchange Server Install 2003 and move the Mailboxes, are you saying
install Exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 box?  But will that work in an NT
4.0 Domain Environment?  Remember, we are still on a NT 4.0 Domain Structure
and moving to AD.


Thanks,
Mario
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


1. Yes
2. No
3. You cant directly upgrade Exchange 5.5 to 2003. If you need to keep
Exchange on the same hardware you will need to upgrade the OS to W2K, then
upgrade 5.5 to 2000, then upgrade 2003 to 2003, the upgrade the OS to 2003
if you choose.
The better solution would be to get a new Exchange server, install 2003 and
move the mailboxes. 

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Have a few questions:

We are currently about to start a Migration to AD.  We have a Exchange 5.5
Server on a Windows NT 4 box.  We are moving the Exchange 5.5 Server to a
Windows 2000 Box due to limitation on the Old Hardware.  After our AD
Migration we are going to upgrade to Exchange 2000 I have a few questions
that I was wondering if anyone can help.

1.  Will Windows 2003 Work in an Windows 2000 AD Environment 2.  Will
Exchange 5.5 Work on a Windows 2003 Box?
3.  Will Exchange 5.5 Upgrade to Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Box or
Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003  work on a Windows 2003 Box that is in a
Windows 2000 AD Domain or a Windows 2003


Would appreciate any assistance.  Or if you could let me know what's
the best migration path to make it easier.  :)

Thanks for your help in advance!


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OWA - NLB

2003-09-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ive got my OWA-55 on a W2k svr...Id like to bring up second and do NLB
between the two svr's...
But from what Ive found so far I can only do NLB with W2K Adv svr...Is there
a way to load NLB to W2K svr standard?

thanks
bill

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RE: OWA - NLB

2003-09-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
Thanks..actually I am about to replace my main switches...
Might you have an Idea which cisco units could do this

PS to All...Actually you can add NLB to W2K stantard..BUT you must purchase
Application Center 2000..which has NLB as one of it's components..and well
then you have to purchase sometype of license cause you are now auth to 1
but hitting many.
the cost of all this work out to be cheaper to purchase Adv Svr...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB


You could do it if you use Cisco and or  Alteon Load balancing switches to 
do Harware balanacing but costs may be the same as upgrading to enterprise 
version of Exchange. Soemthing to consider.


From: Bolser, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:07:08 -0400

Only supported on Win2k advanced server:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/windows2000serv/Default.asp

It's listed under Increased Scalability

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA - NLB

Ive got my OWA-55 on a W2k svr...Id like to bring up second and do NLB
between the two svr's...
But from what Ive found so far I can only do NLB with W2K Adv svr...Is there
a way to load NLB to W2K svr standard?

thanks
bill

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RE: OWA - NLB

2003-09-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
thanks..already did so..just wondering if you had any more input on model's

thanks all

bill

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From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB


You would have to contact the vendor and explain what your trying to 
accomplish and get the latest info. Hardware -vs- Network load balancing 
both have their place.


From: Mellott, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:24:45 -0400

Thanks..actually I am about to replace my main switches...
Might you have an Idea which cisco units could do this

PS to All...Actually you can add NLB to W2K stantard..BUT you must purchase
Application Center 2000..which has NLB as one of it's components..and well
then you have to purchase sometype of license cause you are now auth to 1
but hitting many.
the cost of all this work out to be cheaper to purchase Adv Svr...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB


You could do it if you use Cisco and or  Alteon Load balancing switches to
do Harware balanacing but costs may be the same as upgrading to enterprise
version of Exchange. Soemthing to consider.


From: Bolser, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:07:08 -0400

Only supported on Win2k advanced server:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/windows2000serv/Default.asp

It's listed under Increased Scalability

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA - NLB

Ive got my OWA-55 on a W2k svr...Id like to bring up second and do NLB
between the two svr's...
But from what Ive found so far I can only do NLB with W2K Adv svr...Is there
a way to load NLB to W2K svr standard?

thanks
bill

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RE: OWA - NLB

2003-09-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
Yeh Im finding thatI was just maybe thinking since I was going to get
the new switches maybe I could also get some small NLB for not too many more
 kinda throw into the cisco switch..etc...

Really all I want to do it NLB 2 - WWW and 2 - TS

thanks
bill

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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB


This isn't a standard Cisco switch thing. You would need a Cisco load
balancer. Though I would probably look at F5 first.
BTW, these kinds of things are $$$ 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB

Thanks..actually I am about to replace my main switches...
Might you have an Idea which cisco units could do this

PS to All...Actually you can add NLB to W2K stantard..BUT you must purchase
Application Center 2000..which has NLB as one of it's components..and well
then you have to purchase sometype of license cause you are now auth to 1
but hitting many.
the cost of all this work out to be cheaper to purchase Adv Svr...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB


You could do it if you use Cisco and or  Alteon Load balancing switches to 
do Harware balanacing but costs may be the same as upgrading to enterprise 
version of Exchange. Soemthing to consider.


From: Bolser, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OWA - NLB
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:07:08 -0400

Only supported on Win2k advanced server:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechn
ol/windows2000serv/Default.asp

It's listed under Increased Scalability

-Original Message-
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Subject: OWA - NLB

Ive got my OWA-55 on a W2k svr...Id like to bring up second and do NLB
between the two svr's...
But from what Ive found so far I can only do NLB with W2K Adv svr...Is there
a way to load NLB to W2K svr standard?

thanks
bill

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RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003 - upgd/mig...

2003-09-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
Q to all...after reading part of this thread and being in the boat of
starting to plan my migration and just reading some of the FAQ's

with regard to:
Exchange 2003 server. And the only other option is called the leap frog
migration.  You configure the Active Directory Connector (ADC) for Exchange
2003 between the Active Directory and Exchange 5.5 Directory Service.
Install a new Exchange 2003 server into the enterprise and move the Exchange
5.5 users to Exchange 2003.

Would/is this say similar/akin to doing like Ed's server move method...in
that I guess my main concern would be to keep the SIS of the exch DB's?? add
your just moving over the users mailbox's to the new server...???

Also does anyone know if MS plan's to produce a tool to do a direct type
upgrade from 55 to E2k3?

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


Exchange 5.5 is not supported on Windows 2003 server. I don't even know if
it would work. 

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Martin, 

I guess I didn't phrase it right.  If I install Exchange 5.5 on a Windows
2003 Server will that work in an NT 4.0 Domain Architecture?  Thank again.

Mario

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


You are going to need to get your AD infrastructure in place before you
think about upgrading your Exchange server to anything other than 5.5.
So the simple answer is no. You must have AD.

As for your other question, Exchange 2003 will install on W2K or W2K3, but
to take advantage of features like RPC over HTTP, you will need Windows
2003.

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Martin,

Thanks for your response.  Another Question:  When you say build the
new Exchange Server Install 2003 and move the Mailboxes, are you saying
install Exchange 2003 on a Windows 2003 box?  But will that work in an NT
4.0 Domain Environment?  Remember, we are still on a NT 4.0 Domain Structure
and moving to AD.


Thanks,
Mario
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003


1. Yes
2. No
3. You cant directly upgrade Exchange 5.5 to 2003. If you need to keep
Exchange on the same hardware you will need to upgrade the OS to W2K, then
upgrade 5.5 to 2000, then upgrade 2003 to 2003, the upgrade the OS to 2003
if you choose.
The better solution would be to get a new Exchange server, install 2003 and
move the mailboxes. 

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Windows 2003

Have a few questions:

We are currently about to start a Migration to AD.  We have a Exchange 5.5
Server on a Windows NT 4 box.  We are moving the Exchange 5.5 Server to a
Windows 2000 Box due to limitation on the Old Hardware.  After our AD
Migration we are going to upgrade to Exchange 2000 I have a few questions
that I was wondering if anyone can help.

1.  Will Windows 2003 Work in an Windows 2000 AD Environment
2.  Will Exchange 5.5 Work on a Windows 2003 Box?
3.  Will Exchange 5.5 Upgrade to Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Box or
Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003  work on a Windows 2003 Box that is in a
Windows 2000 AD Domain or a Windows 2003


Would appreciate any assistance.  Or if you could let me know what's
the best migration path to make it easier.  :)

Thanks for your help in advance!


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RE: New Server

2003-09-11 Thread Mellott, Bill
I like the new ML530G2 I got (for my sql app)...12 HS drive bay's room for
the DLT drive...it's sweet...
6304 raid card
did I mention it's fast??? it is

Ok it hurt putting it in the rack alone
now to just get one for exchange and retire the ML350...

I woyuld bet the failure on the 15k drives it heat...especially in s 380
tight...more fans


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Server


A Compaq DL380 G2 (G3 would be better) with one or two CPUs, 1GB of ram

Two 36GB drives in RAID1 for OS, swap,  exchange logs (not the
greatest, but OK for 100 users)
However many 72GB in RAID5 for exchange store.

My personal opinion is to avoid 15K drives - we've had a couple of these
fail.

-Original Message-
From: Vas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New Server


Hi All

Just a quick question, we currently have Exchange 5.5 on a dinosaur of a
server.  We have just started to use scripts and its forever hanging.
We want to upgrade to Exchange 2000 and a new server.

What spec server would you get   for  stableness and resilience i.e.
processing power, HD space, Memory, Raid etc if you need it for-

100 Users in which are all heavily dependant on email as we are becoming
more of an internet and email company Quite a few mail shots to all our
clients  per week Running a few scripts daily

Cheers for input and advice


Vas


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RE: Outlook clients can't connect to Exchange 5.5 via Internet

2003-09-10 Thread Mellott, Bill
right but the bad thing is it sound's like you had/have your exchange server
directly open to the internet


bill

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From: Israel Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook clients can't connect to Exchange 5.5 via Internet


The good thing is that I've recently been testing a VPN concentrator for
remote connectivity. 



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RE: Outlook clients can't connect to Exchange 5.5 via Internet

2003-09-09 Thread Mellott, Bill
ok let me see if I read you right here..
you have your exchange server 55 open to the internet...SO a user can
directly access it using OL..with NO VPN or other..
just direct??? 
which means you have 135-139 open to the internet??? (amoung possible other
ports??)

AND

Now these users can't connect to the exchange server with their OL?

OR 
do you mean you are on some type of WAN, VPN ..etc


bill

-Original Message-
From: Israel Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook clients can't connect to Exchange 5.5 via Internet


I have some remote users who are unable to connect to Exchange via the
internet.  They can ping the Exchange server via hostname or IP address.
Existing users seem to be ok but new users can't seem to connect.  

Thanks for any ideas.


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OT - IMSS white list from exch

2003-08-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
Has anyone done a white list for/in Trend IMSS where.the white list
would be populated from the exchange server? i.e. the valid smtp addresses
used/setup in the exchange server

just a Q
right now exch55sp4+post/nt4sp6a+post

thanks
bill

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RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue

2003-08-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ill throw in 2 cent on this thread.
starting with W2k3 MS has ripped the TS CAL out of XP - W2k Pro.. YOU must!
purchasing it at like 80.00 per TS - CAL

now if your still running W2k..that's another story...and you have been..umm
grandfathered provided you where running W2K TS and those w2k-xp pro
machine had been using TS

Now the above may have changed since like march -may when they told me all
this at a MS thingy for Partners reselling..etc... prior to w2k3 svr
release.umm yes I gave them pleny O stuff on this

Now..for my environment here...which is primary sales..at this time I choose
NOT to let my guy's VPN with there laptops..
evey remote type user uses Citrix-TS session's..work's very well...I is easy
to walk anybody thru setup's problems..etc...likely way easier then if I had
all those VPN tunnels...

BUT true in the future to get more functionallity to my sales guy's those
with Laptops will get VPN tunnels.

For those home office users..they will continue with TS- Citrix sessions


it depends on Yours and your business needs etc.. depending on what you will
design to get the functionality to your users

Im finding I will have soem type of hybrid..to meet the requirements of my
Org..

PS the TS- Citrix stuff..Man I can deploy a new office anywhere in the world
in no time..all I need is an internet connection..bang you have everything
you need..


bill

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


Thoughts from his manager? lol
As in all of these things, it depends on the company. Simple is relative
term and troubleshooting VPN issues with remote users can be a headache in
itself.
I could easily argue that using the NFUSE web interface to access Citrix is
a heck of lot easier to walk Joe Salesguy through at his hotel rather than
trying to figure out why he cant connect to the VPN.
One another note, since hopefully most corporate laptops are using W2k or
XP, there are no requirements to buy TS CALS to access a Terminal Server. At
least for now.


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


 I would disagree. Lets say Joe Salesguy is on a flight. He is working on a
 big sales proposal that needs to go out ASAP. He is meeting with the
company
 the next day.
 Using OL with offline folders he is able to go over past conversations
 regarding the clients needs and thoughts from his manager. Then he is able
 to write the proposal, and have everything ready.
 He lands, gets to his hotel, connects to the net, initiates the VPN and
the
 mail is on its way. His work is done and everyone is happy.

 You could do this with TS, it would just mean a little more work.

 I guess what my thinking is, is why invest all this extra money in TS Cals
 or Citrix CAL's and ask everyone to completely change the way they work
when
 all you really need is a VPN. It would probably cost less and be much more
 user friendly. No changes to their work flow, just a simple icon they
click
 on after they connect.

 Your solution is totally viable. I just don't see the point in asking
 everyone to change their workflow for what is really a quite simple
problem
 and solution.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue

 If you dont have an Internet or RAS connection your not getting anywhere
 regardless of your e-mail client. You have to copy files to your local
drive
 to work on them in any case and thats not really an issue with Terminal
 anymore and its very simple with Citrix.

 Jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


 That's what I kept thinking

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue

 Makes laptop use a little tough though.

  From: Hague, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
 
  Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and
  configuration aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and
  the performance is probably much better than a straight VPN solution.
  I think if you look it at all the factors there is a positive ROI.
 
  Jeff
 
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  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange 

RE: Sobig.F alert

2003-08-22 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ok so Ive got this Q...some of the article say's about it downloading this
Trojan from some server out there
OK so..like does this then mean..that somebody has decompiled this puppy and
found this out
OK wouldn't they have found out where this server out there is?
domain name? ip? somthing?

just Q

bill

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From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Here is some more info on it. Should be an interesting afternoon.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/32475.html

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=1211e=1u=/nm/20030822/tc_
nm/tech_internet_virus_dcsid=95573372

-Original Message-
From: Lori Sagert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sobig.F alert


FYI...

http://www.f-secure.com/news/items/news_2003082200.shtml

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RE: Sobig.F alert

2003-08-22 Thread Mellott, Bill
beer please.Oh and bring the BBQ rib's too...

-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


T-minus 10 minutes .   Its the end of the world run for your
lives...

-Original Message-
From: Sagert, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Yes it is. Since we are not sure what the payload is, we patched for the new
MDAC security patch. Hey, who knows? Better to be safe than sorry. 

T-minus 20 minutes.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Oh crap, I didn't think that anyone actually hooked Skynet up to the
internet.

T-Minus 30 minutes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Here is some more info on it. Should be an interesting afternoon.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/32475.html

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=1211e=1u=/nm/20030822
/tc_nm/tech_internet_virus_dcsid=95573372

-Original Message-
From: Lori Sagert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sobig.F alert


FYI...

http://www.f-secure.com/news/items/news_2003082200.shtml

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RE: Sobig.F alert

2003-08-22 Thread Mellott, Bill
well's that where My q came inChris even put up a piece which said they
new about 20 servers ..18 OFFL, 2 ONL

so then they have ID'd these things right? why not publish the IP and/or the
domain names ..so people could block these too...
it just say's about UDP port ..couldnt that also change on the fly?

bill

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


wouldve been nice for them to publish the IP list so we could block it from
our firewalls.  Incoming and outgoing.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


If only Arnold wasn't running for governor. We could send him back in
time to stop Skynet.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steck, Herb
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


As if we all didn't have enough to do?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


T-minus 10 minutes .   Its the end of the world run for your
lives...

-Original Message-
From: Sagert, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Yes it is. Since we are not sure what the payload is, we patched for the
new MDAC security patch. Hey, who knows? Better to be safe than sorry. 

T-minus 20 minutes.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Oh crap, I didn't think that anyone actually hooked Skynet up to the
internet.

T-Minus 30 minutes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sobig.F alert


Here is some more info on it. Should be an interesting afternoon.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/32475.html

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=1211e=1u=/nm/20030822
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Subject: Sobig.F alert


FYI...

http://www.f-secure.com/news/items/news_2003082200.shtml

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RE: Re-install Exchange 5.5

2003-08-22 Thread Mellott, Bill
password crack the exchange service account
then FAQ for Ed's server move method.

2 cents' 

bill

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Subject: Re-install Exchange 5.5


Yup! Inherited server...I have service account rights to the site and server
but only admin rights to the recipients.  I am able to pretty much do
everything I need to do but the time has come to stop putting off a
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RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-21 Thread Mellott, Bill
You mean in Viruswall.. right
cause I cant find any type setting in the IMSS product...and tech support
was clueless on it

bill

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


Depends on what you have set in the configuration. If you have it set to
NOT look inside zip files, they come right through. I have it set to
look inside the zip files and it rips out the blocked extensions, even
when renamed.  When user's complain about it, I tell them to Password
Protect the zip file and they are happy.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
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Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


sorry my bad...Im running IMSS515..never loaded the viruswall since IMSS
was supposed to be the better..updated version at least that is what
trend told me... I might just load up virus wall and see...

As a note: Scanmail also let's thing thru that are ZIP'd..i.e. EXetc. in
zip files even though you might block them at attachments...

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


Depends on the version I suppose, but the 3.7 and 3.8 Unix versions kill
the files


--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 interesting that the NT product does
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 VirusWall for Unix doesn't pass that through - in fact, I'm
 on a call with a
 user about it now.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions 
 within ZIP??
  
  
  I wish Trends IMSS would DO this
  with the IMSS..if you zip it up it comes right thru...
  so you could send all the EXE's etc...you like to your friends.. 
  it's a bummer
  
  bill
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:23 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions
 within ZIP??
  
  
  It's known behavior (i.e. default and Symantec knows about
  it).  If you
  want someone to send you a zip file that contains a file with an
  extension you are blocking, you can either have them 
  password-protect it
  (which Symantec can't scan - assuming you are not blocking encrypted
  containers), or have them rename the file in the zip. 
  
  
  Ben Winzenz
  Network Engineer
  Gardner  White
  (317) 581-1580 ext 418
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 PM
  Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
  Conversation: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions 
 within ZIP??
  Subject: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
  
  
  
  I am running Symantec Antivirus for SMTP gateways version 3.1.0.29. 
  This has an option to block attachments by extension, but
 this blocks
  files even when they are in ZIP files.  The Symantec (Norton)
  antivirus
  that runs on our exchange server (5.5) has a registry setting 
  to control
  whether or not it looks in ZIP files for bad extension (it 
  always scans
  for viruses in ZIP files). 
  
  Does anyone know how to configure SAV for SMTP gateways to
 allow bad
  extensions when they are stored in ZIP files?
  
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RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
I wish Trends IMSS would DO this
with the IMSS..if you zip it up it comes right thru...
so you could send all the EXE's etc...you like to your friends..
it's a bummer

bill

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


It's known behavior (i.e. default and Symantec knows about it).  If you
want someone to send you a zip file that contains a file with an
extension you are blocking, you can either have them password-protect it
(which Symantec can't scan - assuming you are not blocking encrypted
containers), or have them rename the file in the zip. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
Subject: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??



I am running Symantec Antivirus for SMTP gateways version 3.1.0.29.
This has an option to block attachments by extension, but this blocks
files even when they are in ZIP files.  The Symantec (Norton) antivirus
that runs on our exchange server (5.5) has a registry setting to control
whether or not it looks in ZIP files for bad extension (it always scans
for viruses in ZIP files). 

Does anyone know how to configure SAV for SMTP gateways to allow bad
extensions when they are stored in ZIP files?

Tom
 

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RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
interesting that the NT product does

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


VirusWall for Unix doesn't pass that through - in fact, I'm on a call with a
user about it now.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 I wish Trends IMSS would DO this
 with the IMSS..if you zip it up it comes right thru...
 so you could send all the EXE's etc...you like to your friends..
 it's a bummer
 
 bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:23 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 It's known behavior (i.e. default and Symantec knows about 
 it).  If you
 want someone to send you a zip file that contains a file with an
 extension you are blocking, you can either have them 
 password-protect it
 (which Symantec can't scan - assuming you are not blocking encrypted
 containers), or have them rename the file in the zip. 
 
 
 Ben Winzenz
 Network Engineer
 Gardner  White
 (317) 581-1580 ext 418
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 PM
 Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
 Conversation: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 Subject: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 
 I am running Symantec Antivirus for SMTP gateways version 3.1.0.29.
 This has an option to block attachments by extension, but this blocks
 files even when they are in ZIP files.  The Symantec (Norton) 
 antivirus
 that runs on our exchange server (5.5) has a registry setting 
 to control
 whether or not it looks in ZIP files for bad extension (it 
 always scans
 for viruses in ZIP files). 
 
 Does anyone know how to configure SAV for SMTP gateways to allow bad
 extensions when they are stored in ZIP files?
 
 Tom
  
 
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RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
sorry my bad...Im running IMSS515..never loaded the viruswall since IMSS was
supposed to be the better..updated version at least that is what trend
told me...
I might just load up virus wall and see...

As a note: Scanmail also let's thing thru that are ZIP'd..i.e. EXetc. in zip
files even though you might block them at attachments...

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??


Depends on the version I suppose, but the 3.7 and 3.8 Unix versions kill the
files


--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 interesting that the NT product does
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
 
 
 VirusWall for Unix doesn't pass that through - in fact, I'm 
 on a call with a
 user about it now.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:29 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions 
 within ZIP??
  
  
  I wish Trends IMSS would DO this
  with the IMSS..if you zip it up it comes right thru...
  so you could send all the EXE's etc...you like to your friends..
  it's a bummer
  
  bill
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:23 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions 
 within ZIP??
  
  
  It's known behavior (i.e. default and Symantec knows about 
  it).  If you
  want someone to send you a zip file that contains a file with an
  extension you are blocking, you can either have them 
  password-protect it
  (which Symantec can't scan - assuming you are not blocking encrypted
  containers), or have them rename the file in the zip. 
  
  
  Ben Winzenz
  Network Engineer
  Gardner  White
  (317) 581-1580 ext 418
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 PM
  Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
  Conversation: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions 
 within ZIP??
  Subject: SAV for SMTP Gateways - blocking extensions within ZIP??
  
  
  
  I am running Symantec Antivirus for SMTP gateways version 3.1.0.29.
  This has an option to block attachments by extension, but 
 this blocks
  files even when they are in ZIP files.  The Symantec (Norton) 
  antivirus
  that runs on our exchange server (5.5) has a registry setting 
  to control
  whether or not it looks in ZIP files for bad extension (it 
  always scans
  for viruses in ZIP files). 
  
  Does anyone know how to configure SAV for SMTP gateways to 
 allow bad
  extensions when they are stored in ZIP files?
  
  Tom
   
  
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RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
I think that is the answer to the universe...

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


OK you win. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

42.

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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:40 AM
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 We use 3.

 Cheers

 Paul

 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

 I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email
systems.
 My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable with
 desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is
Symantec
 and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the IS
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RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
yes. but the soup is included with the lunch special

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


Ill take the beef and broccoli, and the fried rice.
Do I have to pay extra for the egg fu yung? 

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Actually, I think you get two engines of your choice for free, and beyond
that they cost extra.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


Check with Sybari, but I believe that when you license Antigen you get one
engine license included.

Hunter 

-Original Message-
From: by [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Does that mean I will have to buy minimum 2 antivirus product if only using
Sybari for the framework?

1 antivirus vendor because I need its engine (eg Norman) and another 1 is
Sybari because I need its framework.

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Sybari focused on developing the application framework. Virus engines are
provided by several 3rd party vendors. There are a number of settings which
can be tweaked with regards to scanning bias to make tradeoffs between speed
and scanning when using multiple engines. 

-Original Message-
From: by [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:06 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Pardon my ignorance here about Sybari product. Doesn't it have its propriery
engine - why use Sophos and Norman Data Defense engine in this instance?

Or perhaps, Sybari has to depend on 3rd party's AV engine ?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgington, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 10:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Three here as well.

Sybari running Sophos engine on the protocol servers (all SMTP mail passes
through them, they are in an NLB cluster)

Mailbox Servers have Sybari with Norman Data Defense

Desktops have NAI McAfee

(Spam is marked by spam assassin on a couple of Linux boxes that sit in
front of the protocol servers)



-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


We have three on most of our customers.  

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 From: Tony Hlabse
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  3 Layers of Virus protection.
 
 I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email
 systems. 
 My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable
with 
 desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is
 Symantec 
 and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the
IS 
 stores too. How many have 3 levels.
 
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RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

2003-08-20 Thread Mellott, Bill
well when my dad was a kid...a milk shake cost 10 cent's

and we liked it!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


I remember as a kid during the summertime. We would be outside throwing
rocks at cars when you would hear the jingle of the ice cream man. Back then
$5 would get you a snow cone and a good sized bag of weed. 

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

That's how I remember it. I love Antigen.



-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Actually, I think you get two engines of your choice for free, and
beyond that they cost extra.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


Check with Sybari, but I believe that when you license Antigen you get
one
engine license included.

Hunter 

-Original Message-
From: by [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Does that mean I will have to buy minimum 2 antivirus product if only
using
Sybari for the framework?

1 antivirus vendor because I need its engine (eg Norman) and another 1
is
Sybari because I need its framework.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2003 1:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Sybari focused on developing the application framework. Virus engines
are
provided by several 3rd party vendors. There are a number of settings
which
can be tweaked with regards to scanning bias to make tradeoffs between
speed
and scanning when using multiple engines. 

-Original Message-
From: by [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:06 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection.
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Pardon my ignorance here about Sybari product. Doesn't it have its
propriery
engine - why use Sophos and Norman Data Defense engine in this instance?

Or perhaps, Sybari has to depend on 3rd party's AV engine ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgington, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 10:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.

Three here as well.

Sybari running Sophos engine on the protocol servers (all SMTP mail
passes
through them, they are in an NLB cluster)

Mailbox Servers have Sybari with Norman Data Defense

Desktops have NAI McAfee

(Spam is marked by spam assassin on a couple of Linux boxes that sit in
front of the protocol servers)



-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection.


We have three on most of our customers.  

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Tony Hlabse
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:39 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  3 Layers of Virus protection.
 
 I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email
 systems. 
 My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable
with 
 desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and spam. Desktop is
 Symantec 
 and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling is to also protect the
IS 
 stores too. How many have 3 levels.
 
 _
 bGet MSN 8/b and help protect your children with advanced parental

 controls.  http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental
 
 
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RE: Exchange 5.5 and Groupshield

2003-08-19 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ok when I used to run GS45 on my exch55..
1.) It scanned everything in the system...I believe it was at the IS type
level...SO it scanned every internal message sent and every incoming and out
going from Exchange...

SO If I had aliases..which I had a couple..it scanned for me

It might/should stop clean something if it was set that way...i.e. is
should grab the virusesIf your using the content filer part it should
grab thatit most times did for me...

that was a while ago...I went with another software...but that's what's
still in my memory about GS45

2 cents
bill



-Original Message-
From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 and Groupshield


I know this is not a 100% exchange question. We are
running 5.5 and Groupshield. If someone sends an email
to an alias on the system, would Groupshield stop it?
We have a user that claims that he is getting email at
his real address that is infected with viruses. This
email gets bounced off the exchange server through
an alias.

Any help would be appreciated.


Tigue

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RE: Exchange (5.5) server not available

2003-08-19 Thread Mellott, Bill
when in dough ghost a known good, over right known bad?

-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 4:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange (5.5) server not available


tried that...still did not fix it for us..made it worse for the particular
client

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (pfeffepe) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange (5.5) server not available


We recently had a problem as well.  The resolution was do de-install tcpip
and re-install on the workstation having the issue.  Have no idea why that
would fix it, but it worked in our cases.

-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange (5.5) server not available

I've had the same problem with a couple of my workstations herecan do
nslookup to exchange server, ping, map a drive, via unc, changed rpc binding
order on the workstation, can have the user move to another machine in same
office works fine, move to another xp machine works fineetc,
etc...ultimately had to reinstall xp. Something is going on with outlook2002
and xpthis is not the only email we've had on this problem...

john

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange (5.5) server not available


This is very strange and I'm at a complete loss as to what the problem is.
As of yesterday, 3 out of 53 computers all connected the same or similar way
with the same OS and Outlook client... are encountering one or more of the
following problems:

Server: Exchange Server 5.5 with latest patches
Workstations: Windows 2000 with SP3 or 4 - all patched for Blaster worm.
Outlook 2002

1. Very long delays in viewing messages at times (though quite often).  The
message, Requesting Data from Microsoft Exchange Server appears and
requires a very long time before it completes.  It's like being on a very
slow MODEM connection.  I have sense attempted to re-establish the client
connection by removing their profile.  Upon entering the client name and
clicking check name, the workstation can no longer see the Exchange server
at all. 

2. Connecting a client (Outlook connecting to Exchange Server setting) is
impossible.  Typing the user name and clicking check name takes over 5
minutes before the message, Exchange Server unavailable appears or
Outlook could not log on. Check to make sure you are connected to the
network and are using the proper server and mailbox name.

All systems can browse the Internet and also
ping the MS Exchange server and telnet to port 25 on the Exchange Server
from both internally and externally.  I've attempted connecting to the
Server's name, its specific IP address... nothing seems to work from Outlook
or its client configuration program.

What has happened since last Wednesday that is causing problems on only 3 of
53 workstations?

I'm at a loss!!

Help please!

SDC

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RE: Filtering pif and scr

2003-08-19 Thread Mellott, Bill
I believe you can Demo both Trend Products and Antigen..by going to their
respective web sites..etc

Me Id get something on that box fast...that's just me...

-Original Message-
From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Filtering pif and scr


Exchange 5.5
NT4

We are getting a lots of attachment with pif and scr today. We do not any
third party filtering software install yet. Can I filter this extension with
Exchange?

Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System Administrator/DBA
Senior Aerospace Jet Products
www.jetproducts.com


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RE: Exchange Blackberry (RIM)

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
Good Technology...Rocks!
Ive got , my sales guy's love it..like almost 100% itergration with
OL/Exchange
once the unit is setup the only time I have to recradle the unit is to do a
software upgrade to the unit..
USA Only a this time..OK it work in Sao Paulo Brazil 

RIM - BB
Im also demoing the BB BES server for coverage outside the USA
BES..ONLY sync's E-mail and Calendar..at this time all else MUST be
cradled to sync - Intellisync...

Im not thrilled with the BES...they say they will have Contacts and other
Wireless sync by Q1 of 2004...

It's no comparison to Good...Now of course the Good device doesn't have a
browser at this time..
each has it's thing

bill

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange  Blackberry (RIM)


Is anyone out there supporting or using RIM's Blackberry service?  Or does
anyone know of alternitive's to the same type of technology?

With their current legal issues I think now would be a good time to jump
ship to something that is a good replacement before we lose the service.

Thanks!

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RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
it's what happens when you've beer goggled too much...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Looking for POP3 Spam solution


What's a google?

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 Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution
 
 Search on Google. I have seen products like that before.


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RE: Exchange Blackberry (RIM)

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
Remeber with the Pocket PC devices..battery life bites..
with the 957 I can get a solid 5 day of heavy usage without recharge

for the G100..they said a day or maybe two less.

with the my BES demo server and 6710 (GSM and phone) I get about 2 maybe 3
day's minimal phone usage..mainly stand by

remember to balance user exp

Note it's NOT a total 100% sync.
for example Ive got my people on MB restriction's...now this can be a
pain..SInce! the delted Items at this time do NOT sync i.e. when my guy's
hit their limit..they cant clean it out..Ive got to do them a favor. and do
it...
Yes it's supposed to come down the pike at some point...

the Word, excel, PDF view cap is cool..but watch your bill's I got some
seriously huge bill's for users running over their monthly MB plan...so
choose your plan's carefully.. I do have to give Cing / Good Kudo's for
giving steep discounts on those users... I didnt have to pay those 1500+ per
user bill's..they disc it nicely...

Also Note: Good can now directly do this setup without Cing and it can be a
bit less $$$

bill

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange  Blackberry (RIM)


Any work on when they would be able to do pocketPC devices?  I would rather
wait till then to move.

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange  Blackberry (RIM)


Same here, Goodlink ROCKS! We started out with 4 handhelds in our IT
department under BES and slowly moved up to 7 with sales execs. Then they
started
wanting to be able to view Word memos attached to emails. We ran into Good
at Interop about that time and were hooked as soon as we saw the software. 

We converted in January as soon as Cingular made nearly free upgrades
available (give you the server and base handheld licenses for the cost of 1
year
support we would buy anyway). We have never looked back. 100% wireless sync,
basic attachment viewing, and soon support for the Treo 600, and PocketPC
smartphones.

Several of our users, myself included, are really looking forward to the
Treo/Palm and PocketPC phone support to just carry a single device around
for email
and phone use.


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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange  Blackberry (RIM)

Good Technology...Rocks!
Ive got , my sales guy's love it..like almost 100% itergration with
OL/Exchange once the unit is setup the only time I have to recradle the unit
is to do a
software upgrade to the unit..
USA Only a this time..OK it work in Sao Paulo Brazil 

RIM - BB
Im also demoing the BB BES server for coverage outside the USA BES..ONLY
sync's E-mail and Calendar..at this time all else MUST be cradled to
sync -
Intellisync...

Im not thrilled with the BES...they say they will have Contacts and other
Wireless sync by Q1 of 2004...

It's no comparison to Good...Now of course the Good device doesn't have a
browser at this time..
each has it's thing

bill

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange  Blackberry (RIM)


Is anyone out there supporting or using RIM's Blackberry service?  Or does
anyone know of alternitive's to the same type of technology?

With their current legal issues I think now would be a good time to jump
ship to something that is a good replacement before we lose the service.

Thanks!

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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ah thanks Miles...well then that would leave me out as I am Open...
Oh well just have to wait for the media.
thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Actually you can unless you are under an open license. If you are on open,
you have to order the media kit. Here is the link for select and enterprise.
Note
you will need your contract info to register for access.

Select and Enterprise licenses:
https://licensing.microsoft.com/eLicense/L1033/default.asp
Once logged in click on the downloads link on the left hand frame. Then you
can search for the iso by product.


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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

that's what I kind'a figured..but since there was that post about there
being one..
but little detail given..I figured Id at least try and see...
my poor rep...
thanks martin

bill

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


There is no site on MS that you can do that. MSDN maybe, but that's not what
you want. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FYI: I contacted my MS rep for the URL and they gave me the
eopen.microsoft.com which appears to be basically useless to download..
and While I like my MS rep he had no clue on any of this so IF anyone else
could shed some light that would be appreciated

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have Open, Select or Enterprise Agreements with MS they have a site
where you can download the Volume Licensing versions of their products.  You
can
contact your MS rep to get the URL.  You'll need to be added as a user to
the site, so contact whoever in your company manages the agreement to have
this
done.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Ok you peeked my Q
what download site.
OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download it
from the site as of that date.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM
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Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Exchange was made available on the 4th?  I havne't seen or heard anything
yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FWIW, should be soon.  It was made available to Volume Licensing customers
as of Aug. 4.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released then
go to it and skip Ex2K?  What we are/planning on doing is to get our Win2K3
AD
completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let exchange keep running
on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3 (OS  EX) and complete the
migration.  I don't see any real advantages in doing an upgrade today, just
so I can do another upgrade in 5 months.
You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come
home using an RC product. Just my thoughts.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003



OK, next question:  If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers (member
servers) with exchange 2000.  And then upgrade to exchange 2003

RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
well yours is definitely bigger then mine

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great.  Just make sure your IS is
not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information
Stores...does brick level also.

Nick Thakkar
Network Administrator
American Medical Response
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
209-993-6974
 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Hello All.

What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000?  Need to do
brick levels too.  I know...management wants the brick levelstried
talking them out of it.

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RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
dont do the BLB... IMHO
If I needed this Id use exmerge and write the script to do it that way

2 cents

bill
PS see the FAQ on BLB


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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


Hello All.

What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000?  Need to do brick
levels too.  I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking
them out of it.

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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
that's what I kind'a figured..but since there was that post about there
being one..
but little detail given..I figured Id at least try and see...
my poor rep...
thanks martin

bill

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


There is no site on MS that you can do that. MSDN maybe, but that's not what
you want. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FYI: I contacted my MS rep for the URL and they gave me the
eopen.microsoft.com
which appears to be basically useless to download..
and While I like my MS rep he had no clue on any of this
so IF anyone else could shed some light that would be appreciated

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have Open, Select or Enterprise Agreements with MS they have a
site where you can download the Volume Licensing versions of their
products.  You can contact your MS rep to get the URL.  You'll need to
be added as a user to the site, so contact whoever in your company
manages the agreement to have this done.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Ok you peeked my Q
what download site.
OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download
it from the site as of that date.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Exchange was made available on the 4th?  I havne't seen or heard
anything yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FWIW, should be soon.  It was made available to Volume Licensing
customers as of Aug. 4.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released
then go to it and skip Ex2K?  What we are/planning on doing is to get
our Win2K3 AD completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let
exchange keep running on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3
(OS  EX) and complete the migration.  I don't see any real advantages
in doing an upgrade today, just so I can do another upgrade in 5 months.
You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come
home using an RC product. Just my thoughts.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003



OK, next question:  If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers
(member servers) with exchange 2000.  And then upgrade to exchange 2003
later?


-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

This month's TechNet included an eval version of Exchange 2003 Standard.

Steven
---
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Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Hey, sorry that I asked this question...  didn't mean to start up a
major discussion.  Simple yes or no would have satisfied my needs. 

However, does anyone know if there is a standard edition of exchange
2003 in bata or rtm at this time?  I have the enterprise edition 120 day
eval copy at this time.  Once I install it, then I will have to use the
enterprise edition (licened version) when the 120 days expires.  

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

Are there any restrictions

RE: Cannot view Mailbox Rights...

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
yes at 300 baudI cant understand why it wont generate anything...Ideas?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot view Mailbox Rights...


Over dialup? 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cannot view Mailbox Rights...

Looking up c1041722 in Technet yields a number of hits.

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From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: Cannot view Mailbox Rights...


Hello All.

Still having a problem viewing Mailbox Rights for users.  When I click on
the Mailbox Rights... button under the Exchange Advanced tab, I get the
following error:

The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service could not find the
specified object
ID no: c1041722
Microsoft Active Directory - Exchange Extension



Any ideas?  Please help.

Thanks

Samantha

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RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
I can do some large number with it but only really in to file mode

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000



I am not doing BLB.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


You're not going to get a gig a minute on BLB's regardless of the HW. 

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote
agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange
server).
I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately
3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great.  Just make sure your IS is
not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information
Stores...does brick level also.

Nick Thakkar
Network Administrator
American Medical Response
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
209-993-6974
 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Hello All.

What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000?  Need to do
brick levels too.  I know...management wants the brick levelstried
talking them out of it.

Thanks


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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
thanks
that would be me..as I am my staff ;-)
I will contact myreseller..agha

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have Open, Select or Enterprise Agreements with MS they have a
site where you can download the Volume Licensing versions of their
products.  You can contact your MS rep to get the URL.  You'll need to
be added as a user to the site, so contact whoever in your company
manages the agreement to have this done.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Ok you peeked my Q
what download site.
OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download
it from the site as of that date.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Exchange was made available on the 4th?  I havne't seen or heard
anything yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FWIW, should be soon.  It was made available to Volume Licensing
customers as of Aug. 4.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released
then go to it and skip Ex2K?  What we are/planning on doing is to get
our Win2K3 AD completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let
exchange keep running on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3
(OS  EX) and complete the migration.  I don't see any real advantages
in doing an upgrade today, just so I can do another upgrade in 5 months.
You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come
home using an RC product. Just my thoughts.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003



OK, next question:  If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers
(member servers) with exchange 2000.  And then upgrade to exchange 2003
later?


-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

This month's TechNet included an eval version of Exchange 2003 Standard.

Steven
---
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Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Hey, sorry that I asked this question...  didn't mean to start up a
major discussion.  Simple yes or no would have satisfied my needs. 

However, does anyone know if there is a standard edition of exchange
2003 in bata or rtm at this time?  I have the enterprise edition 120 day
eval copy at this time.  Once I install it, then I will have to use the
enterprise edition (licened version) when the 120 days expires.  

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

Are there any restrictions on running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2003
platform?


Ron Pennell
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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

2003-08-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ok you peeked my Q
what download site.
OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic...

thanks
bill

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From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download
it from the site as of that date.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Exchange was made available on the 4th?  I havne't seen or heard
anything yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FWIW, should be soon.  It was made available to Volume Licensing
customers as of Aug. 4.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released
then go to it and skip Ex2K?  What we are/planning on doing is to get
our Win2K3 AD completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let
exchange keep running on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3
(OS  EX) and complete the migration.  I don't see any real advantages
in doing an upgrade today, just so I can do another upgrade in 5 months.
You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come
home using an RC product. Just my thoughts.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003



OK, next question:  If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers
(member servers) with exchange 2000.  And then upgrade to exchange 2003
later?


-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

This month's TechNet included an eval version of Exchange 2003 Standard.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The
Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Hey, sorry that I asked this question...  didn't mean to start up a
major discussion.  Simple yes or no would have satisfied my needs. 

However, does anyone know if there is a standard edition of exchange
2003 in bata or rtm at this time?  I have the enterprise edition 120 day
eval copy at this time.  Once I install it, then I will have to use the
enterprise edition (licened version) when the 120 days expires.  

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:48 AM
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Subject: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

Are there any restrictions on running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2003
platform?


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RE: AV/Spam scanning services

2003-08-08 Thread Mellott, Bill
consider this

Ive got the trend suite + IMSS (SMTP gateway product)

Now beside's Martin's list of danger (See FAQ) Ive add a bunch of other
stuff.

i.e. Ive set it pretty aggressively.

here's what I came into this morning:


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Now Ive got to go check me IMSS to why it made it past...

But if I had, had NO AV on my exchange box Id be infected!!
In Fact! before I loaded the trend exchange AV, I had another companies
AV...and well when I loaded the trend It found a bunch of viruses which
where hang'in around

If I could justify the Antigen AV for exchange..IN A heart beat...
In fact Im looking to made change my AV lic and setup to try in squeeze in
the Antigen..

Also Note: IF you only use a gateway AV..what happens when I user brings
something in from Home...they will dispite company policy.
Viruses thru web site's..you get block them all...
Once it's inside you'd be screwed...

I personally would not run a Exchange server without it..in fact same for
any mail server...

but then that's me
It's going to cost you more when something slip's by..it time then the
intial capital cost and yearly service/subscription cost..etc

My 2 cents

bill

,,


I'm considering going with an outside SPAM/AV company.

However, my manager feels that we don't need to put AV on our Exchange
server if we do...so I am considering going just with AV/SPAM on our
Exchange server and keeping everything in house.

I was considering using MX Logic Defense Level 3 and using Antigen on
Exchange server.

I can't convince him that both would be the way to go...both meaning
SPAM/AV outside and AV on Exchange.

Now, I am considering just Antigen with the SPAM agent added to it.

Anyone got any good points about having both SPAM/AV outside and AV on
Exchange that I can bring up to my boss so he can see the added value?

His points were...you mean they won't be able to do it as well as we
can...then we need to not use them!


Thank you,
 
Ron Crumbaker, MCP


-Original Message-
From: Michael Brownell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services


I see the outsourced AV as another layer that gives me greater defense
in depth (I have Trend on every platform). Also their use of multiple
and different AV scan engines gives me another (admittedly small) edge.
I'll take whatever edge I can get, having been hosed by Iluv you and
Funlove. 

One of my concerns about using this type of service is latency. How much
longer does it take a message to get through? Are any of the vendors
better or worse in this regard?

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services

My point is that you're spending money on an internal AV product for
mail (i.e. ScanMail or Antigen) plus the second layer at the gateway -
either internal or external. My caution is geared towards those who
think that they ONLY need the outsourcer for AV.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: AV/Spam scanning services
 
 
 It's not necessarily about saving money though right? Scanning at the
 gateway (in-house or outsourced) can be a valid additional level of 
 protection. A significant number of our customers use some form of 
 gateway scanner[1] in addition to their server and desktop based AV 
 solutions.
 
 [1] MessageLabs, MailSweeper, Trend's Instercan, et al.
 
  From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:10:22 -0400
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services
  
  There are some discussions of a few of them in the archives.
  
  Personally, I'm not a fan of outsourced anti-spam, but
 that's in part
  because we're a heavily email dependent company and so we
 can justify the
  expense of in house measures to combat those issues.
  
  As a side 

RE: Windows 2000 Backup

2003-08-07 Thread Mellott, Bill
ummm that's my stapler...

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Backup


Didn't you get the memo?
Um.yeah, it's just that we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS
reports now before they go out.
So if you could do that... it would be great.


- Original Message - 
From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: Windows 2000 Backup


 Sorry for the confusion I caused.  I mean the W2k NTBackup that comes with
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server when Exchange 2000 is loaded you can see the
BL
 or mailboxes.

 Seems from your message that you use the backup that comes with WIN2k
 server.  How does it work for you.  My management wants the BLBs and I
want
 to know if anyone used the W2k NTBackup for this?

 Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Backup


 Hello Samantha:

 In my opinion, BLBs are not worth 2 cents!

 NTBackup doesn't do BLBs, as Chris said, however, you could use ExMerge to
 export VIP mailboxes (as someone else posted earlier).

 We use W2k NTBackup to disk then another scheduler to write that E2k data
 to tape and it works very well.

 Make sure you have a well-documented restore procedure to go with your
 backup plans and understanding all the different restore scenarios (and
 steps) is key as well.

 Good luck!
 -Juancho





  NT backup doesn't do BLBs. It wasn't engineered by Veritas to have that
  level of uselessness. You'll need to waste good money to get that kind
of
  inefficiency.
 
   From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:20:20 -0400
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Windows 2000 Backup
  
   Hello All.
  
   I noticed that Exchange 2000 can be backed up using the Windows 2000
 Backup.
   Anyone had any experience with this?  It looks like it does BLB too!
  
   Thanks
  
   Samantha

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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

2003-08-06 Thread Mellott, Bill
FYI: I contacted my MS rep for the URL and they gave me the
eopen.microsoft.com
which appears to be basically useless to download..
and While I like my MS rep he had no clue on any of this
so IF anyone else could shed some light that would be appreciated

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have Open, Select or Enterprise Agreements with MS they have a
site where you can download the Volume Licensing versions of their
products.  You can contact your MS rep to get the URL.  You'll need to
be added as a user to the site, so contact whoever in your company
manages the agreement to have this done.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Ok you peeked my Q
what download site.
OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic...

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download
it from the site as of that date.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff,
Michael
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Exchange was made available on the 4th?  I havne't seen or heard
anything yet. 

-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

FWIW, should be soon.  It was made available to Volume Licensing
customers as of Aug. 4.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released
then go to it and skip Ex2K?  What we are/planning on doing is to get
our Win2K3 AD completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let
exchange keep running on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3
(OS  EX) and complete the migration.  I don't see any real advantages
in doing an upgrade today, just so I can do another upgrade in 5 months.
You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come
home using an RC product. Just my thoughts.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003



OK, next question:  If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers
(member servers) with exchange 2000.  And then upgrade to exchange 2003
later?


-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

This month's TechNet included an eval version of Exchange 2003 Standard.

Steven
---
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Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


Hey, sorry that I asked this question...  didn't mean to start up a
major discussion.  Simple yes or no would have satisfied my needs. 

However, does anyone know if there is a standard edition of exchange
2003 in bata or rtm at this time?  I have the enterprise edition 120 day
eval copy at this time.  Once I install it, then I will have to use the
enterprise edition (licened version) when the 120 days expires.  

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

Are there any restrictions on running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2003
platform?


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OT-Exch-Trend 381 -IMSS - Lists?

2003-08-01 Thread Mellott, Bill
Does anyone know if there are any list's for the Trend suite?
Notability the Exchange piece 381 and/or IMSS 5x

thx
bill

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RE: High Availability Exchange 2000

2003-07-30 Thread Mellott, Bill
sure 
but I wont ask why only 3 drives for such a killer box which per the one Im
getting for my new sql app has 12 slot's avalable.. more spindles more
speed...

45's..start the wayback machine insert 8 track...next floor 78's.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: High Availability Exchange 2000


How about we meet at the malt shop afterwards, do our hair and listen to
some 45s?

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: RE: High Availability Exchange 2000


 That's a pretty nice server. That's what I have.

 First off, I would look at Exchange 2003 rather than 2000. Its high
 availability features are MUCH MUCH better than they were in past
versions.

 So, what are your options? Well, Exchange doesn't mirror, so forget that.
 You could always go with Clustering which if we are not talking about
E2K3,
 I wouldn't recommend either. SAN is another option.

 I'm not sure what your cause was for the issue this time, but one thing to
 remember, no matter what you use you will still have at least one point of
 failure, and that is the disk subsystem.

 So what happened anyways?

 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: High Availability Exchange 2000

 Thanks for the reply.

 What I have now is:

 One Server - Compaq ML530
 Dual CPU
 2GB RAM
 3 drives at 36.4 each - RAID 5
 Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 1000 Mailboxes

 Samantha



 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:14 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: High Availability Exchange 2000


 Could you tell us a little bit about what you have now?
 Like what brand of hardware, model, and your current configuration?

 -Original Message-
 From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:14 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: High Availability Exchange 2000

 Hello All.

 Little Background:
 Last week, Exchange 5.5 server went ka-poot early in the day and I was
 unable to recover the IS.  We ended up losing 11 hours of data that was
not
 on a backup tape.  A key member of the management team has had the stance
in
 the past that email is best-effort.  I knew that would fly until the
time
 that messages and calendar info was lost.  I was right!  Where there was
no
 money before has come lots of money to make Exchange high availability.
 Amazing what a little data loss can produce...huh?  Anyhoo, my task now is
 to find information about either SANs, Clustering, Mirroring

 Any suggestions or comments is always appreciated by you.

 Samantha

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RE: OWA 5.5

2003-07-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
I personally found I had to enable the additional languages in the browser
also..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hans-Werner Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA 5.5


Hi,

today I set up OWA for our Exchange 5.5 Server. I copied all language
packs to server but all Browsers show only USA english webpages even when
the chosen language is german.
Must I activate those language packs anywhere?
Or what am I doing wrong?

thx for your help


-- 
Hans-Werner Franz
http://tollernet.de
http://jubis.tollernet.de
http://trischa.tollernet.de
http://nanuk.tollernet.de
http://interspace-networks.de

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RE: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or Tec hnical)

2003-07-22 Thread Mellott, Bill
For me I argued potential restore time.
then there's the time it takes to back it all up...
Also for my users over my WAN links..the smaller their mailboxes the faster
it generates for them on their machines.
then if I want to get crazy and use say exmerge as a kind'a of BLB
.makes it more feasible
then I would say maybe there's the load on the disk array...maybe...
and so on

bill

-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or
Tec hnical)


So how can you give an argument for Size limitations on Mailboxes?

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or
Tec hnical)


Sorry, but recovery time is all there is, along with more pedestrian issues
like does the backup fit on your tapes, and does the store fit on your
disks. Exchange 5.5 deals remarkably well with huge databases.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Rosales, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or
Tec hnic al)


Thanks for the replies but what I am looking for is documentation to show to
mamangement.

Is there any type of Best Practices or any Limitations due to whatever
issues that it would be recommended for an Exchange Mailbox and/or
Information store not to get HUMONGOUS  We are trying to enforce limits
but we need some Document/White Paper that would let us know what we
recommend as max size for an Information store or a Mailbox to use that as a
Point of Discussion of why to enfore limits?

I know that Exchange Standard is 16 Gig, On Enterprise if it can get to a
terrabyte(S) or more?  Why would it not be recommended (Have large I/S and
mailboxbes) besides Recovery time would be slow?  What other points can be
brought up that are DOCUMENTED of why not to have such a large information
store or Mailboxes?

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Mario

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or
Technic al)


Enterprise edition?  The limit is measured in TB.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:
80/support/kb/articles/Q240/1/52.ASPNoWebContent=1 documents this
- Original Message -
From: Rosales, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:33 PM
Subject: Exchange 5.5. Enterprise Size Limitations (Recommended or Technic
al)


Does anyone know of a Document, whether written by Microsoft or by someone
else that states the How big an Exchange Information Store can get(Whether
recommended or technical limitation) and what the Limit of a Mailbox Size is
(Whether for technical reasons or Limitations of tools)  If anyone can
help out I would appreciate it.

This is for Exchange 5.5

Thanks,
Mario


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RE: Routine Maintenance

2003-07-21 Thread Mellott, Bill
me Im no guru like the other people here...
so I let the server do it
Exchange does the defrag itselfso to me Defrag..done...check
Backup... my backup goes  every night -full Backup...check done (note NO
BLB!!)
my Exchange awhere AV checks for it's updates every 4 hours...check done...

My Exch55sp4 box, NT4Sp6a+post, veritas 8.6, DLT drive, CPQ 1850R
It run's run's and run's

OK once it a great while I reboot it
some times I look at my log's..some times I dont

If I had my act together all the time..Id do a test DR once in a while...or
so...

I try not to fix it if it aint broke...
now where is that hammer..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Routine Maintenance


Hello All.

Just curious what kind of maintenance you all do on Exchange and what kind
of schedule for maintenance is best or recommended.

Is the only maintenance running an Offline Defrag once a month?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000/XP clients

Thanks!

Samantha

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
the way I look at it..is IF i load anything  new on a server then I should
figure I need to re service pack it.

especially anything which interacts that tightly with the OS

actually you didnt need to bother with the 2.0 then 3.0 to 4.0
you could have jumped right to 4.0 on the option pack.

2 cents 
bill

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll). I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: Exchange and SQL

2003-07-15 Thread Mellott, Bill
And remember time is money...

bill

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and SQL


Sell the SQL box eBay.
Use the proceeds to buy two new servers that are more appropriately sized to
your environment.
Have a beer.

:)

I doubt you'll have any performance issues, but you will at some point
encounter downtime issues.  In addition, you will be complicating your
environment buy having two very complex services on one machine.  It could
make troubleshooting more difficult.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and SQL


We have an SQL 2000 server with quad processors, 4 gigs of ram, and 3 raid
configurations with about 200 gb of hd space that's basically being used
to run a 2 gb database for about 20 users that will never grow.  My boss
thinks we should move our exchange 5.5 server (about 120 users) to this
box (going to Exchange 2000 in a few months) because it's not being
utilized fully.  Other than the if we lose SQL we lose Exchange theory,
why else is this a bad idea?  Thanks in advance, Scott.

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RE: Exchange and SQL

2003-07-14 Thread Mellott, Bill
to me if they are both mission critical app's leave them on separate boxes.
why make your life harder and the potential failure for the business greater
then it needs to be...
machine are inexpensivetime is not...

my shop it about that same sizeI wouldn't do it...I like the KISS
principal .. to me certain things just should be shared...

maybe in an inexpensive DR home grown type thing, lab..etc...production..no
thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and SQL


Move Exchange to this box, move SQL to the old Exchange server? 

-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and SQL

We have an SQL 2000 server with quad processors, 4 gigs of ram, and 3 raid
configurations with about 200 gb of hd space that's basically being used
to run a 2 gb database for about 20 users that will never grow.  My boss
thinks we should move our exchange 5.5 server (about 120 users) to this
box (going to Exchange 2000 in a few months) because it's not being
utilized fully.  Other than the if we lose SQL we lose Exchange theory,
why else is this a bad idea?  Thanks in advance, Scott.

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RE: Internet Email

2003-07-11 Thread Mellott, Bill
I'm a simpleton..
but from your description it sounds to me like you have each and every
client workstation pop'ing their mail from your third party...

We do not have IMS
running on Exchange but have been able to send and receive internet
email for years. 

maybe your third party updated/changed something? 
maybe it may thinks your trying to relay thru them (I've had troubles with
covad's mail servers think that on occasion)

maybe a quick telnet to the POP and SMTP server on the third party to see if
you can communicate with it in general??

just some ideas
 bill

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email


What does the NDR say?

-Original Message-
From: Rob Talkington III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:19 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Internet Email
Subject: Internet Email


This is the first time I've posted here and I couldn't find a search
function.

I use Exchange 5.5 SP4 and Outlook 2000 clients.  We have our email
hosted by a third party but use Exchange locally.  
Monday I came in and for some reason no one can send internet email
anymore.  Receiving it is fine but sending it generates a Non Delivery
Report immediately after clicking on Send.

I did not change anything on Exchange the weekend prior.  I have
searched many discussions and cannot find an answer that pertains to our
problem. 
Any advice would be much appreciated!!

Thanks!

Rob

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RE: A bit off topic - Multiple apps on 1 server

2003-07-09 Thread Mellott, Bill
I agree totally with Ed...and avoid too many app's on one box 
(I've got boxes with just 1 app that's a pain) 
I recently did have to do such a  thing..(and break my own person rule of
never!)

W2K Svr, (DHCP, F/P, IIS) sp2+sp2postfixes
faxination Device (fax ports back to my Faxsvr)
Surfcontrol Web filter
Trend Server Protect
Trend Office Corp (for local user AV, mng..etc)
APC pwrchute for UPS
VNC

DL380, int RAID, dual 36GB, 1.5GB RAM...

doesn't sound bad does it??? ummwish that was the case...does it finally
run?? Yes..stable? 95% (that's good for all that fluff there), actually Ill
jinx myself...it's just been running..took 3 loadeds to get it just
sobut one app requires I mess with it manually cause it's config
interface doesnt want to run right..pain...

Hey it's an offcie of like 12 people, if it survives and goes to more
people..will I put in another box and divide it up ...you bet! in a heart
beat...
But it will definately depend on the app's and how the play together...

Would I do it from the start for say 30+ people..no way...share some
..yes..totally no.. especially if it's got to communicate with other machine
on the end of some WAN type thingy

2 cents
bill

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A bit off topic - Multiple apps on 1 server


I don't personally like the idea but it's what Small Business Server is all
about, albeit for a smaller office population.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Protecting the world from PSTs and bricked backups.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miller, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

All,

Excuse me for the slightly off-topic inquiry. We are currently rolling out
Exchange 2000 - we have about 10,000 users in several locations - 150-300
users per office on average. We run the Exchange 2000 servers also as Domain
Controllers, with the addition of DNS and DHCP. Everything works just fine,
but now the CTO wants to start doing an Office in a Box concept - where we
load tons of additional apps on this server. Sort of like Small Business
Server - but with additional licenses (more than 50), and not all the apps
are Microsoft. I thought we were being a bit risky having Exchange on the
same server as a DC, DNS, and DHCP. Does anyone have any advice on this? Bad
idea? Terrible idea?

Thanks 

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RE: Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus Software for Exchange

2003-07-08 Thread Mellott, Bill
I dont have that many users myself...but I did a while ago and change to
Trend's Suite of products
Desktop-Servers-Exchange-IMSS(gateway)
after having run Mcafee for 3 years here and looked at Symantec and Antigen,
and a couple others..

IF I had the budget... Hands down I would have used Antigen for my Exchange
and SMTP gateway. And Trend for everything else.
As I sit I have trend for everything..and Must say I like it VERY much...
features are really nice, product is good to excellent.
I have only found one problem/feature with  IMSS which is potentially a
significant problem for me.
I like it, Id use it again...I recommend itit's a very complete suite,
and good preformance..etc.

2 cents
bill

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus Software for Exchange


Hello All.

Current Configuration:
Exchange 5.5
Windows 2000 Advanced Server (One server)
OWA
CA AntiVirus
CA ArcServe (w/blb)
19GB IS
900 Users


Currently I run all services for Exchange on one server.  I know, I know,
and I have paid the price more than one late night coming in to reboot
because services are failing.  Most problems came when ArcServe started the
brick-level backups (again I knowcannot convince Mgmt. to stop brick
level backupseven with 30 day retention settings).  When the BLB started
it would knock out OWA or worse, slowing backups to a crawl taking 36 hours
to do a brick level backup. Also, when doing virus updates, brick level
backups would again fail.  When it comes down to it, probably too many
services running on one server.  

I have recently convinced my management to purchase another server for
Exchange so that I may move some services from the primary server to a
second server.  The services that I will be moving to the additional server
(additional server will be outside the firewallprimary server inside
firewall) are OWA, IIS/HTTP, SSL, SMTP Gateway and the IMC.  

My question:

I am not sure what kind of Antivirus and Antispam software to purchase and
where to put it.  As I understand it, Computer Assoc. does not sell a
product that will scan just the IMC.  Trend has a product called Interscan
Messaging Security Suite that will scan the IMC box as mail comes and goes
through it.  Trend's ScanMail for Exchange scans the IS which is good but do
I really need it if I am scanning on the second Exchange server IMC? 

I would appreciate your comments positive or negative.  

Thanks in advance!

Samantha

 

 

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RE: Server Feedback

2003-06-30 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ive used both Dell's and CPQ's..I like them both very well and service for
both as always been good to excellent.
Have messed with some IBM too and it also seems to be good..

Me I'll keep using the CPQ till HP mess's with the works...(since it's all
CPQ here right now...)..then Ill go to Dell

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Server Feedback


Have not used Dell servers, but HP Proliant servers are excellent
hardwares...

Brian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cooke, Brian
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Server Feedback


All,
We're looking at our options for a new exchange server.   On the
hardware
side of things we're leaning towards Dell.  We have never used Dell
before
though, so I was curious if any one has any feedback as far as Dell
servers
are concerned and how their support is?

Thanks in advance for all your responses.


Brian

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Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP

2003-06-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
I need something that can block specified file types contained in ZIP
files..
i.e. if a say EXE...etc.. has been ZIP into a file attachment on an e-mail I
need to block it..

Alas...my Trend suite does NOT! (disappointingvery!)

rec's from anyone??? please
FYI: presently exch55sp4.
But I prefer a gateway type thingy..but on the box would do also.

yes I requested Trend to add the feature..but no guarantees they
will...sigh...bummer...

thanks!

bill

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RE: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP

2003-06-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
thanks

No I was kind'a hoping they might add it to IMSS

Dont know If I can get the $$$ Antigen..will have to see...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP


Antigen will do it.

I spoke to Trend about this yesterday and they said it is a limitation of
the program (whatever that means). I would not look for them add any new
features to their E55 versions of Scanmail. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP

I need something that can block specified file types contained in ZIP
files..
i.e. if a say EXE...etc.. has been ZIP into a file attachment on an e-mail I
need to block it..

Alas...my Trend suite does NOT! (disappointingvery!)

rec's from anyone??? please
FYI: presently exch55sp4.
But I prefer a gateway type thingy..but on the box would do also.

yes I requested Trend to add the feature..but no guarantees they
will...sigh...bummer...

thanks!

bill

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RE: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP

2003-06-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
IMSS 5.12..true while it will allow attachment blocking.
IF say the EXE in questions is zip'd up..NG it passes right thru
It does get scanned for vireses...BUT hey...Im a bit of a dictator...NO
EXE..etc.. period! in my system

so now people have a way of getting around the EXEetc attachment
block...just ZIP it up and it's in!

bill

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP


What version of Trend are you running?  All of the versions I know about
from Trend allow file blocking based on file extension.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rec on Blocking Files types contain in ZIP


I need something that can block specified file types contained in ZIP
files..
i.e. if a say EXE...etc.. has been ZIP into a file attachment on an e-mail I
need to block it..

Alas...my Trend suite does NOT! (disappointingvery!)

rec's from anyone??? please
FYI: presently exch55sp4.
But I prefer a gateway type thingy..but on the box would do also.

yes I requested Trend to add the feature..but no guarantees they
will...sigh...bummer...

thanks!

bill

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RE: how to cut down on spam

2003-06-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
Death and Taxes = 100%

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Nothing in life is ever 100%. I would be worried about any company that
claimed their product worked 100% of the time

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


edoxs blocks 0% legitimate messages because they verify all entries in
their filter are spam.

Regards,
Orin




-Original Message-
From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Well, you can set up the spamfilter to quarantine the filtered messages
for later review and if there should be a legitimate message it can be
retrieved.

I don't think there are any spamfilters which blocks 100% spam and 0%
legitimate messages.

Freddie

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2003 16:46
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It seems
 much more expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL.
 Can anyone mention any differences? We definitely don't want 
 to block real customers from sending us email--just the spam.
 --- Freddie Soerensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Maybe you want to take a look at this : 
  http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
  
   
  It is easier to change the specification to fit the
 program than vice
  versa. 
   
  
   
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
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   Hi all...
   
   We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
  receive a
   lot of spam in the company. My company does not
  want to buy
   any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
  there anything
   built into exchange that will help reduce the
  spam? Is there
   anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
  that will
   reduce the spam?
   We are also running GroupShield.
   
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exch 55 pub cal Q

2003-06-16 Thread Mellott, Bill
Sorry if this is been ans..before...havent found it on technet yet.

a Calendar put in the PUBLIC FOLDERS  ALL PUBLC FOLDERS

I'd like to assign permissions based on groups to this cal...

I even tried it NG..if I assign each user OK...

Ex.
But say I have 10 users in a group: GROUP1
and I assing GROUP1 permission to the cal...
None of the 10 user can get to this cal...
only if I assign usres one at a time.

What am I missing here?

thanks
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RE: exch 55 pub cal Q

2003-06-16 Thread Mellott, Bill
Unable Disp folderdo not have suff permissions on object..

What I dont know is if it should or shouldnt read into a GROUP to find the
user object to then allow permission

User object - OK
GROUP - NG

thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exch 55 pub cal Q


What error do they get?
Is it a top level folder, or buried under others?
Does the group receive permissions correctly on any other public folder?

etc

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:27 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: exch 55 pub cal Q
Subject: exch 55 pub cal Q


Sorry if this is been ans..before...havent found it on technet yet.

a Calendar put in the PUBLIC FOLDERS  ALL PUBLC FOLDERS

I'd like to assign permissions based on groups to this cal...

I even tried it NG..if I assign each user OK...

Ex.
But say I have 10 users in a group: GROUP1
and I assing GROUP1 permission to the cal...
None of the 10 user can get to this cal...
only if I assign usres one at a time.

What am I missing here?

thanks
bill


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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-12 Thread Mellott, Bill
Depends on your company and what they need.
Here: If it's E-Mail and if it does pass thru my Trend box first then to my
Exchange box
I don't allow it...Yes that includes Web based e-mail accounts too...I block
all that too...
IM blocked toomost downloading also...my list goes on

but that's just here...I've been other place where its a free for
alldepends on the company..
if they don't think of it as job security

0.02

bill

-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


List,

This might be more appropriate for a firewall/security list but it
involves email and I don't belong to one of those yet so I'll post my
question here.  I'm curious as to how many of your companies allow
internal clients to access POP mail externally.  The reason I'm asking
is because I see POP mail as security risk.  Let me explain.  Our
firewall strips all but a few attachments from our incoming SMTP email.
With POP however attachments cannot be striped leaving a hole for new
virus that aren't detectable yet by our virus software.  I'm going to
try to talk management into letting me block POP.  Is blocking incoming
POP something other company do?  Is there some other way to secure
incoming POP mail?

Matt




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RE: Strange Question

2003-06-11 Thread Mellott, Bill
Make him carry a pager...wire it too him so it can shock him.

write a rule that forwards e-mails from identified VIPS to the pager.
thus he will know about it when it forwards to the pagerprovided you
wire him correctly..

-Original Message-
From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


All of these are great points but I guess it comes back to why does he want
this so I can give him what he wants.
Will pry further.

Avi


-Original Message-
From: David J. Culliton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


If the explanation is correct - why not a rule that pops a dialog box on
the desktop informing of the important email?

-Original Message-
From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


Thanks, but for whatever reason this is what he is on now.



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


If it's so urgent why is he sending it via e-mail. Why not just call?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Avi
Smith-Rapaport
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


I was explained that it is more for urgent email from certain people.

Like if the owner emailed to my boss something that needed to be done it
would pop up in his mail box vs. someone sending him an idiotic joke. To
me it just seems like a crutch for someone who isn't doing their work in
keeping up with email if that is part of their responsibilities.

I am not to know the true reason behind this, for whatever secretive
reason, I know I know how ridiculous and how can I give someone what I
don't know they want, but alas, this is where I am asking for advice for
the gurus.  You guys read minds right?

Avi



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Question


As with many things, it all comes back to Ed C.'s quote.

The bigger question for Avi to pose to his boss is what is to be
accomplished here?  Is it to track that a user is sitting at his/her
desk?  To ensure that emails get read?  To ensure that tasks get done
within 20 minutes?  What is the business goal that is to be
accomplished?  Mebbe there is a better solution that can be offered
instead of an email kludge.

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I envision a solution like this:
 
 Boss points browser to a web server with a CGI app (perl, vb,
 whatever)
 where he enters a recipient (or picks a pre-entered recipient - that 
 would help ensure it wasn't abused) and types his message. This app 
 sends the message (via CDO or SMTP) and creates a flag (flat file, 
 database record, etc) that records the time sent and the recipient.
 
 The app appends a URL to another app that the recipient clicks on to
 acknowledge the message. This deletes the flag.
 
 Yet another app (not web based, but scheduled to run every few 
 minutes) checks for flags and resends reminders.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Strange Question
 
 
 Alright...
 That didn't go over so well.
 He is sticking to his guns and is throwing this into the mix.
 
 2 willing participants.
 Meaning, let's say that Erik decides he will accept this type of 
 request from me so if I choose to I can send him an email and mark it,

 respond in 20 min, then if he doesn't respond in 20 minutes to me then

 it will re-email, or pop up a window on his pc whatever. The two 
 willing participants definitely seems more like something, no? It 
 seems to me like when he gets and email from certain people he wants 
 it to go to some reminder type of a system although the sender is the 
 person that would set the reminder intervals. confused?
 
 
 Avi
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:31 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Strange Question
 
 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore?
 Can we go to mount Splashmore?
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 Can we go to mount Splashmore? 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:50 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Then tell him you 

RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message

2003-05-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
so then..and Im sure Im a bit off...
but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB disk...
(Exchnage main and PUB of different disks)

if I gave each user say 100MB mail box...
so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out)
which say would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk...
(no system space taken in too account for the example)

now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB...

Now here are some Q's

1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit
if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP exch?

2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB.
if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB disk
still has 2.5GB free???
Note yes users would scream and cry...whats new

3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and RECEIVE
potential

4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) = 300MB
then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD space of
15GB and stop exchange???


thanks
bill



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num
(which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd
certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I
also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a
user is approaching limits.

While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's
been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and
well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR
should be of concern. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


Exch55sp4 + postsp4

If you have the  Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user
is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR
about receiving user

So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal
behavior

Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User
over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way

It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of
you more experienced with this beast..Think...

anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3?

it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was
over quote..etc...

thanks
bill

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RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message

2003-05-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
thanks! chris


bill

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got
mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone.

2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it?

3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all
that important.

4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail
bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are
insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors
and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the
system.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


so then..and Im sure Im a bit off...
but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB
disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks)

if I gave each user say 100MB mail box...
so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say
would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space
taken in too account for the example)

now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB...

Now here are some Q's

1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit
if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP
exch?

2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB.
if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB
disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats
new

3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and
RECEIVE potential

4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) =
300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD
space of 15GB and stop exchange???


thanks
bill



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num
(which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd
certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I
also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a
user is approaching limits.

While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's
been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and
well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR
should be of concern. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


Exch55sp4 + postsp4

If you have the  Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user
is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR
about receiving user

So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal
behavior

Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User
over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way

It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of
you more experienced with this beast..Think...

anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3?

it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was
over quote..etc...

thanks
bill

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RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message

2003-05-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all?
why would one use it...???


bill

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


thanks! chris


bill

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got
mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone.

2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it?

3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all
that important.

4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail
bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are
insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors
and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the
system.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


so then..and Im sure Im a bit off...
but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB
disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks)

if I gave each user say 100MB mail box...
so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say
would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space
taken in too account for the example)

now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB...

Now here are some Q's

1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit
if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP
exch?

2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB.
if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB
disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats
new

3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and
RECEIVE potential

4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) =
300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD
space of 15GB and stop exchange???


thanks
bill



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num
(which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd
certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I
also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a
user is approaching limits.

While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's
been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and
well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR
should be of concern. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


Exch55sp4 + postsp4

If you have the  Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user
is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR
about receiving user

So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal
behavior

Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User
over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way

It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of
you more experienced with this beast..Think...

anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3?

it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was
over quote..etc...

thanks
bill

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RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message

2003-05-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
ok I get the second idea...but Im not clear on the mail loop

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


I use it to stop mail loops and keep departments from using a 'receive
only' mailbox as a filing cabinet.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:08 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


P.S. Then why use the Send and Recieve Prohibit at all?
why would one use it...???


bill

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


thanks! chris


bill

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


1. no send/receive limit is probably a bad idea. If one user got
mailbombed it could stop Exchange for everyone.

2. The odds of all users being mail bombed is pretty low isn't it?

3. You've not taken into consideration SIS, but it's not necessarily all
that important.

4. It would if you believe you have a legitimate threat of being mail
bombed, but if that is the case then mailbox limits alone are
insufficient protection and you should be looking to disk space monitors
and performance related counters to help safeguard the integrity of the
system.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:47 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


so then..and Im sure Im a bit off...
but say you have 125 users.standard exch(55)...the PRIV on a 15GB
disk... (Exchnage main and PUB of different disks)

if I gave each user say 100MB mail box...
so 100MB * 125 users = 12.5GB (if all users are max'd out) which say
would leave me ~ 2.5GB of free room on the 15GB disk... (no system space
taken in too account for the example)

now if say I set the SEND LIMIT at 75MB...

Now here are some Q's

1.) NO...Send and Receive Limit
if all users got mail bombedwouldnt if fill the 15GB disk and STOP
exch?

2.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to say 100MB.
if all users got mail bombed...wouldnt Exch keep running since the 15GB
disk still has 2.5GB free??? Note yes users would scream and cry...whats
new

3.) Am I miss calculating and - of miss understanding the SEND and
RECEIVE potential

4.) If I set the Send and Receive Limit to 4x the send limit (75MB) =
300MB then would it 125users * 300MB = 37.5GB wouldnt that exceed the HD
space of 15GB and stop exchange???


thanks
bill



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


I've set the prohibit receive limit for my users to be 4x $large_num
(which also happens to be their prohibit send number), so they'd
certainly be aware of problems _long_ before they hit a sending limit. I
also monitor mailbox sizes and proactively take care of issues where a
user is approaching limits.

While the error message for this issue isn't particularly pretty, it's
been the same since Exchange 4.0. With a proactive management style and
well reasoned limits, I'm not sure that the actual text of the NDR
should be of concern. 

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:51 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message
Subject: Q -Exch55 Prohibit SND/RCV message


Exch55sp4 + postsp4

If you have the  Prohibit Send and Receive limit set... AND the user
is at the limit the person sending the user a message.get's a NDR
about receiving user

So from checking Technet (Q238498)..this would appear as the normal
behavior

Um my Q is thiswhy wouldn't it send a message type say User
over quota...etc yeh..I know cause MS coded that way

It just makes me think a bit..and I was just curious about what those of
you more experienced with this beast..Think...

anybody know if MS changed this type of thing in E2K3?

it seems to me to make more understandable sense if it said the user was
over quote..etc...

thanks
bill

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RE: Exchange locks up

2003-04-03 Thread Mellott, Bill
me..I might/I do have mailbox limits thus..I dont get to the problem your
having...
I would do what I did and set mailbox limits thus protecting the system.

You'll be unpopular..or at least I am here...but I feel it's one less system
thing to worry about..
and the system just run's, the user education is not much fun...cause they
want what they want when they want it
yeh I have a few less users then you but about the same...

of course I could be way off base..Im no exchange guru..

$0.02

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange locks up


Why? How does that solve the problem I have today? I only have 150 users and
do not anticipate the store will grow over 16 gigs again.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange locks up


Buy Enterprise Edition.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange locks up


Hello All,

Last Wednesday, one week ago, without any warning our information store
stopped - reached the 16 gig limit. What I did not know was that the 16
gigs is a total of both the .stm file and the .edb file. I do not know
if the public folders contributed to the 16 gigs or not as ours only
account for 100 MB.

My first gripe - you would think there might be a warning message or two
in the event log before it shuts down!?

Anyways I knew we were getting closer to the limit and I helped some
people get their mailboxes cleaned out in the 2 weeks previous. Here are
the steps we followed. Rebooted. IS still would not load. Ran eseutil
Brought it online - deleted the deleted items manually and changed the
deleted item retention time from 30 days to 6 days. Ran eseutil again -
recaptured 5 gigs.

Since that day I have the server freeze up several times a day - anyone
in Outlook notices - wait a few minutes and everything comes back. If I
am at the server I can't even get logged in until it frees up. I have
rebooted the server a couple times - no use. The event log reports very,
very little. I get a 2078 information error about dsaccess stopping,
however this message comes after the slowdown and things are working
again - more like a symptom of an underlying problem. I turned up
dsaccess logging - no useful info there.

Here is the setup:
Exchange 2000, sp3
Windows 2000, sp3
dual 1.6  processors
1.5 gigs RAM
Compaq proliant, Hardware raid 5 and raid 1 for logs
single domain, single site, one exchange server, 150 users running Trend
scanmail for exchange Installed Trend Interscan Messaging suite to block
spam about 2 weeks ago - however, everything was just fine until the IS
reached its limit.

Any comments, suggestions or ideas on how to solve this one are
appreciated.

Thanks.

Tim Hooks
Columbus, Ohio

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RE: Script execution via e-mail?

2003-04-03 Thread Mellott, Bill
For me my question is why would I do it manually when I could have my DHCP
server do it for me and for everyone..

very interesting...different systems and all...

bill

-Original Message-
From: Patrick R. Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Script execution via e-mail?


How are you going to find an exchange server if your WINS settings are
wrong?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Parrnelli GS11
Ben T
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Script execution via e-mail?



Exchange 5.5 SP4
NT 4.0 SP6 SRP
Outlook 2000

I'm in the process of changing WINS addresses on remote machines via a
script.  I know I'm not going to get everyone in the domain the first,
second, or tenth time I run this script, however, and am looking for
ways to streamline the process.

Has anyone here ever created a mailbox that a user could send to that
would execute a script?  For example, I'm sitting at my machine 'NTPC1'
and didn't get the WINS change.  I can't change it myself, as I'm not
admin on the local box.  However, all I need to do is send a blank
e-mail with 'WINSCHANGE NTPC1' in the subject and the script will be
executed on my machine.

Anyone?


Ben Parrnelli
Network Administrator
Comm  Data Directorate
MAGTF Training Command
29 Palms, CA 92278

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RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall

2003-04-02 Thread Mellott, Bill
mongo like candy..

like his DHCP server to dole out WINS server assignment
manual file bad...
mongo lazy

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 and firewall


Fire good.
lmhosts bad.

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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall


Hey it's all inside!!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 and firewall


lmhosts? 
Gag me with a spoon! 

- Original Message - 
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall


OK so wins should resolve this. Or can I use lmhosts. It appears one
user is running outlook 2002 And performance is much better.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall


Slow client opening is about 95% of the time DNS related - your clients
are having issues accessing DNS.

It could be that they're accessing DNS and getting your public IP
address for the mail server, and they're going through the router to hit
Exchange.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall
 
 
 Using standard 192.x.x.x. and 255.255.255.0. There are no wins. Pretty

 simple set up single server running exchange and 1 database program. 
 This works great. I don't think I need to open any addiotnal ports 
 since everyone is behind the firewall and the server is recving email!

 Fire wall is a soinicwall soho3 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 and firewall
 
 
 Check your subnet and make sure they are correct for Class B or C or 
 how ever you did it.  Also check all your DNS and WINS to make sure 
 the clients are routing properly
 
 Alex
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Quick questions. Running 5.5 sp3 nt4.0 sp6. Server was not behind 
 firewall running on public IP's. Yesterday installed Firewall 15 
 wkstations (win98 outlook 2000) and server behind firewall. Gave 
 everyone Private Ips and a 1 to 1 nat for exchange ip address.
 
 Everything works internally but outlook on the win98 clients became 
 very slow opening. Most units get the server not available retry Or 
 work off line. I can retry and outlook will eventually hook up but it 
 is way to slow. Is there something I missed. Do not need access to 
 exchange server from outside the network
 
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RE: domain name

2003-03-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
well..let's see Ed...ok it's like seven ways to kevin Bacon.

See months ago Tony asked about installing OWA..IIS ect..I remember He had
quite the time with it and many questions.
The I think he got it...then I think there was something he asked about a
problem about it sometime a month later...
So then now maybe he is trying to access it from home on his laptop
now he wants to somehow be able to use his domain name www.domain.com to get
to his OWA server with out the long drawn out line.
So now he's testing at home testing his connection to his OWA server at
his www.domain.com and appears to be having some type of DNS issues
regarding resolving to his domain

so we have hopefully establish the connectin to Exchange since OWA relates
to exchange and DNS issues can relate to both thus Tony's question
potentiall relates to exchange

How does it relate to Kevin Bacon?
I suspect some one at the ISP or Tony company knows somebody that knows
Kevin Bacon.thus resulting it the final potential connection to Kevin
Bacon...


bill

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


And that has to do with Exchange how?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: domain name


Can some show me where I need to start looking 

We I connect my laptop to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not get to my web page with
www.domain.com but I could type in the IP address. When I use a dail-up
account I was able to use www.domain.com. Could this be a DNS problem? 

Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System Administrator/DBA
Senior Aerospace Jet Products
www.jetproducts.com


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RE: domain name

2003-03-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
well if your in there might as well play nice and fix it for him

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


He said his external testing was working, I figured I'd test things for him
on his internal network...  ;o) 


-Original Message-
From: K J Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Bad, bad, Don.

Just test his name resolution with DNS and get on back home like a good lad.

+++
  Kathy
  http://www.vendetta.co.uk
  DNRC  Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
+++
- Original Message -
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: domain name


 I'm on your internal network, now what?


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 We have employee who have offices in other division and they were have 
 problem trying to get on OWA. I ask them to try www.jetproducts.com 
 before accessing OWA and but they were not able to the website. When I 
 try
tracert
 I get Unable to resolve target system name but when I use the dail-up 
 account it work fine. I need a couple of people to test this website 
 for
me.
 Thank You

 Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: domain name


 well..let's see Ed...ok it's like seven ways to kevin Bacon.

 See months ago Tony asked about installing OWA..IIS ect..I remember He 
 had quite the time with it and many questions.
 The I think he got it...then I think there was something he asked 
 about a problem about it sometime a month later...
 So then now maybe he is trying to access it from home on his laptop
 now he wants to somehow be able to use his domain name www.domain.com 
 to
get
 to his OWA server with out the long drawn out line.
 So now he's testing at home testing his connection to his OWA 
 server
at
 his www.domain.com and appears to be having some type of DNS issues 
 regarding resolving to his domain

 so we have hopefully establish the connectin to Exchange since OWA 
 relates to exchange and DNS issues can relate to both thus Tony's 
 question potentiall relates to exchange

 How does it relate to Kevin Bacon?
 I suspect some one at the ISP or Tony company knows somebody that 
 knows Kevin Bacon.thus resulting it the final potential connection 
 to Kevin Bacon...


 bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: domain name


 And that has to do with Exchange how?

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:31 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: domain name


 Can some show me where I need to start looking

 We I connect my laptop to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not get to my web page with 
 www.domain.com but I could type in the IP address. When I use a 
 dail-up account I was able to use www.domain.com. Could this be a DNS
problem?

 Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 System Administrator/DBA
 Senior Aerospace Jet Products
 www.jetproducts.com


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RE: domain name

2003-03-27 Thread Mellott, Bill
On a similar note..Yes you may very well need to add the entry to your
private DNS server.
As I had to do this for mine...Why?
I dupped my domain internally... so my domain server thinks everything I
need to resolve is
equipname.snd.com

BUT my web site
ww.snd.com is hosted by out side ISP...thus I put an entry in my DNS
servers.. pointing
www to my external web

www CNAME www.snd-electronics.org

But note...As mentioned a few threads agoDNS and win admins..
I tend to be a windows admin more often then other(unix..etc)...so I could
be off on the DNS thing.
I did get scolded one time by Wcom tech support on my DNS serversthis is
just works for my network

bill

PS. My domain has not been changed to protect the innocent  ..as Im often
not...anybody worth their salt could find somebodys domian namesooner or
later...



-Original Message-
From: Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


This sounds similar to a problem I've been having on my network for a long
time. 

My website was changed from http://www.cnsl.navy.mil/ships/dd989 to
www.deyo.navy.mil. This was all done by the external hosting that we go
through. Well, after they changed it to www.deyo.navy.mil, from within my
local network, we can't get to our website. Our local DNS server resolves it
to our local Intranet web page. I'm thinking I need to add a static entry in
the DNS server to point to the actual web site? Maybe this is the same sort
of issue?

IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
System Administrator/Network Analyst

Serving with Pride

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


I charge for those kinds of services!! 


-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

well if your in there might as well play nice and fix it for him

;-)

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


He said his external testing was working, I figured I'd test things for him
on his internal network...  ;o) 


-Original Message-
From: K J Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Bad, bad, Don.

Just test his name resolution with DNS and get on back home like a good lad.

+++
  Kathy
  http://www.vendetta.co.uk
  DNRC  Minister for Useful but Irritating Information and Trivia
+++
- Original Message -
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: domain name


 I'm on your internal network, now what?


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 We have employee who have offices in other division and they were have 
 problem trying to get on OWA. I ask them to try www.jetproducts.com 
 before accessing OWA and but they were not able to the website. When I 
 try
tracert
 I get Unable to resolve target system name but when I use the dail-up 
 account it work fine. I need a couple of people to test this website 
 for
me.
 Thank You

 Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: domain name


 well..let's see Ed...ok it's like seven ways to kevin Bacon.

 See months ago Tony asked about installing OWA..IIS ect..I remember He 
 had quite the time with it and many questions.
 The I think he got it...then I think there was something he asked 
 about a problem about it sometime a month later...
 So then now maybe he is trying to access it from home on his laptop
 now he wants to somehow be able to use his domain name www.domain.com 
 to
get
 to his OWA server with out the long drawn out line.
 So now he's testing at home testing his connection to his OWA 
 server
at
 his www.domain.com and appears to be having some type of DNS issues 
 regarding resolving to his domain

 so we have hopefully establish the connectin to Exchange since OWA 
 relates to exchange and DNS issues can relate to both thus Tony's 
 question potentiall relates to exchange

 How does it relate to Kevin Bacon?
 I suspect some one at the ISP or Tony company knows somebody that 
 knows Kevin Bacon.thus resulting it the final potential connection 
 to Kevin Bacon...


 bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: domain name

RE: Quick question re backup

2003-03-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
Along with martin I might ask...

1.) Umm What is your total Drive capacity?
2.) Of the total capacity how much is in use?
3.) IF say IN USE is say =/less then 40/80GB I would think it should fit.
Note: Remember compression is a funny thing and often is not going to work
the way you may think...i.e. somethings just dont compress..kinda
4.) have you worked with your block size in BE for the tape drive..etc..Ive
found that can make a big diff in performance..etc...
5.) What is and is not backing up...I think maybe some more details might
help others reading your post here.
6.) Is the box only exchange or is it say file and rpint too.???


2 cents

bill
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick question re backup


How big are the stores? 


-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions



Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000:
If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft
exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up
program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program
files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory?
I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but
I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all
our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled
(otherwise software).  
I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but
cannot find a definitive answer on this.
Thanks
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RE: Slow posting to lists

2003-03-25 Thread Mellott, Bill
I can say that my exchange server seems to dislike AOL addresses

-Original Message-
From: Lum, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Slow posting to lists


Silly thing - anyone else ever have messages take 2 hours to go to this list
and other messages take no time...??? Other Internet mail for me flows
quickly, but occasionally posting to this and the W2K list lag WY
behind...although I get incoming and replies to other lists back quickly.

Dave I don't think I'm SPAM Lum - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sr. Network Specialist - Textron Financial
503-675-5510


-Original Message-
From: Lum, David 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and pop3


Disable account lockout is a band-aid and shouldn't be the fix.

Do the event logs show where the lockout are coming from? The same PC's that
have the problems? What e-mail client are you using?

Dave Lum - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sr. Network Specialist - Textron Financial
503-675-5510


-Original Message-
From: Hector Cortez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 09:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and pop3


Thank god.. Now I know im not crazy.. I have tried to disable the
account lockouts but due to audit purposes I cannot .. Have you ran into
any fixes or workarounds until I convert to mapi

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and pop3


I've seen this with Exchange 5.5 as well.  Never could figure out why it
was happening.  Why not just disable account lockouts?

-Original Message-
From: Hector Cortez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and pop3


hello.. I have been dealing with this issue ever since we moved to
exchange 2000. We are running windows xp with the pop3 connector.
several of my users accounts are getting locked out as if they are
entering and incorrect password. The users account information
(password) is not being recognized my the exchange server. Need to reset
password and recreate account on local machine.. Any ideas

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-21 Thread Mellott, Bill
The one strong point I always thought was good for the outsourcing part was
that
that much less stuff came over my link to the internet..thus idealy helping
to manage bandwidth.

Now on the other hand I could never find an out sourcer who could give me
the granularity I needed/wanted

2 cents
bill

-Original Message-
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: postini spam control


At 08:38 21-03-2003 -0600, you wrote:
anybody have any information or tried Postini for their spam control. we
have looked at all the major players and we are thinking about surfcontrol
but these people called us up and gave a good pitch.  I guess we point our
mx records to them, which i'm not sure I like, and then they scan it for
spam and forward it on to us. I've looked through the archives and didn't
find any info, which is probably all I need to know, but I thought I would
present it again to see if anyone has any comments.

This week we talked about putting a Linux box with Sendmail between you and 
the internet. You can use spamassasin and have everything in house. One of 
the advantages is that you do have full control about what gets caught and 
you can always access the probably spam mailbox to see if spamassasin was 
a bit 'trigger happy'.

I did hear (on the SBS2K list) about gfi mailessentials which seem to have 
a pretty good anti spam util too.. it runs on Windows.


B.


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RE: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?

2003-03-19 Thread Mellott, Bill
I had a LC3, with a RAID card directly from Mylex (same model as the one the
LC3 could have come with) since the RAID card was NOT the one from HP the
card firmware was not tweaked by HP thus the LC3 hated the card and was
source of problems...it got replaced


bill

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?


I'd do all the firmware updates you can, specifically on the RAID
controller. It sounds like that might be the source of the problem.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?
 
 
 Hi all.
 
 one of my Exchange 2000 back-end servers is HP NetServer 
 TC4100. It is pretty new, it only has been in production for 
 a couple of months. Dual 1.4GHz CPUs and 4GB RAM. NetRAID-2M 
 raid controller, RAID1 + RAID1 + RAID5. Onboard 100Mbs NIC. 
 Currently there are about 350 mailboxes on it.
 
 OS is Windows 2000 SP3. Exchange 2000 is up to SP3.
 
 Every few days the POS freezes and I have to cold boot it. I 
 think it usually does so when I back up Exchange with Legato 
 networker. But the other day it froze in the middle of NTBackup.
 
 I hope that someone in here maybe has had good experience 
 with HP Netserver machines to point me in the right 
 direction. I myself is a Proliant type of a guy.
 
 Thanks!
 
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RE: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?

2003-03-19 Thread Mellott, Bill
do not forget to make sure you have sometype of backup.

I find I usually hose myself this way when I think it will be a simple 2
second fix...then hours later.

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?


thank you everyone for great ideas!

Gotta go put my flame retardant suit on and tell the users their server will
be going down for 15 minutes or so :)

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?


I used to work at a testlab that worked on prototype HP netservers and
other products. Whenever we had a single problem we would swap out the
NetRaid card. If you have a spare one give that a try. If not then I
would recommend making sure the firmware was updated. If that doesn't
work for you then what slot is it installed in? If it's in #5 move it
over to a more reliable one like #3. (I don't know why this works but it
does) Do you have any other HP cards installed in there? Some of them
have a notorious history of not getting along.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: kind of OT: what's wrong with my HP server?


Hi all.

one of my Exchange 2000 back-end servers is HP NetServer TC4100. It is
pretty new, it only has been in production for a couple of months. Dual
1.4GHz CPUs and 4GB RAM. NetRAID-2M raid controller, RAID1 + RAID1 +
RAID5. Onboard 100Mbs NIC. Currently there are about 350 mailboxes on
it.

OS is Windows 2000 SP3. Exchange 2000 is up to SP3.

Every few days the POS freezes and I have to cold boot it. I think it
usually does so when I back up Exchange with Legato networker. But the
other day it froze in the middle of NTBackup.

I hope that someone in here maybe has had good experience with HP
Netserver machines to point me in the right direction. I myself is a
Proliant type of a guy.

Thanks!

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RE: wear a cup if you plan on posting questions

2003-03-10 Thread Mellott, Bill
Ill stick with the ribbing
I need the kick in the head once in a while

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: wear a cup if you plan on posting questions


Yep. That's the word on the streets. I heard that too when I joined. 


-Original Message-
From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Below is a quote from a another list that I subscribe too describing this
list.you guys and gals aren't that badI don't know about you all but
I don't wear a cup just a saucer



But..heed the warning.  Do not post questions that you could/should
have been able to answer yourself.  Responses can be very humiliating if,
for instance, you ask a question about something that is in the archives, or
is very basic to messaging.  It may be one of the most valuable lists, but
wear a cup if you plan on posting questions.

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RE: Asking for Password

2003-03-07 Thread Mellott, Bill
2 cent's 
I dont really know about w2k/e2k- AD for this yet...but for me still in my
N4 domain on exch55 OL2K , w2k pro

Sometimes when the user leaves changing their password to the last
day..Ive found that even thought they changed it AND the system took it
..sometimes OL will ask for the user/pass/dom
I usually have them reboot/logout totally log back in
fixes it

2 cents
bill

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Asking for Password


So far it DOESN'T happen to me when I manually change my password.
It happened to the user when the password period was up and it forced him to
change it.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Asking for Password

How do I tell which GC the exchange box is pointing to?

Q317209

Does this happen when others change their password? 

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Asking for Password


The E2K box is near a DC, but the root of my forest is in NJ and I am in MD.
We are connected via a T1.  I gave it enough time (20 minutes) to replicate,
I thought. How do I tell which GC the exchange box is pointing to?

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Asking for Password

Vincent,

Where is the e2k server located with regards to your closest DC?  What is
your replication schedule set to?
What GC is the outlook client pointing to?  Is that the closest GC to your
Exchange server?

-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Asking for Password


Please Help!
 
I am running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2000 AD domain.  Everything has been
working great so far, until today.  A user was asked to change their
password by the systems.  He did so and all of sudden Outlook is now asking
for a password.  He puts it in and it works fine.
Why would he all of sudden need to put in his password?  I have waited while
and still the same results.
 
Thanks.  I will be searching the KB as well.
 
 
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535
 

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RE: OOO to internet, still bad?

2003-03-05 Thread Mellott, Bill
Hey you could reverse the logic here and use this as an important point
about mail box limits

cool
thanks
bill

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad?


I was recently forced to enable OOO to the Internet.  Our sales weasels
couldn't comprehend that customers might prefer to be contacted directly by
a delegate than have to send a second message to an address they got out
of an OOO.

Result?  We saw a massive jump in spam within a week of enabling OOO to the
Internet.

I'm on record with my manager, the department director, the VP and the CTO
as objecting to enabling OOO to the Internet for that reason among other's.

Loops?  Yep - you can still get them.  We had an internal one when a user
enabled OOO, than added a secondary reply to every message rule to his
OOO.  He hit an automated reply mailbox and the two exchanged unique
messages until his mailbox filled up and the Send limits kicked in.

Darcy  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOO to internet, still bad?


I strongly discourage it in our firm.  Usually the most effective argument
against for me has been spam -- we all know that it's a bad idea to reply to
spammers confirming that your address is legitimate.  Throw OOO on
somebody's account and I suspect that their spam load will significantly
increase in the weeks and months ahead as they get added to every spammer's
Gold List of valid e-mail addresses.

There are also security issues and the occasional technical reason not to do
it.  Instead what we recommend people do is turn on their secretary's
account as an alternate recipient while they are away and the secretary is
instructed to handle any crucial issues that come up, including notifying
legitimate correspondants, if any, that the person is out of the office and
will reply when they return.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
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 -Original Message-
 From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I know this has caused havoc on e-mail systems in the past.  
 Is this still frowned on and if so, are there any best-practices 
 available out there on how to enable a firm to provide this service 
 effectively with exchange 2000, outlook 2000/xp and avoid pitfalls in 
 the past?
 
 How do others articulate or provide work-arounds?
 
 Thx for ideas... byron
 
 
 
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RE: Exchange server level encryption-OT

2003-02-26 Thread Mellott, Bill
No I wasn't trying to raise a debate (I don't debate well..wish I could I
might have a better chance against my better half)..though I knew someone
might...
I just get curious at peoples perceptions...and how much they buy into what
is often a lot of media hype...info conveniently not mentioned etc...

Like back when GM did the electric car thing..it was like 90' when I was
back in engineering school
some the other geeks and me did up a quick calc on cost.. initial cost of
vehicle, amount of batteries the thing usedlife of batteries as stated
in the article then...change over cycle..etc...

we did not take into account back then the Fact that after the batteries are
dead/beat the disposal cost due to the fact that batteries are hazardous
waste..at least not from the monetary stand pointetc

I'm not saying new technologies are good or bad...just curious what and how
much people really take into accountabout stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption-OT


Ok I knew I shouldn't have used that example, cause I knew somewhere we
were going to get into a debate about it. In addition I should have said
Hydrogen Fuel Cells which is what I was thinking of when I made the
statement. As far as the pollution:

Fuel cells efficiently convert hydrogen fuel and oxygen from the air
into electricity. Hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles (HFCEVs) emit
only water vapor from their exhaust pipes. Demonstrations of HFCEVs have
been successful and this technology is expected to displace internal
combustion engines in the 21st Century. 

Which I got from pretty much the first thing I could google up here:
http://www.hydrogencomponents.com/altfuel.html



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:02 PM
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Chris Im curious how do you figure this statement? Next thing you'll
drag in Hybrids ...

It's the same problem you have with cars
today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
infrastructure isn't there.

While I agree hydrogen engines maybe more friendly...they do produce
pollution AND the infrastructure you correctly point out which is not
there really WILL in fact produce pollution to make the pieces/stuff
required for the cleaner part.

Let me ask this..IF say you put a refrigerator in a  sealed
room...plug it in...leave the Fridge door openwhat happens in the
room?

there no free lunch...just more healthy...
;-)

bill


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption


Except that none of our clients have heard about PGP. That's one of the
problems with HIPPA, the solutions they want don't exist for a device
that was developed back in the 60's (I think I got the time right, I'm
not going to check though). It's the same problem you have with cars
today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
infrastructure isn't there. Same thing with e-mail and encryption.
That's one of the reasons HIPPA deadlines keeps getting pushed back. 

Then with a solution like PGP you have to teach the users how to use it.
That's a nightmare that I don't ever want to repeat again. Hell half of
the users I taught have a hard time figuring out what the start button
is, and it's right there in front of their face. 

The big problem with HIPPA was that it was designed by bureaucrats (who
BTW were probably the same users that have a hard time with the start
button thing) that wanted to do something to protect the people that
vote for them. Except there wasn't a major problem to begin with. Sure
there were a few slight mishaps here and there, but the industry was
doing a fine job of learning from those mistakes and creating new
solutions to prevent those from happening again. 

In addition to the design problems with HIPPA, you have the fact that
it's become so bloated that no one knows exactly what it is or what you
need to do. While you run into some so called HIPPA expert that says
you need to do one thing, you can always find another that says you
don't need to do that. 

Flat out HIPPA needs to go, and be replaced by something that's a little
more well thought out.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption


Yup.  But PGP is one of the most widely deployed encryption packages and
has software for various client and server packages

RE: Exchange server level encryption-OT

2003-02-25 Thread Mellott, Bill
Chris Im curious how do you figure this statement? Next thing you'll drag in
Hybrids ...

It's the same problem you have with cars
today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
infrastructure isn't there.

While I agree hydrogen engines maybe more friendly...they do produce
pollution AND the infrastructure you correctly point out which is not there
really WILL in fact produce pollution to make the pieces/stuff required for
the cleaner part.

Let me ask this..IF say you put a refrigerator in a  sealed room...plug it
in...leave the Fridge door openwhat happens in the room?

there no free lunch...just more healthy...
;-)

bill


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption


Except that none of our clients have heard about PGP. That's one of the
problems with HIPPA, the solutions they want don't exist for a device
that was developed back in the 60's (I think I got the time right, I'm
not going to check though). It's the same problem you have with cars
today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
infrastructure isn't there. Same thing with e-mail and encryption.
That's one of the reasons HIPPA deadlines keeps getting pushed back. 

Then with a solution like PGP you have to teach the users how to use it.
That's a nightmare that I don't ever want to repeat again. Hell half of
the users I taught have a hard time figuring out what the start button
is, and it's right there in front of their face. 

The big problem with HIPPA was that it was designed by bureaucrats (who
BTW were probably the same users that have a hard time with the start
button thing) that wanted to do something to protect the people that
vote for them. Except there wasn't a major problem to begin with. Sure
there were a few slight mishaps here and there, but the industry was
doing a fine job of learning from those mistakes and creating new
solutions to prevent those from happening again. 

In addition to the design problems with HIPPA, you have the fact that
it's become so bloated that no one knows exactly what it is or what you
need to do. While you run into some so called HIPPA expert that says
you need to do one thing, you can always find another that says you
don't need to do that. 

Flat out HIPPA needs to go, and be replaced by something that's a little
more well thought out.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption


Yup.  But PGP is one of the most widely deployed encryption packages and
has software for various client and server packages.  


 -Original Message-
 From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:19 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Exchange server level encryption
 
 
 Doesn't PGP suffer from the same problem, where the
 recipients need to have
 a PGP key set up?
 
 Erick
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ken Cornetet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:38 PM
 Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption
 
 
 I'll assume you are talking about SMIME encryption here. What you want

 to do is not possible in the general sense. You need the recipient's 
 public key in order to encrypt their mail. You would have to have a 
 predefined list of all possible recipients and their public keys. Even

 if you had this list, I know of no products that implement this (but 
 then again, I've never looked)
 
 You could probably rig something up using PGP on a unix box as an 
 outbound gateway. But then all your recipients would need PGP to read 
 the mail.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange server level encryption
 
 
 Ok, my eyes are going crossed.
 I have been trying to figure out a decent way to encrypt all outbound 
 email from our company. This is for compliance with HIPAA. Does anyone

 happen to have any ideas?
 
 I have googled and haven't found a product that looks right. I have 
 searched for exchange 2000 encryption, email encryption, etc. 
 Help?
 
 TIA
 
 Mike
 
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