RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Thank you for remembering! Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Man, I hate it when I'm away and a new troll moves into the neighborhood. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
We've noticed problems like this with NAV 2.17 in the last few weeks. Everything was fine when we were on 2.16, and all of a sudden we had a horde of users reporting move/archive problems. Eventually we noticed that on both the servers involved, the scan attachment in background setting was set to off (Select AutoProtect in the Web GUI interface). This certainly *should* have been on - we surmise that the upgrade from 2.16 to 2.17 set it to off. The effect seems to have been that NAV *never* did any background scanning, even when Live Update changed the virus definitions. We set it the switch to on, cycled NAV and IS, and immediately NAV started a background scan. Since then, we have (so far!!) had no complaints; a couple of users who did see problems specifically retested and things worked OK. Alan -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 10:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Go to their support web site, click contact customer support and ask for it. They'll send you the link to type in your contract ID number and the password you'll need to extract the zip. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:44 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. However, if you disable background-scan-after-Live-Update you're back where you started, with all scanning needing to be done at first attachment access time Our 12Gb store takes about 12 hours to scan - depends on number of attachments, server spec and so on, of course. We took one server from 385M to 1024M and it made a *lot* of difference here. We have Gold Support, so we posted a note on their message board and asked for a link. That gets you a password-protected ZIP file. I'm not sure that they have not changed this now - some replies to requests I've seen lately said to phone the Symantec Support Line. In general their update policy is lousy - they don't even put a note of what their latest version *is* anywhere I've found... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
The description of the problem (runs fine, then performance begins to gradually die) is indicative of the same problem that has been around since the AVAPI was introduced in SP4. Basically one of the threads that handles the attachment notification goes to lala-land. I remember there being a post SP4-hotfix for it but then the same problem occurred but from the 3rd-party side. - Original Message - From: Halliday S (ISELS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:08 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site
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The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent
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I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option
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You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | ---| Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went
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Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part
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For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus
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By whom was it voted number one? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan
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Isn't that what Microsoft do (or at least did) internally? I'm sure Dave Walsh of Microsoft said that at a meeting in the UK earlier this year. Neil -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 December 2001 16:33 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am
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Who fsking cares? When there E2K product gets out of beta, perhaps it might be relevant on an Exchange list. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple
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Because they are quick with updates, and they have good customer support. And, they catch viri. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Woodruff, Michael | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:43 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | ---| For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage
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This would be the same Microsoft which was hammered internally by Nimda and has been the first sender of a dozen of so new major viruses I've received over the last couple of years? I've adopted a bit of a different strategy myself. But, to each his own I suppose. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Isn't that what Microsoft do (or at least did) internally? I'm sure Dave Walsh of Microsoft said that at a meeting in the UK earlier this year. Neil -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 December 2001 16:33 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I
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This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost
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by whom, exactly? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors
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Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie
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Scary isn't it? By the way, we always put AV on Exchange servers; I wasn't joining sides with the non-AV Exchange server brigade! :-) Neil -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 December 2001 16:43 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This would be the same Microsoft which was hammered internally by Nimda and has been the first sender of a dozen of so new major viruses I've received over the last couple of years? I've adopted a bit of a different strategy myself. But, to each his own I suppose. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Isn't that what Microsoft do (or at least did) internally? I'm sure Dave Walsh of Microsoft said that at a meeting in the UK earlier this year. Neil -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 14 December 2001 16:33 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions
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Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran
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What is wrong with being a smartass? Are we running out of room and cant handle anymore? -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting
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Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Tom, Actually (correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure someone on this list will), when the definitions are updated, it only rescans the attachments within the store, not the entire store. Therefore, if you are like Seielstad or Blackstone and block ALL attachments, g it should only take a couple of minutes to rescan the IS. Jim Blunt -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives
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Just try not to make an aslo of yourself and you'll be fine... -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions
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I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole
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Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid
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If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only
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When I first came here I was flogged, then I kept quiet for a good long time. I think the biggest mistake I ever made was to ask two questions that were both in the faq. :o -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems
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What, again? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Honesty is not only the best policy, it is rare enough today to make you pleasantly conspicuous. --Anonymous -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI
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That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background
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Watch out there Drew or I will bestow the title upon you. :p -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig What, again? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Honesty is not only the best policy, it is rare enough today to make you pleasantly conspicuous. --Anonymous -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message
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Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage
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Son... take a step back, ok? It's a big list, and you'll probably do better if you keep yourself in a position to get your questions answers. End of year, people are stressed... just take a deep breath. No, I mean, let it out, not hold it till you turn blue... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Nostalgia just ain't what it used to be. - Kathy Evans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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One of many... :) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance. -- Akhenaton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Watch out there Drew or I will bestow the title upon you. :p -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig What, again? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Honesty is not only the best policy, it is rare enough today to make you pleasantly conspicuous. --Anonymous -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh not at all. Those were most of the titles I've seen used in conjunction with the name Chris Scharff. :) (I'm not even saying he isn't a smartass - I think he is - but that's why we love him!!) The ones most often used in conjunction with me are bitch and goddess. I'm happy to be both. Consistency is the hobgoblin of the small mind. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14
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What is a LART? Is that like a whipping post? - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you
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Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool [1] Regards, Me;) http://www.dangerousdaze.com/faq/images/dickhead.gif [2] [1] ThE sTiCk, etc. [2] The only one I could find that I would post in a public forum.[3] [3] This one anyway g -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig What is a LART? Is that like a whipping post? - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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No way, I'm the maroon!! - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled
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No problem Michelle. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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ROTFMAOWTRDMC :) Candee MOS+UN -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc
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m running women... -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc
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Ohh...so THAT's what you mean by bouncingduh...and here I thought it was an Exchange thing... Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig m running women... -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions
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For more information on bouncing please visit the source. http://www.tiggercam.co.uk -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Ohh...so THAT's what you mean by bouncingduh...and here I thought it was an Exchange thing... Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig m running women... -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com
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Bounce female message via ims error 550 relay race prohibited? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Ohh...so THAT's what you mean by bouncingduh...and here I thought it was an Exchange thing... Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig m running women... -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please
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LOL...too funny! Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig For more information on bouncing please visit the source. http://www.tiggercam.co.uk -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Ohh...so THAT's what you mean by bouncingduh...and here I thought it was an Exchange thing... Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:09 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig m running women... -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Don't pick on women. We run off and cry. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff
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No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED
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::Ducking:: -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I thought she was a male. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, If you want to disrespect me, that's fine. Bring it on. I've got your LART right here pal. But you'd be well advised to treat a lady, such as Mrs. Hunter with proper deference. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig That's funny seeing how you are commenting on this. It looks as if you have been called everything already. I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I
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You didn't read my post about backing off and taking a deep breath, did you... Ah, well... awaiting the PLONKs/ -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! If you think you are experiencing a memory leak, please be aware that memory leaks may not be what they appear to be. You may discover that a memory leak is really not a memory leak but a performance enhancement - MS KB article 268343 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ah, can I be the resident dumb-ass? I KNOW I'm qualified! Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange
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Ah, can I be the resident dumb ass? I KNOW I'm qualified! Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange
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You're over-qualified, Mr. David. We're afraid that you'd be bored in the position. Of course if CJ is listening, maybe you could become Michelle's tech-buddy. -- be - MOS Grover Cleveland spanked me on two non-consecutive occasions! - Abe Simpson -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If the dickhead position is still open, I'd be glad to take it, otherwise, please let me be the moron. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, friendly advice. Do yourself a big favor and read the list for a few weeks before you decide who is a smartass, a wiseass, a dickhead, a moron, a troll, a goddess, etc. Some of the people you may define as smartass, the rest of us might define as guru with an edge. I'll take the edge as long as I get the guru knowledge along with it. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That KB quote is classic. My favorite is from CA's Support Site: http://support.cai.com/helpfiles/asnt65/ASMGRError_8020.html Error 8020 8020 Failed to inventory slot(s) (EC=error string)[Device:device number][library vendor description]. Module: Library Explanation: Check error string. Cause/Solution: Solution varies. -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You didn't read my post about backing off and taking a deep breath, did you... Ah, well... awaiting the PLONKs/ -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! If you think you are experiencing a memory leak, please be aware that memory leaks may not be what they appear to be. You may discover that a memory leak is really not a memory leak but a performance enhancement - MS KB article 268343 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Those who answer the most, are the smart asses??? Mmmm what have we discovered here? -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great
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That we know so much that we can be!! -Original Message- From: Milton R. Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Those who answer the most, are the smart asses??? Mmmm what have we discovered here? -- Dr. Milton R. Dogg Of the Dogg Foundation -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sorry, I forgot a few others. Drew, Daniel, Ed, Lori, Kelly, Ms Sharik, Etc. For anyone I left out, I sincerely apologize. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No way! I am a major smart ass. So is Andy, William, Kevin, DON, and a few others. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I see he is not the only smart ass here. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Its a discussion list. Not a technical helpdesk. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 17:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Not long. I actually joined to get some useful information and aslo give some. I didn't join to compete with certain people on right answers. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mike, exactly how long have you been on the list? Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors
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Wow look at you! Ineffectual! Do you know that was the word of the day on November 4, 2000? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them
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m insightful plonk... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update
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hup, hup, there it is! -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! No, I have a batch of wild animal techies stealing rum out of the 'medicine' cabinet at all hours, a paranoid android that likes to have conversations with auto-responders, an ex-Paul in a badly stained Barney costume peaking a head through a window, a cross-dressing sex fiend loading up his hard drive with porn, an AWOL leader, a commie punk who thinks he's George Carlin, and the only semi-sane one in the asylum is off ringing someone else's bells... - Jim Majorowicz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey, Chris, pearls before swine, ya know? Besides, doesn't every mailing list all over the world fall to its knees and worship newbies? Michael: a friendly tip. This list has been in existence for about six years now (give or take) and many of us (moi aussi) are original list members. A community has developed out of this association and you're the guy who only just moved into the neighborhood. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work
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Another word of the day from the past is serendipitous as in by subscribing to this list you have serendipitously stumbled upon a group of Exchange admins and consultants who, collectively, are worth more to you in terms of knowledge and assistance than any points you may win with one-line put-downs. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Wow look at you! Ineffectual! Do you know that was the word of the day on November 4, 2000? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14
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I think there is a registry switch to force it to scan the entire email (not just the attachment). That of course requires mapi/avapi mode as avapi only sees attachments (right?). The attachments probably make up 90% of the store anyway (huge powerpoints and such). I don't know if that switch affects the background scanning or not. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Tom, Actually (correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure someone on this list will), when the definitions are updated, it only rescans the attachments within the store, not the entire store. Therefore, if you are like Seielstad or Blackstone and block ALL attachments, g it should only take a couple of minutes to rescan the IS. Jim Blunt -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4
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Officer Barbrady Move along, nothing to see here. /Officer Barbrady -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW ! - -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I get your point. Move on. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Another word of the day from the past is serendipitous as in by subscribing to this list you have serendipitously stumbled upon a group of Exchange admins and consultants who, collectively, are worth more to you in terms of knowledge and assistance than any points you may win with one-line put-downs. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Wow look at you! Ineffectual! Do you know that was the word of the day on November 4, 2000? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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Dude, with the way you're acting, by the time you've finished today, most of us will have you in a kill file. Tone it down a notch, sit back, and learn how the community works. So far you've pissed on some of the most knowledgeable people on the list. Getting the last word in, when you were the one pouring brown stuff in the fan, is probably not the brightest move you could make. Tom. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I get your point. Move on. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Another word of the day from the past is serendipitous as in by subscribing to this list you have serendipitously stumbled upon a group of Exchange admins and consultants who, collectively, are worth more to you in terms of knowledge and assistance than any points you may win with one-line put-downs. - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Wow look at you! Ineffectual! Do you know that was the word of the day on November 4, 2000? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
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As an alumni of the original cabal my fees have been lifetime waived, newbie. ;) - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig By the way Daniel, your HOA fees are more than 6 months late... -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hey, Chris, pearls before swine, ya know? Besides, doesn't every mailing list all over the world fall to its knees and worship newbies? Michael: a friendly tip. This list has been in existence for about six years now (give or take) and many of us (moi aussi) are original list members. A community has developed out of this association and you're the guy who only just moved into the neighborhood. - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have for members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile. Until then... *plonk* -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I can see that this discussion list needs new members. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me when I get rollin'. ;) - Original Message - From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig This guy sure is a smart ass. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Chris Scharff| || chris_scharff@messageone| || .com| || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/14/2001 11:22 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- - -- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig | - -- | Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage
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LOL! Is it too much to ask, that when you click on something, something happens? [1] - Chris Scharff William [1] or close. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Who fsking cares? When there E2K product gets out of beta, perhaps it might be relevant on an Exchange list. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig For some odd reason SOPHOS was just voted number 1 AV product? Why is that? Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production exchange server. Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV product, so I don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' Exchange server. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS. Sophos is by far the greatest Anti Virus Software. Michael Woodruff System Administrator inChord Communications Inc. A group of communications companies providing clients unlimited visibility 614.543.6405 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF the background scanning option is enabled. The only drawback is that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the whole IS in the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store). In version 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new definitions are installed. How did you get version 2.17? We paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them to get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update. Tom -Original Message- From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig If you check the archives, I had and still have the same problem here with NAV and users not being able to move attachments. I had MS look at it and Symantec and both blamed each other. I ran optimiser and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't got round to yet) is checking the IS for corruption. What I have found is that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the outbox for a while. I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI. Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a. Stephanie. University of Glamorgan. UK -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Exactly. Well almost, I'm at the background part. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM
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You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you do run the optimizer, fine - it may well make a difference. On the other hand, if you still suspect the exchange anti-virus software, search for OpenRetryDelay on the MSKB . Read the entries that refer to adjusting this registry DWORD value to try and reduce the impact of the problem. It might make a difference. Cheers, Loftus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 December 2001 21:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm sure you wouldn't, Daniel, and Roger didn't say you were. Tony. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 13:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mistaken only in that the optimizer isn't necessary for single volume machines. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Ok this may be a stupid question but in the gross misunderstanding of the optimizer I best ask it, if I make changes to my AV or Exchange settings (Q270160) is it safe to assume I need to reboot or can I stop and restart certain services? e- -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mistaken only in that the optimizer isn't necessary for single volume machines. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Incorrect. The optimizer does more then shuffle files around. See my presentation from MEC 98 in Boston entitled Performance Optimization and Tuning for Exchange Server. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mistaken only in that the optimizer isn't necessary for single volume machines. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Restarting services is sufficient. - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Ok this may be a stupid question but in the gross misunderstanding of the optimizer I best ask it, if I make changes to my AV or Exchange settings (Q270160) is it safe to assume I need to reboot or can I stop and restart certain services? e- -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Mistaken only in that the optimizer isn't necessary for single volume machines. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Er, no I wouldn't. - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig You would be mistaken. The optimizer does a lot more than just shuffle disk storage around. Rerun it and see what happens. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
So your problem is the same one I ran into: -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it supported). -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode. -Users could not move multiple messages at once without errors. Also exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete export. -Went back to MAPI only mode. -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the background scan. No complaints yet, but I have not tried to break it either. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yes I am, I'll look for that option. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Are you running Norton AV for exchange? If so, there is a background scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new definitions arrive. Once they are prescanned, a multi message move will not require all the messages to be checked for viruses. I turned on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update came in the middle of that. Tom -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Yeah, what about it? The AVAPI in Exchange 5.5 and the AV apps written to use can cause timing deadlock errors. Both the ISVs and MS keep chasing it down but it seems they have yet to actually fix the problem. - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
So what your saying is there is nothing I can do about it now and to just be quiet and play with my tinker toys? -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Yeah, what about it? The AVAPI in Exchange 5.5 and the AV apps written to use can cause timing deadlock errors. Both the ISVs and MS keep chasing it down but it seems they have yet to actually fix the problem. - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Eric, This sounds more like a client configuration issue (Outlook), rather than a server issue, based on your statement Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. Several of my users, when trying to move large volumes of mail from their mailbox to a .pst file would get errors related to access denied and something to do with frmcache.dat. If this is indeed your situation, then this should fix the problem: 1. Close your Outlook and any open messages. 2. On the Windows taskbar, click Start, point to Programs, and then click Windows Explorer. 3. In Windows Explorer move to the C:\Windows\Forms folder on your hard drive. 4. Under the Forms folder, highlight everything ***EXCEPT THE CONFIGS FOLDER*** and press the DELETE key. When prompted, Are you sure you want to remove the folderfolder name and send all its contents to the Recycle Bin?, click Yes. 5. Restart Outlook and move your e-mails. James H (Jim) Blunt Network / Microsoft Exchange Admin. Network Infrastructure Group Bechtel Hanford, Inc. 509-372-9188 -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Optimiser does many things. It is generally a good thing to do after an sp install. http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/perfopt.as p William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
I too thought it was a client issue but I am getting calls in the 100's. And it also happens in both the Exchange client and in Outlook. But if it is a client issue then how could this have happened? If I am going to visit that many desktops then I would like to find a way to prevent it in the future so I can inform our install team. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Eric, This sounds more like a client configuration issue (Outlook), rather than a server issue, based on your statement Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. Several of my users, when trying to move large volumes of mail from their mailbox to a .pst file would get errors related to access denied and something to do with frmcache.dat. If this is indeed your situation, then this should fix the problem: 1. Close your Outlook and any open messages. 2. On the Windows taskbar, click Start, point to Programs, and then click Windows Explorer. 3. In Windows Explorer move to the C:\Windows\Forms folder on your hard drive. 4. Under the Forms folder, highlight everything ***EXCEPT THE CONFIGS FOLDER*** and press the DELETE key. When prompted, Are you sure you want to remove the folderfolder name and send all its contents to the Recycle Bin?, click Yes. 5. Restart Outlook and move your e-mails. James H (Jim) Blunt Network / Microsoft Exchange Admin. Network Infrastructure Group Bechtel Hanford, Inc. 509-372-9188 -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
Doh, thanks. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Optimiser does many things. It is generally a good thing to do after an sp install. http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/perfopt.as p William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+ -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig No I didn't run optimizer. My impression has been that if you have only one volume on the system optimizer isn't really needed. Perhaps I am wrong? Hasn't been ongoing, only the in last month. Guess it depends what you call ongoing. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig Did you run the performance optimizer after installing the latest service pack, et al or has this been an ongoing problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and someone suggested it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something to do with a scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about? I looked back but I cant seem to find it. Recap Single site, single domain. Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4 sp6 Users trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant move access denied errors. e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
