RE: Full access

2002-04-16 Thread Mark Harford

That's when Word search/replace comes in handy

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 15 April 2002 23:41
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Excel does not help with LDIFDE though :(
 
 I have to write batch files to parse the LDF exports


This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal
views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.
If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use,
copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify
the sender immediately. 
Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent
or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-16 Thread Mark Harford

IIRC you can't use csvde to modify objects, it can only be used to create or
delete.

 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 16 April 2002 01:00
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 CSVDE (thanks William) won't do what you need?
 


This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal
views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.
If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use,
copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify
the sender immediately. 
Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent
or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-16 Thread Roger Seielstad

LDIFDE does more things than CSVDE

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:00 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 CSVDE (thanks William) won't do what you need?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:41 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Excel does not help with LDIFDE though :(
 
 I have to write batch files to parse the LDF exports
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I've grown to love that Text to Columns feature...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:36 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.
 
 Excel is my first.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Peregrine Systems
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
  
  I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or
  suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
  
  If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic
  installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
  
  I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating
  cute humbleness. He is very capable.
  
  And I AM being mellow, Damnit!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Have you never been mellow?
  Have you never tried?
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on
  production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
  
  You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise
  decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
  per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
  as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
  it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
  Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
  company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
  for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
  
  I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?
  Just kidding.
  
  William
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange
  since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
  any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  My guess is she has minions do it.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use
  exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
  Exchange for years and years.
  - Original Message -
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge.
  That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
  
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
  day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
  Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should

RE: Full access

2002-04-15 Thread Roger Seielstad

Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.

Excel is my first.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
 
 I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or 
 suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
 
 If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic 
 installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
 
 I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating 
 cute humbleness. He is very capable.
 
 And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Have you never been mellow?
 Have you never tried?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on 
 production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
 
 You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise 
 decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
 per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
 as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
 it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
 Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
 company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
 for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
 
 I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  
 Just kidding.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange 
 since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
 any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 My guess is she has minions do it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --
 --
 --
 The information contained in this email message is privileged 
 and confidential information intended only for the use of the 
 individual or entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader 
 of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby 
 notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy

RE: Full access

2002-04-15 Thread David Strome

I've grown to love that Text to Columns feature...

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.

Excel is my first.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
 
 I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or 
 suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
 
 If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic 
 installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
 
 I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating 
 cute humbleness. He is very capable.
 
 And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Have you never been mellow?
 Have you never tried?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on 
 production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
 
 You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise 
 decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
 per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
 as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
 it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
 Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
 company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
 for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
 
 I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  
 Just kidding.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange 
 since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
 any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 My guess is she has minions do it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --
 --
 --
 The information contained in this email message is privileged 
 and confidential information

RE: Full access

2002-04-15 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Excel does not help with LDIFDE though :(

I have to write batch files to parse the LDF exports

-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I've grown to love that Text to Columns feature...

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.

Excel is my first.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
 
 I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or 
 suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
 
 If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic 
 installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
 
 I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating 
 cute humbleness. He is very capable.
 
 And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Have you never been mellow?
 Have you never tried?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on 
 production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
 
 You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise 
 decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
 per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
 as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
 it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
 Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
 company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
 for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
 
 I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  
 Just kidding.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange 
 since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
 any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 My guess is she has minions do it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe

RE: Full access

2002-04-15 Thread David Strome

CSVDE (thanks William) won't do what you need?

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Excel does not help with LDIFDE though :(

I have to write batch files to parse the LDF exports

-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I've grown to love that Text to Columns feature...

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.

Excel is my first.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
 
 I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or 
 suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
 
 If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic 
 installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
 
 I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating 
 cute humbleness. He is very capable.
 
 And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Have you never been mellow?
 Have you never tried?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on 
 production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
 
 You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise 
 decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
 per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
 as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
 it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
 Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
 company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
 for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
 
 I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  
 Just kidding.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange 
 since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
 any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 My guess is she has minions do it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design

RE: Full access

2002-04-15 Thread William Lefkovics

Any of a 100 spreadsheet apps do the same thing. :o)


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Actually, ExMerge is second on my most needed Exchange tool list.

Excel is my first.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.
 
 I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or 
 suspected virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.
 
 If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic 
 installation, it would probably be ExMerge.
 
 I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating 
 cute humbleness. He is very capable.
 
 And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Have you never been mellow?
 Have you never tried?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on 
 production boxes.  It is a valuable tool.
 
 You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise 
 decent Exchange installation, but used a recipients container 
 per department? You've never tried to retrieve as much data 
 as possible from a corrupt information store?  I've even used 
 it to move a couple of mailboxes between Admin groups in 
 Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another 
 company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) 
 for future blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 
 
 I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  
 Just kidding.
 
 William
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange 
 since it was a fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had 
 any reason to do an ExMerge on a production box.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 My guess is she has minions do it.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --
 --
 --
 The information contained in this email message is privileged 
 and confidential information

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Robert Moir

Clue. You've either got it, or you think all your helpdesk staff need to log
into everyone's account every time theres an email trouble ticket.

-- 
Robert Moir, MSMVP
IT Systems Engineer, 
Luton Sixth Form College
Rome did not create a mighty empire by having management meetings

 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 11 April 2002 22:49
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
 Q258183. 
  I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular 
 question 
  implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-- 
This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information
that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or
unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited.

The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or
policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

And probably a cigarette afterwards.

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:20:27 -0700
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh... Don will need a few beers before the fist round.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


OK. I see you at MEC2002 and I pay the fist round.

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 OK, OK I need a beer.
 
 Don, we have a draw here :)
 
 /Peter
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Recipient containers in E2K?
 
 (sorry, I just had to...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Full access
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Service account in E2K ?
  
  I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to 
use
  exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred 
from 
  site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and 
set-up 
  recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
  
  /Peter
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all 
the
  access needed
   it there.
  
   And how often does one run Exmerge?
  
   
   Don Ely
   Network Engineer
   Tripath Imaging, Inc.
   (336) 290-8293 - Direct
   (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email 
http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with 
ExMerge. 
  That's when 
   you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Runs counter to several things I would consider best 
practices.
  
   1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox 
enabled.
   2. Users should be logging in as domain admin 
accounts for 
  day to day
  work.
   3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, 
but 
  that doesn't 
   mean that the rights should be applied to that group, 
rather those 
   users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. 
Users with the 
   ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to 
the 
  smallest group 
   of users possible.
  
   I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed 
out for lunch.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Why is this a bad design?
   
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Asked and answered at least once this week already 
I 
  think. Q258183. 
I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question 
implies.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access


 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full 
access to
all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

Sure.. Give me a few minutes.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Beyond SSM status. Roger? I demand to see the test results. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:02 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
  boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
  status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  ShavedSeielstad.exe?
  
  
   Original message 
  Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
  From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Full access
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
  level exec's
  mailboxes then.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best
  practices.
  
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
  day to day work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
  that doesn't mean
  that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
  those users should
  be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
  ability to log into
  mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
  possible.
  
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
  for lunch.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
   Why is this a bad design?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I
  think.
   Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular
   question implies.
   
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access


What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
  to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
   
   
  _
  
   List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
   Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
   To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  _
  
   List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
   Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
   To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Andy David
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Doug Hampshire

That's why we got him GAnimals. He can pick the giraffe label pants and
know that the giraffe label shirt will match it.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

He is rather cute in those Panda overalls.


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:28:49 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's why we got him GAnimals. He can pick the giraffe 
label pants and
know that the giraffe label shirt will match it.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now 
each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts 
for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design 
that
 particular
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full 
access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Darcy Adams

ROFLMAO!!! Oh, jeez. . . that's an image I won't forget for a while.  

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


He is rather cute in those Panda overalls.


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:28:49 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's why we got him GAnimals. He can pick the giraffe 
label pants and
know that the giraffe label shirt will match it.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now 
each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts 
for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design 
that
 particular
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full 
access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread John Matteson

Roger.. you're keeping secrets. I didn't know you worked for Zoo Atlanta in
your off hours.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


He is rather cute in those Panda overalls.


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:28:49 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's why we got him GAnimals. He can pick the giraffe 
label pants and
know that the giraffe label shirt will match it.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now 
each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts 
for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design 
that
 particular
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full 
access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
_
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

Among other things  ;o)


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


And probably a cigarette afterwards.

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:20:27 -0700
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh... Don will need a few beers before the fist round.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


OK. I see you at MEC2002 and I pay the fist round.

/Peter
- Original Message -
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 OK, OK I need a beer.
 
 Don, we have a draw here :)
 
 /Peter
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Recipient containers in E2K?
 
 (sorry, I just had to...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Full access
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Service account in E2K ?
  
  I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to
use
  exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred
from 
  site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and
set-up 
  recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
  
  /Peter
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all
the
  access needed
   it there.
  
   And how often does one run Exmerge?
  
   
   Don Ely
   Network Engineer
   Tripath Imaging, Inc.
   (336) 290-8293 - Direct
   (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with
ExMerge. 
  That's when
   you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.
  
   1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox
enabled.
   2. Users should be logging in as domain admin
accounts for 
  day to day
  work.
   3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins,
but 
  that doesn't
   mean that the rights should be applied to that group,
rather those 
   users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4.
Users with the 
   ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to
the 
  smallest group
   of users possible.
  
   I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed
out for lunch.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Why is this a bad design?
   
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Asked and answered at least once this week already
I 
  think. Q258183.
I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular question
implies.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access


 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full
access to
all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential 
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is 
addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are 
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is 
strictly prohibited.  If you have received this email in error, please immediately 
notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or 
email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you.

==


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

If someone's mailbox is ever tampered with, who do you think they will
suspect first?


-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential 
information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is 
addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are 
hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is 
strictly prohibited.  If you have received this email in error, please immediately 
notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or 
email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you.

==


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread William Lefkovics

Don Ely?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


If someone's mailbox is ever tampered with, who do you think they will
suspect first?


-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have
received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler
Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you.


==


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

Heyy!  I don't hack everyone's network...  ;o)  I'm very selective!


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Don Ely?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


If someone's mailbox is ever tampered with, who do you think they will
suspect first?


-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have
received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

What if I need to run ExMerge export every day?

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


?!?!  If and when that needs to occur, you set the permissions appropriately
at that time. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you
 need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that 
 doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
 users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group.
 4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be 
 limited to the
 smallest group of users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
  all PFs and 
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

One of my customers wants to have their mailboxes exported to PSTs every
day. They just want to keep these PSTs handy, just in case.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

So have I. Since the Exchange Beta, before the 4.0 version.

Maybe you should practive doing ExMerge anyway. One day it may save you.

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

Thats just plain sad.


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:39:21 -0400
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One of my customers wants to have their mailboxes exported 
to PSTs every
day. They just want to keep these PSTs handy, just in case.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years 
and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best 
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather 
those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be 
limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out 
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access 
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Exchange 2000 does not have a service account like Exchange 5.5 does.

The main administrative account in Exchange is explicitly denied from
accessing other users' mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
there.

And how often does one run Exmerge?  


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

I have used ExMerge to move mailboxes too. Before we went native mode, there
was no other way to move mailboxes between servers if the servers belonged
to different administrative groups.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

Proactive Exmerge? Is that sort of like BLBs?


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:40:43 -0400
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So have I. Since the Exchange Beta, before the 4.0 version.

Maybe you should practive doing ExMerge anyway. One day it 
may save you.

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing 
exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to 
do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years 
and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best 
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather 
those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be 
limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out 
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access 
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

Ya don't say...  How will I ever manage?  ;o)

Actually, you should re-sort the threads.  We already determined I was a
dumba$$ for a moment and payment will be rendered at MEC2002.


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Exchange 2000 does not have a service account like Exchange 5.5 does.

The main administrative account in Exchange is explicitly denied from
accessing other users' mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
there.

And how often does one run Exmerge?  


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. 
 I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question 
 implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Ely, Don

::Great Minds::

You beat me to virtually the same reply.  ;o)

I practice Exmerge, maybe once in a Blue Moon.  Usually, I only find a need
for it when forklifting mailboxes to another server or while doing some DR
work.  Otherwise, I have no use for Exmerge.


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Proactive Exmerge? Is that sort of like BLBs?


 Original message 
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:40:43 -0400
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So have I. Since the Exchange Beta, before the 4.0 version.

Maybe you should practive doing ExMerge anyway. One day it
may save you.

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing
exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to
do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use
exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years
and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge.
That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be
limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular 
 question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread William Lefkovics

Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.

I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or suspected
virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.

If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic installation, it
would probably be ExMerge.

I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating cute humbleness.
He is very capable.

And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have
received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler
Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you.


==


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread Andy David

And we havent even gotten to discussing Arkanserve yet! ;)



-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.

I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or suspected
virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.

If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic installation, it
would probably be ExMerge.

I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating cute humbleness.
He is very capable.

And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have
received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler
Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread David Strome

I am cute dammit!

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.

I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or suspected
virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.

If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic installation, it
would probably be ExMerge.

I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating cute humbleness.
He is very capable.

And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited.  If you have
received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler
Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message.  Thank you

RE: Full access

2002-04-12 Thread William Lefkovics

ok, I change that.  If I was only allowed a single tool outside of the
default Exchange install it would be the uninstall.exe needed to remove CA
products.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


And we havent even gotten to discussing Arkanserve yet! ;)



-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yes, the mellow ones are when I don't hit send.

I didn't even get into the exporting of bad messages, or suspected
virus-laden messages retrievable by subject, or the like.

If I were only allowed a single tool outside of the basic installation, it
would probably be ExMerge.

I also don't buy into Mr Strome's subtle self-depricating cute humbleness.
He is very capable.

And I AM being mellow, Damnit! 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Have you never been mellow?
Have you never tried?


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
The information contained in this email message is privileged and
confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or
entity to whom it is addressed.  If the reader of this message is not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copy of this message is strictly

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all 
 PFs and Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Andy David

Why would you want to do that?
Anyway: Q262054




 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:46:09 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Levis

That was answered this morning.  Q258183

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Erik Sojka

Andy says it is Q262054.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:54 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 That was answered this morning.  Q258183
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:46 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all
 PFs and Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
 all PFs and 
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Doug Hampshire

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-level exec's
mailboxes then. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Setmajer, Jerzy

 www.dice.com 

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-level exec's
mailboxes then. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Andy David

ShavedSeielstad.exe?


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
level exec's
mailboxes then. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best 
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather 
those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users 
possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out 
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access 
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Roger Seielstad

ShavedEskens.exe is more like it..

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access  
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Doug Hampshire

The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my boss, nor a
C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM status. He can actually get
dressed all by himself now each morning.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


ShavedSeielstad.exe?


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
level exec's
mailboxes then.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
_

 List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Roger Seielstad

My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my 
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular 
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Hunter, Lori

You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all
 PFs and Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Woodruff, Michael

Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Hunter, Lori

Whoopie, I have one.  Me.  I support 6 sites (soon to drop to 4) with about
5K mailboxes.

I'm not saying don't ever do it, just don't make it a default.  Make it so
that the admin has to manually add his NT account to the box each and every
time.  Make your server update the directory perms every one minute.  That's
an FAQ.  Get EVERYTHING in writing if you are asked to enter anyone else's
mailbox.  EVERY time.

Maybe you need to rethink how you troubleshoot mailbox issues.  I almost
never have to actually go into anyone's mailbox.  There's plenty of ways to
figure things out without doing that.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Dillon, Jeff

Just make sure the forgetful Exec's give you permission in writing.  As you
point out, they won't remember they did.  Then ponder what they'll think if
a sensitive message from their sent ends up in the wrong hands...THEY know
they couldn't have misclicked the recipient.

And so forth...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Hunter, Lori

Make your ExchangeAdmin NT group the owner of all resources.

Execs should be shot, and they will be the first one to take you to court.

OOO?  Who gives a rats ass

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access  
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Woodruff, Michael

I'm not saying five is not enough.  I'm saying there are only five who would
have access and that would be easy to track.  We also have a contract to
sign every time someone gets a job here.  It states that we can read your
email if necessary.  Anyway thanks for the info.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Whoopie, I have one.  Me.  I support 6 sites (soon to drop to 4) with about
5K mailboxes.

I'm not saying don't ever do it, just don't make it a default.  Make it so
that the admin has to manually add his NT account to the box each and every
time.  Make your server update the directory perms every one minute.  That's
an FAQ.  Get EVERYTHING in writing if you are asked to enter anyone else's
mailbox.  EVERY time.

Maybe you need to rethink how you troubleshoot mailbox issues.  I almost
never have to actually go into anyone's mailbox.  There's plenty of ways to
figure things out without doing that.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many purposes.  How else
could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain admins.

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you may want to brush
up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting yourself up for a
world of hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why is this a bad design?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. I'll
skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question implies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access
 
 
 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

Beyond SSM status. Roger? I demand to see the test results. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my 
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular 
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Missy Koslosky

You have a short memory, Scharff.  Roger is definitely *not* shaven!
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Beyond SSM status. Roger? I demand to see the test results. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my 
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular 
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

I for one am proud of the fact I was able to block that particular memory
from my mind. Gave me nightmares for weeks.

 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 You have a short memory, Scharff.  Roger is definitely *not* shaven!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:33 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Beyond SSM status. Roger? I demand to see the test results. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:02 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
  boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
  status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  ShavedSeielstad.exe?
  
  
   Original message 
  Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
  From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Full access
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
  level exec's
  mailboxes then.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best
  practices.
  
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
  day to day work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
  that doesn't mean
  that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
  those users should
  be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
  ability to log into
  mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
  possible.
  
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
  for lunch.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
   Why is this a bad design?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I
  think.
   Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular
   question implies.
   
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access


What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
  to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
   
   
  _
  
   List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
   Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
   To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  _
  
   List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
   Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
   To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
  http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Andy David
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread John Matteson

SSM Status... thinks to self, do I REALLY want to know?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been
accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and
its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal.
Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path
leading to success and truth. --Bruce Lee



-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


You have a short memory, Scharff.  Roger is definitely *not* shaven!
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Beyond SSM status. Roger? I demand to see the test results. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my 
 boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
 status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 ShavedSeielstad.exe?
 
 
  Original message 
 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
 From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Full access
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
 level exec's
 mailboxes then.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best
 practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
 that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
 those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
 ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
 possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
 for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I
 think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular 
  question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
 to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 _
 
  List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   
 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   
 http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Andy David
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

For mailboxes, go to the properties of the information store, go to
Security, explicitly allow the last two security options to the
administrator's account (they are inherited as Deny). Wait 10 minutes or
reboot the server.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access


What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
 all PFs and 
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Erik Sojka

?!?!  If and when that needs to occur, you set the permissions appropriately
at that time. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you
 need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that 
 doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
 users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group.
 4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be 
 limited to the
 smallest group of users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to 
  all PFs and 
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

Indeed a valid reason. I'd argue there should be a special account for that
task and that account should not be a member of the domain admins group and
should not be a member of the normal Exchange Admins group either, but
should be in a special Exchange Service Account group. Knowledge and use of
that account should also be limited to the smallest possible group.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Why is this a bad design?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question implies.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
   
   
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Missy Koslosky

Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread David Strome

You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ray Zorz

Is this the 6'4 built-like-a-NFL-linebacker Mr. Seielstad you're talking
about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my boss, nor a
C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM status. He can actually get
dressed all by himself now each morning.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


ShavedSeielstad.exe?


 Original message 
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
From: Doug Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Full access
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
level exec's
mailboxes then.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I
think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?


_

 List posting FAQ:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_

 List posting FAQ:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



_
List posting FAQ:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:
http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy David

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Scharff

Knowing what she's doing. Missy? I want to see the test scores.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use 
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around 
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange 
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be 
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of 
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log 
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of 
 users possible.
 
 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. 
 Q258183. 
  I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular 
 question 
  implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ray Zorz

I exmerged out of my production box twice to fix corruption problems, both
times per PSS.  No big deal.

 -Original Message-
 From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access


 Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use
 exmerge on a production box, and I have a been around
 Exchange for years and years.
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge.
 That's when you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
 day to day work. 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange
 Admins, but that doesn't mean that the rights should be
 applied to that group, rather those users should be part of
 an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log
 into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of
 users possible.

 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183.
  I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
 question
  implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread William Lefkovics

My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Akerlund, Scott

Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
 particular question implies.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
 
 
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
there.

And how often does one run Exmerge?  


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
 Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question implies.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Full access
  
  
  What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
 all PFs and
  Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread William Lefkovics

It's my brick-level backup solution [1]  ;)


[1] backup solution?  sounds like something you drink for constipation
relief.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
there.

And how often does one run Exmerge?  


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread William Lefkovics

I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Peter Szabo

Service account in E2K ?

I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use exmerge on a
production box:
1. User A is transferred from site A to site B
2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up recipient containers ( It wasn't
you of course ;))

/Peter

- Original Message -
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
 there.

 And how often does one run Exmerge?

 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
 need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
 that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
 be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
 mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
  Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular question implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

LOL!


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


It's my brick-level backup solution [1]  ;)


[1] backup solution?  sounds like something you drink for constipation
relief.

-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed it
there.

And how often does one run Exmerge?  


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Why is this a bad design?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread David Strome

I use it when toasting mailboxes. Then I burn the PSTs to CD and give it to
HR. Also used it once to suck out a virus that got past our scanners. Also
used it, as you say, to pull data out of a corrupt store. worked great.

I said Missy knew what she was doing, not me...so I use it :)


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


I started with 5.0.  I've used ExMerge consistently on production boxes.  It
is a valuable tool.

You've never walked into a client that had setup an otherwise decent
Exchange installation, but used a recipients container per department?
You've never tried to retrieve as much data as possible from a corrupt
information store?  I've even used it to move a couple of mailboxes between
Admin groups in Exchange 2000 (mixed mode).  Extracting data from another
company's remote exchange box (not sufficiently locked down) for future
blackmailings (thanks, Tener.). 

I'm glad you never had a reason to.  Are you still on 4.0?  Just kidding.

William

-Original Message-
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Yikes I'm with Missy on this one.  I have been doing exchange since it was a
fledgling beta called 4.0  I have never had any reason to do an ExMerge on a
production box.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My guess is she has minions do it.


-Original Message-
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


You have the great fortune of knowing what you're doing...


-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Sometimes?  Sometimes when?  I have NEVER needed to use exmerge on a
production box, and I have a been around Exchange for years and years.
- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when
you
need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't
mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users
should
be part of an Exchange admins group.
4. Users with the ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the
smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Why is this a bad design?



_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

HEH HEH, I was thinking 5.5.  Don't mind me...  ;o)


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


Service account in E2K ?

I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use exmerge on a
production box: 1. User A is transferred from site A to site B 2. The
previous admin was stupid and set-up recipient containers ( It wasn't you of
course ;))

/Peter

- Original Message -
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the access needed 
 it there.

 And how often does one run Exmerge?

 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. That's when 
 you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Full access


 Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

 1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
 2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day
work.
 3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't 
 mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
 users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
 ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group 
 of users possible.

 I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Why is this a bad design?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Asked and answered at least once this week already I think. Q258183. 
  I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular question 
  implies.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Full access
  
  
   What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
  all PFs and
   Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  _
  List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
  Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
  To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Tom Meunier

Recipient containers in E2K?

(sorry, I just had to...)

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Full access
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Service account in E2K ?
 
 I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use 
 exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
 site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
 recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
 
 /Peter
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the 
 access needed 
  it there.
 
  And how often does one run Exmerge?
 
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
  http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when 
  you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day
 work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
 that doesn't 
  mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
  users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
  ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
 smallest group 
  of users possible.
 
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Why is this a bad design?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
 think. Q258183. 
   I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question 
   implies.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access
   
   
What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Peter Szabo

OK, OK I need a beer.

Don, we have a draw here :)

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Recipient containers in E2K?

(sorry, I just had to...)

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Full access
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Service account in E2K ?
 
 I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use 
 exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
 site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
 recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
 
 /Peter
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the 
 access needed 
  it there.
 
  And how often does one run Exmerge?
 
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
  http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when 
  you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day
 work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
 that doesn't 
  mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
  users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
  ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
 smallest group 
  of users possible.
 
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Why is this a bad design?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
 think. Q258183. 
   I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question 
   implies.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access
   
   
What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

LOL


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Recipient containers in E2K?

(sorry, I just had to...)

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Full access
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Service account in E2K ?
 
 I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use
 exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
 site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
 recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
 
 /Peter
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the
 access needed
  it there.
 
  And how often does one run Exmerge?
 
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when 
  you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day
 work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
 that doesn't 
  mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
  users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
  ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
 smallest group 
  of users possible.
 
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Why is this a bad design?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
 think. Q258183. 
   I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question 
   implies.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access
   
   
What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


OK, OK I need a beer.

Don, we have a draw here :)

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


Recipient containers in E2K?

(sorry, I just had to...)

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Full access
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 Service account in E2K ?
 
 I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use
 exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
 site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
 recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
 
 /Peter
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the
 access needed
  it there.
 
  And how often does one run Exmerge?
 
  
  Don Ely
  Network Engineer
  Tripath Imaging, Inc.
  (336) 290-8293 - Direct
  (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
 That's when 
  you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
  Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
 
  1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
  2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
 day to day
 work.
  3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
 that doesn't 
  mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
  users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
  ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
 smallest group 
  of users possible.
 
  I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Why is this a bad design?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
 think. Q258183. 
   I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
 particular question 
   implies.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Full access
   
   
What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
   all PFs and
Mailboxes in Exchange2k?

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

_
List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Peter Szabo

OK. I see you at MEC2002 and I pay the fist round.

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 OK, OK I need a beer.
 
 Don, we have a draw here :)
 
 /Peter
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Recipient containers in E2K?
 
 (sorry, I just had to...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Full access
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Service account in E2K ?
  
  I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use
  exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
  site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
  recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
  
  /Peter
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the
  access needed
   it there.
  
   And how often does one run Exmerge?
  
   
   Don Ely
   Network Engineer
   Tripath Imaging, Inc.
   (336) 290-8293 - Direct
   (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
  That's when 
   you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
  
   1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
   2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
  day to day
  work.
   3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
  that doesn't 
   mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
   users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
   ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
  smallest group 
   of users possible.
  
   I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Why is this a bad design?
   
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
  think. Q258183. 
I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question 
implies.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access


 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
List

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread Ely, Don

I believe that will work just fine...  ;o)


Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com




-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


OK. I see you at MEC2002 and I pay the fist round.

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 OK, OK I need a beer.
 
 Don, we have a draw here :)
 
 /Peter
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Recipient containers in E2K?
 
 (sorry, I just had to...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Full access
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Service account in E2K ?
  
  I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use exmerge on 
  a production box: 1. User A is transferred from site A to site B 2. 
  The previous admin was stupid and set-up recipient containers ( It 
  wasn't you of course ;))
  
  /Peter
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the
  access needed
   it there.
  
   And how often does one run Exmerge?
  
   
   Don Ely
   Network Engineer
   Tripath Imaging, Inc.
   (336) 290-8293 - Direct
   (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge.
  That's when
   you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
  
   1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 2. Users 
   should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
  day to day
  work.
   3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
  that doesn't
   mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those
   users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
   ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
  smallest group
   of users possible.
  
   I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for 
   lunch.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Why is this a bad design?
   
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Asked and answered at least once this week already I
  think. Q258183.
I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
  particular question
implies.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access


 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List

RE: Full access

2002-04-11 Thread William Lefkovics

Oh... Don will need a few beers before the fist round.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Full access


OK. I see you at MEC2002 and I pay the fist round.

/Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Full access


 Yes we do!  Beers all around!  :o)
 
 
 Don Ely
 Network Engineer
 Tripath Imaging, Inc.
 (336) 290-8293 - Direct
 (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
 http://www.tripathimaging.com
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Full access
 
 
 OK, OK I need a beer.
 
 Don, we have a draw here :)
 
 /Peter
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom Meunier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:04 PM
 Subject: RE: Full access
 
 
 Recipient containers in E2K?
 
 (sorry, I just had to...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Szabo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Thursday, April 11, 2002 05:53 PM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Full access
  Subject: Re: Full access
  
  
  Service account in E2K ?
  
  I can think of a couple of scenarios when one need to use
  exmerge on a production box: 1. User A is transferred from 
  site A to site B 2. The previous admin was stupid and set-up 
  recipient containers ( It wasn't you of course ;))
  
  /Peter
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Ely, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:38 PM
  Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Then use the service account.  I would imagine, all the
  access needed
   it there.
  
   And how often does one run Exmerge?
  
   
   Don Ely
   Network Engineer
   Tripath Imaging, Inc.
   (336) 290-8293 - Direct
   (336) 516-4519 - Mobile
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email http://www.tripathimaging.com
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Sometimes you need to export everyone's mail with ExMerge. 
  That's when 
   you need to have full access to everyone's mailbox.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:01 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Full access
  
  
   Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.
  
   1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
   2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
  day to day
  work.
   3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but 
  that doesn't 
   mean that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those 
   users should be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the 
   ability to log into mailboxes should be limited to the 
  smallest group 
   of users possible.
  
   I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.
  
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Why is this a bad design?
   
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access
   
   
Asked and answered at least once this week already I 
  think. Q258183. 
I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
  particular question 
implies.
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Full access


 What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and
 Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives:   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
 To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 List posting FAQ:   http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
 Archives