: MS Instant Messaging
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
Were you using IM on EX2000? Is there a migration tool?
- Matt
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From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bailey, Matthew
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
Were you using IM on EX2000? Is there a migration tool?
- Matt
-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [m
Were you using IM on EX2000? Is there a migration tool?
- Matt
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From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
We are using Live Comm. Server here in a pilot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
It worked 50% of the time for me on
: Aaron Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MS Instant Messaging
Does anyone here have much experience with IM server implementation?
Could anyone at least refer me to some good documentation or reference
material. There seems to be
It has reappeared in Live Communications Server 2003.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Instant Messaging
Why bother with it? It's gone
lf Of Aaron Greer
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MS Instant Messaging
Does anyone here have much experience with IM server implementation?
Could anyone at least refer me to some good documentation or reference
material. There seems to be precious little out
Does anyone here have much experience with IM server implementation?
Could anyone at least refer me to some good documentation or reference
material. There seems to be precious little out there, from Microsoft or
otherwise.
Thanks!
-A
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I am trying to install the instant messaging server portion of Exchange
2000 on an Exchange server that has e2k SP3 already installed. The
machine is running Windows 2000 SP3.
My plan was to add the Instant Messaging component from my Exchange 2000
CD, then re-install E2K SP3.
I am getting an
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[mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
Hi Greg. This reminds me of the days when Ed C. called you Deckler the
heckler. How have you been?
I th
support it 100%.
(:=
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[mailto:bounce-exchange-274642@;ls.swynk.com]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
Hi Greg. This reminds me of the days when Ed C. called
05, 2002 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
So IM is vile and inhuman technology, but email isn't? :)
I have to say, you've always got a different perspective on things, Craig!
I have to admit that if you have the time, I would personally LOVE to
r 04, 2002 9:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
>
>
> So "gold" is also the server name?
>
> I'm not familiar with IM on non-default virtual servers so the only
> other troubleshooting step I can suggest
> actual IM address as shown in ADUC on your account. Presumably
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan [mailto:jwright@;spectore.com]
> Sent: 04 November 2002 17:07
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troub
there.
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From: Mark Harford [mailto:mark.harford@;bbc.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
So "gold" is also the server name?
I'm not familiar with IM on non-default virtual serve
ssage-
From: Jonathan [mailto:jwright@;spectore.com]
Sent: 04 November 2002 17:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
Thanks for your reply.
I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the IM logon. My DNS is setup with the
SRV record under the _tcp folder listed a
Thanks for your reply.
I am using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the IM logon. My DNS is setup with the
SRV record under the _tcp folder listed as:
rvp service location [0][0][80] gold.domain.com
A Host record for the server (which has IM, E2K, IIS running on it) was
dynamically added to the DNS:
gold A
Message-
From: Jonathan [mailto:jwright@;spectore.com]
Sent: 04 November 2002 15:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging Troubleshooting
I have installed the Instant Messaging Service onto Exchange 2000 and I
have not been successful with connecting using the IM client. Here are
I have installed the Instant Messaging Service onto Exchange 2000 and I
have not been successful with connecting using the IM client. Here are
the configurations that I've used.
- 1 Exchange 2000 server.
- 2 DC's with Active Directory Intergrated Zone (dynamic)
- Created a
e-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Nelsen, Grant
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging with 5.5
I know Exchange 2000 has this, is anyone doing this with 5.5 ?
Grant S. Nelsen
Network Communications Manager
Office of Technology I
Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging with 5.5
>
>
> why would you want to do it with 5.5 ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nelsen, Grant [mail
d. Pretty sweet
alternative.
~John
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From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:thlabse@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging with 5.5
Not that I know of. IM for 2000 can be a pain though.
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I am 3 of 5.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:afyodorov@;innerhost.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging with 5.5
why would you want to do it with 5.5 ?
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From: Nelsen, Grant
Not that I know of. IM for 2000 can be a pain though.
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From: "Nelsen, Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:53 AM
Subject: Instant Messaging with 5.5
> I kno
why would you want to do it with 5.5 ?
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From: Nelsen, Grant [mailto:gnelsen@;sricboces.org]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging with 5.5
I know Exchange 2000 has this, is anyone doing this with 5.5 ?
Grant S
I know Exchange 2000 has this, is anyone doing this with 5.5 ?
Grant S. Nelsen
Network Communications Manager
Office of Technology Integration
Eastern Suffolk BOCES
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Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging
Oh !! what a timing . I finally got it working for all of my offices and learned the
hale lot about it on how to get it to work , NAT, DNS , Firewall , PROXY, Fixed p
I guess they read my mind :)
Or maybe I read theirs :)
P.S. every time MS releases something it claims "industry standard" which later turns
out to be not so standard. The current RVP-based Instant Messaging was also proclaimed
an industry standard. Then I had to use my scienti
ns
Subject: Instant Messaging
Before I go crazy, has anyone ever gotten Instant Messaging to work with
Exchange 2000?
This is like the third time I've tried on two different emails severs
and I always get this Signing into Communications service failed try
again later.
I have restarted WWW on the se
The next version will be:-
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/Oct02/10-08realtime.asp
Yours,
Julian Stone
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 October 2002 17:26 pm
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging
I got
with Exchange.
-Original Message-
From: Vincent Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging
Before I go crazy, has anyone ever gotten Instant Messaging to work with
Exchange 2000?
This is like the
Before I go crazy, has anyone ever gotten Instant Messaging to work with
Exchange 2000?
This is like the third time I've tried on two different emails severs
and I always get this Signing into Communications service failed try
again later.
I have restarted WWW on the server and triple checke
rator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
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From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and Instant Messaging
No... You'll need IIS, of co
No... You'll need IIS, of course, which is required for Exchange 2k
anyway.
-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:12 AM
Posted To: Exchange List
Conversation: Exchange and Instant Messaging
Subject: Exchang
All,
Quick quesiton. Does Instant Messaging for Exchange 2000 require that you
install Advanced Server? Please let me know.
Thank you,
___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTE
ork in the down level field.
-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sanity check - instant messaging
Hi all. I just wanted to see if I am still thinking straight.
Here is a scenario with IM
Hi all. I just wanted to see if I am still thinking straight.
Here is a scenario with IM:
Company FQDN - widgets.com. All mail is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Active Directory domain name however is corp.widgets.com
Is there a way to configure instant messaging so that it would accept logons
Open the port in the ISA config
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2002 8:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant messaging and ISA firewall clients
Clients behind an Exchange 2K - ISA server are able to send
Clients behind an Exchange 2K - ISA server are able to send instant
messages, but cannot receive them from Internet clients.
The internet client gets: "The following message could not be delivered to
all recipients"
I did everything the Q285781 (XCCC: Configuring Exchange 2000 Instant
This is what I found in the MS IM_setup.doc:
"If the home server also performs routing functions (for example, in a small
business that has one server with Instant Messaging connectivity to the
Internet), change the default domain name to the Instant Messaging domain
name (for ex
This is what I found in the MS IM_setup.doc:
"If the home server also performs routing functions (for example, in a small
business that has one server with Instant Messaging connectivity to the
Internet), change the default domain name to the Instant Messaging domain
name (for ex
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> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
> Sensitivity: Private
>
>
> Why you no answer my question!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:49 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Sub
Why you no answer my question!
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Sensitivity: Private
Sometimes it's best to lead by example. :)
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr
ch 28, 2002 10:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
> Sensitivity: Private
>
>
> Very subtle, but funny!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:31 PM
&g
Very subtle, but funny!
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Importance: Low
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/2000/IM_FAQ.asp
http
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
They definitely haven't answered yet.
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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Where are those
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> -Original Message-
> From: test [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Instant Messaging ???
> Importance
They definitely haven't answered yet.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Where are those smart people when we need them?
--Kevinm CHFR, M, WL
and it came from a "test" at csdarchitects.com which makes it so much more
important.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Oooo, Sent with High
:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Oooo, Sent with High Importance!
Well, we'll just have to get our best people on this one wont we.
-Original Message-
From: test [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange Discus
At least it didn't have a receipt request on there
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Oooo, Sent with High Importance!
Tener!!
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging ???
Oooo, Sent with High Importance!
Well, we'll just have to get our best people on this one wont we.
-Ori
Oooo, Sent with High Importance!
Well, we'll just have to get our best people on this one wont we.
-Original Message-
From: test [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging ???
Importance: High
Can someone
:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging ???
Importance: High
Can someone point me to a resource with a detailed description of the
Instant Messaging configuration (FQDN format, DNS, etc.) on a multihomed
DC with ISA or Proxy for web sharing
Can someone point me to a resource with a detailed description of the
Instant Messaging configuration (FQDN format, DNS, etc.) on a multihomed DC
with ISA or Proxy for web sharing?
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Check your dns.
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From: Exchange Newsgroups [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Instant Messaging with Exchange 2000
I have followed all the Q articles I can find on not being able to
I have followed all the Q articles I can find on not being able to
authenticate to the Instant Messaging server. It was working fine but
now all of the sudden no can log in. I keep getting the following
error;
Exchange Instant Messaging Sign-in Failure.
The person logged on to this computer
I have a W2K (SP2) dual home machine as a single server on a small LAN.
This machine is also an Xchg2k (SP2) + Web server with one static public
IP and one assigned, registered domain name (e.g. domain.com). Since I
have to provide I-net access to users, I'm using ISA server for web
sharing and c
hange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging Server?
Does anyone have an idea on how much resources this might use up on an
Exch2k server with 500 users?
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I'm pretty sure Exchange on handles the online buddy information, etc.
All the network traffic is client <> client.
-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 22 March 2002 6:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging Server?
Does
Does anyone have an idea on how much resources this might use up on an
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> Subject: Instant Messaging anti-virus programs
>
> Does anyone know of any instant messaging server side anti-virus
programs
> for Exchange 2000? I realize that once the clients connect, they are
> communicating directly with each other, thereby bypassing the ser
Does anyone know of any instant messaging server side anti-virus programs
for Exchange 2000? I realize that once the clients connect, they are
communicating directly with each other, thereby bypassing the server, so I
guess my question is two-fold: Is it possible to force all IM traffic
through
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Posted At: Sunday, December 23, 2001 10:10 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Instant messaging
Subject: Instant messaging
Help required in the firewall topology settings under instant messaging
setting in exchnage 2000.We have nearly 20 IM home servers an
Help required in the firewall topology settings under instant messaging
setting in exchnage 2000.We have nearly 20 IM home servers and one IM
router and 5 networks protected by firewall.I need some help in
configuring the http proxy for outbound requests.
Saju.S
I am facing a problem with the firewall topology settings under the
Instant messaging settings.Even thought the firewall subnet address is
mentioned any clients logging behind firewallis getting directed to the
home server for authentication.I have around 30 home servers and 23
firewalls.Please
, November 14, 2001 1:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging logging
My company is a securities firm and has various SEC requirements to follow,
including logging all communications with clients. This includes Email and
Instant Messaging communications. Users are usin various
www.assentor.com
not sure but they specialize in email capture for your industry.
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From: "Jonathan Beeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject:
Hello everyone,
I am having problems getting our IM to work on our Windows 2000 Server. I
have followed the setup directions and the error message I am getting when
trying to log in from a client system is as follows:
"Logon to Microsoft Instant Messaging failed because of a problem
conne
My company is a securities firm and has various SEC requirements to
follow, including logging all communications with clients. This includes
Email and Instant Messaging communications. Users are usin various types
of Instant messenger, including Yahoo, AOL, and MSN. We need to capture
that
: RE: API for Instant Messaging?
http://www.cdolive.net/samples/adusermanagement.eml has a sample WSH script
that shows how to use (undocumented) stuff how to enable a Windows 2000 user
for Exchange 2000 Instant Messaging.
Feel free to play with that stuff.
-Original Message-
From
http://www.cdolive.net/samples/adusermanagement.eml has a sample WSH
script that shows how to use (undocumented) stuff how to enable a
Windows 2000 user for Exchange 2000 Instant Messaging.
Feel free to play with that stuff.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL
Title: API for Instant Messaging?
I've dug around on the MSDN site but had no luck so far in searching a method to IM-enable a user programmatically at the time of creation.
We would like to script the process for IM-enabling a user object and dictate what that IM address will be r
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
Good point.. : > I meant the admin account or what ever it is.. The one
with all the power in exchange. Normally the
ber 05, 2001 10:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging: install problem
An account with the Exchange Full Admin right is what he should need.
Shema, Domain, Enterprise, etc. don't matter to Exchange 2K - it's the
Exchange-specific rights he needs. Also, Admin rights
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
Good point.. : > I meant the admin account or what ever it is.. The one
with all the power in exchange. Normally the
You are one step away from killing your Ex2000 installation.
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From: "Cassani Alexio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: insta
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging: install problem
Kevin, Exchange2K does not have a separate service account as with
Ex5.5; in Ex2K the service account is the machine account. Ca
: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
What do you mean?
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercoledì 5 settembre 2001 19.38
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subje
Ok, so first I need to change it, as now the Exchange service account is
the System Local.
Thanks for the help.
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercoledì 5 settembre 2001 19.46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Mes
ange Enterprise administrator? Does it have
modify schema rights?
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From: "Kevin Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
Messaging: install problem
What do you mean?
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercoledì 5 settembre 2001 19.38
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
>
>
> Try It as the service account
What do you mean?
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: mercoledì 5 settembre 2001 19.38
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Instant Messaging: install problem
>
>
> Try It as the service account for exchange. That
Try It as the service account for exchange. That will fix all of your
rights issues.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cassani Alexio
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messaging: install
Hi,
I'm tryiing to install Instant Messaging Service in a server running
Win2000 sp2 && Exch2000 Ent.
I've performed the installation process using a Terminal Service
session, and logging on with my administrator account (member of domain
admins and enterprise admins groups).
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