What is your sample size, and how are you measuring IOP? Are you using
a Goldmann machine in an ophthalmologists office? Who is doing the
measuring and what is their skill level and training? What's the IOP
history of your subjects before learning TM an TM-Sidhis? How many are
being treated for
Doesn't Rick have a point though? If IOP is significantly raised in a
statistically significant number of people practising TM and there is
a large population of those who have been practising for 30 plus
years, you would expect to see significantly more cases of ocular
hypertension and/or
If you don't present stats and don't prove any point, isn't it a bit
premature to ask What would make TM increase eye pressure? Shouldn't
you prove the cause and effect relationship before looking for the
physiological mechanism.
The questions you're asking about blood flow to the head etc.
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(The Malibu - SIMS crowd):
1. Jerry Jarvis
2. Keith Wallace
3.
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Try the warm Ghee eye bath for 3 days, twice a day, when you
are on holiday, and not driving or doing much.
The netra basti has
On May 15, 2008, at 1:14 AM, freeradicalfederation wrote:
I'll ignore your immature attitude and give you a chance to make an
intelligent comment.
Please don't hold your breath!
Off is one of the list trolls.
On May 15, 2008, at 2:20 AM, hermandan0 wrote:
What's the IOP
history of your subjects before learning TM an TM-Sidhis?
Precisely. And since this obviously isn't a random sample how do we
know this does not merely reflect a trend in the general population?
Proving some TM/TMS
On May 14, 2008, at 9:50 PM, yifuxero wrote:
--Statement below:
TM is an effective enough
technique that with steady practice all such questions get sorted
out and cleared up. Or you quit. Or you get neurotic. So no need to
talk much about it.
If that were true, Bevan, Hagelin, and the
David Lynch makes possible that secular TM might rise from the ashes
and realize its
potential in the lives of everyday Americans. TM might very well help
America to right itself
and halt its stumbling, bumbling fall.
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I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few times and
carefully said we might chalk that up to 'beautiful
unstressing...'
On May 14, 2008, at 7:08 PM, sparaig wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing Gurudev
floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few times and
carefully said we might chalk that
On May 15, 2008, at 8:26 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few times and
carefully said we might
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Great topic Curtis. I fully agree with you that these sorts of
experience can be very compelling. Off the top of my head here are
some orthogonal 'scales' on which the evaluation of a subjective
experience might be situated:
1. Realness (vague-real): How real does the experience seem? Is Guru
Really, the entire future of the pro-choice
movement rests on spitting in the eye of the
strongest woman candidate in the history of
the country, rather than waiting three more
weeks to put whatever organizational muscle
it has left after today to work for Obama,
that this sliver of times
Lawson wrote:
BOTH parties have known biases and BOTH parties
have obvious reasons for claiming special knowledge
about the situation and would benefit greatly from
damaging the credibility of the other side.
What reason would Chopra have to damage Mahaptra,
and how would Mahapatra
As one who was also present at the 2 dinners with Mahapatra in DC a
few years ago, I strongly feel that the account of events in Holland
that he told us were significantly colored by his deep sense of being
betrayed by the TM org. He said that he gave up a medical practice in
India to work for the
Thanks for your detailed answer to my question.
It was a completely off-the-wall question. We,
innocent lambs that we are, have been the victim of a
couple of hoaxes recently, and I have been toying with
the idea of constructing one in which I'd present some
negative findings related to TM and
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Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Subject experiences can only be validated by
epistemology - the valid means of knowledge.
The valid means of knowledge are:
Inference
Sense perception
Verbal testimony
According to René Descartes, the
An example of how learning to master meditative experiences can be
utilized. This is an excerpt from the teaching of a contemporary Bon
master in a Dark Retreat, a traditional retreat done in total
darkness which appears in many eastern traditions:
My dark retreat was very successful and
Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Vaj wrote:
It is something you should be instructed in by
an expert in your tradition.
That's knowledge by verbal testimony. But that is
not a very good source of valid knowledge. Your
friend or
Vaj wrote:
This type of meditational experience can be typical
of the type of purification experiences one has
during meditation. The only problem is when the
ego wants to interpret them as having any relative
value, as in Sandi's case.
Everything in experience has relative value, even
Curtis,
The movement leaders encouraged us to go with subjective speculations
quite a bit, but not nearly so much as Maharishi himself was allowed
to do. Maharishi was THE major violator of the standard TM advice
that we not give much importance to experiences during meditation
since just about
Are you saying you are certain none of those
people are enlightened?
Turq wrote:
I'm saying that I knew all of these people,
and that I've heard four of the seven clearly
say that they were NOT in CC or any other higher
state, long after the five-to-seven year mark.
In other
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But in TM, thoughts aren't ever distracting.
doesn't acknowledge that TM is different.
Lawson
I do not agree that thoughts aren't ever distracting in TM. My brother
once told me that he sat down to meditate and the
On May 15, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Curtis wrote:
By what criteria do we evaluate the validity
of subjective experiences?
Vaj wrote:
It is something you should be instructed in by
an expert in your tradition.
That's knowledge by verbal testimony.
gracious snip
Not
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snip The point is that the very existence of data on
On May 15, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
If I'm ever unlucky enough to meet one of the Rajas, the above is the
first thing I'll bring to his attention.
And not in a civil fashion.
Make sure you take a video camera for gawds sake! YouTube is waiting.
Duveyoung wrote:
[snip]
And for all the destruction of lives that
Andy then caused by leveraging his position
into a constant stream of boys into his bed,
I hold Maharishi responsible -- not quite
as responsible as the parents that allowed
Andy to maraud and rape, but quite
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matrixmonitor@ wrote:
Does the eye pressure stay elevated, or just elevate during TM? Could the
elevation be due to increased blood flow to the head, which is reported to
happen during TM, but which presumably drops after meditation? And if it
drops, would eye pressure also normalize?
No virus found in this outgoing
Angela - thanks for your useful questions! (And I understand why you
wanted to test my sincerity!)
Your question about other techniques is probably the best one anyone
has asked in this thread. There does indeed appear to be a difference
in the effect on IOP of different meditation techniques.
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Are you saying you are certain none of those people are
enlightened?
I'm saying that I knew all of these people,
and that I've heard
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I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few
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wrote:
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wrote:
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wrote:
Are you saying you are certain none of those people are
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Doesn't Rick have a point though? If IOP is significantly raised in a
statistically significant number of people practising TM and there is
a large population of those who have been practising for 30 plus
years, you
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Angela - thanks for your useful questions! (And I understand why
you
wanted to test my sincerity!)
Your question about other techniques is probably the best one
anyone
has asked in this thread. There
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Try the warm Ghee eye bath for 3 days, twice a day, when you
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Obama and Hillary is a winning team/Lou Valentino
Dear Friends of Fairfield,
Over the last two weeks I have felt a need to express my feelings
surrounding a very
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My preferred tonometers are the Pascal DCT, the ORA.
We have also started using the iCare. Our data on the iCare is very
supportive of that tonometer although I realize that the jury is still
out as far as the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 15, 2008, at 2:20 AM, hermandan0 wrote:
What's the IOP
history of your subjects before learning TM an TM-Sidhis?
Precisely. And since this obviously isn't a random sample how do we
know this does not
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wrote:
Or perhaps I haven't heard about it because it is a a parameter not
worth measuring, i.e. the increase in pressure is completely benign.
Seeing that TM is just a version of deep rest, I am at a loss why
any
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Does the eye pressure stay elevated, or just elevate during TM?
Could the
elevation be due to increased blood flow to the head, which is
reported to
happen during TM, but which presumably drops after meditation? And if
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are way off base. If you are one of the people for whom TM/TMS
elevates IOP to abnormal levels and you suffer vision loss as a
result, it will not be meaningless to you.
Is there some craziness in the air
On May 15, 2008, at 12:35 PM, freeradicalfederation wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 15, 2008, at 2:20 AM, hermandan0 wrote:
What's the IOP
history of your subjects before learning TM an TM-Sidhis?
Precisely. And since this obviously
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new wrote:
The article, and root of all of this sudden
interest was the study's finding that penis
size, length and girth, is enhanced with the
regular practice of TM.
It always come back to sex
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wrote:
snip
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere-- it is the physical movement
associated with the flying technique and/or the thinking at subtle
levels that cause this effect. Just TM won't do it, but the Sidhis
will.
When Edwards was endorsing Obama I thought Edwards was going after or Extremely
Highly considered for the VP position. The combination looked interesting.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course
Excellent essay, Sal, thanks. I'd personally like to come back to
some positive perspective on Senator Clinton and this really
provides me with a footing to that end.
Marek
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NEWS | OPINIONS | SPORTS | ARTS
Richard Hughes wrote:
It's coz it's spring RJ. The sap is rising,
all the young bucks are locking antlers
across the glen.
Young bucks?
New Government Seal:
http://tinyurl.com/63lysd
Duveyoung wrote:
I attended Andy's Self Inquiry course and saw
him working the boys in the crowd, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a background in scientific method and statistical
analysis?
yes
I don't practice TM in the traditional way and since I understand
the dangers of the TMSP, I wouldn't even consider practicing it.
I have
Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:21 AM
To: 'David
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On Behalf Of freeradicalfederation
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Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall a guy on our sidhis course who talked about seeing
Gurudev floating in lotus
position on a lottos blossom floating in a fountain of cherry
juice. The Sidhis Course Administrator blinked a few
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of freeradicalfederation
Sorry, I read the post too quickly. I thought it was posted by David
OJ himself. I know him - I'll get in contact with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation wrote:
One interest of ours has been in identifying meditation techniques
that either do not have the IOP-increasing side effect or that might
even have the effect of reducing IOP. Finding such a meditation
technique could be of
---Nothey were lying to you and telling me the truth. You project
a certain level of abrasiveness which might turn people off. They
would then tend not to divulge their innermost secrets to you.
On the same level of credibility - 1. Jerry Jarvis, 2. Charlie Lutes
(when comes to discussing
Actually, although Curtis and I have never
discussed it, I suspect he posts the occasional
sex remark for the same reason I do. That is,
there are so many people here uptight about sex
that it's fun to bring the subject up and watch
them squirm. :-)
I think I'm more of a people pleaser,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---Nothey were lying to you and telling me the truth. You
project a certain level of abrasiveness which might turn people
off. They would then tend not to divulge their innermost secrets
to you.
Ok. What
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation wrote:
One interest of ours has been in identifying meditation techniques
that either do not have the IOP-increasing side effect or that might
even have
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Young bucks?
New Government Seal:
http://tinyurl.com/63lysd
How apt Willy...and now with California Slouching towards Gomorrah
with the approval of gay marriage!! It's a sad day.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote:
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One interest of ours has been in identifying meditation techniques
Curtis wrote:
I keep imagining that Richard isn't actually
being a prude, but is using it as a stick to
poke at us. I could be wrong, but I keep
thinking he is being a lot funnier than I
have given him credit for in the past. At
least that is the spin I am choosing for him
right now.
How could a person find out if they high IOP? I like to do shoulder stand and
also
headstand.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
wrote:
snip
Aha! Now we're getting somewhere-- it is the physical movement
associated with the flying technique and/or the thinking at
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curtis wrote:
I keep imagining that Richard isn't actually
being a prude, but is using it as a stick to
poke at us. I could be wrong, but I keep
thinking he is being a lot funnier than I
have given
Why can't you guys just tell us the truth?
Curtis wrote:
You are a hard one to figure out Richard.
Well, I agree with almost everything you've
written, so I guess the other informers are
just liars of the lowest sort.
You can't make this stuff up - I read it here,
but I didn't see
Richard, you’ve reached your posting quota for the week. Please cool it
‘till Saturday.
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Good questions. I'll answer them below.
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Why can't you guys just tell us the truth?
Curtis wrote:
You are a hard one to figure out Richard.
Well, I agree with almost everything you've
written, so I guess the other informers are
just
Hey Free.
Free Radical
thanks for your detailed account. Here, in case you
find it useful, is an account of a technique involving
eyes that comes with its own advanced technique and
that I've practiced for decades. It does for sure
produce the depth of experience that I hear about from
the TM
You have got to be kidding. That's how an enlightened
fart greets what may well be very useful new
knowledge? And where's the harm in honest inquiry?
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You have got to be kidding. That's how an enlightened
fart greets what may well be very useful new
knowledge? And where's the harm in honest inquiry?
it smells like fish Angela and I trust my intuition. And no
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7390109.stm
Some might say they're pretty nice with a little cooling, too.
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And for all the destruction of lives that Andy then caused by
leveraging his position into a constant stream of boys into his bed, I
hold Maharishi responsible -- not quite as responsible as the parents
that allowed
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willytex@ wrote:
Curtis wrote:
I keep imagining that Richard isn't actually
being a prude, but is using it as a stick to
poke at us. I could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How could a person find out if they high IOP? I like to do shoulder stand
and also
headstand.
The highest correlation, according to what I have read, is between IOP and
the ability of your body to compensate for
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
How could a person find out if they high IOP? I like to do
shoulder stand and also
headstand.
The highest correlation, according to what I have
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I repeat my 2nd question above, with amplifcation:
even if he had
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After the article today in a prestigous journal in its field, The
Journal of Anatomy and Physiology, publishing a 10 year,
peer-reviewed, study on 2000 TM meditators, 1000's of people flocked
to TM centers throughout
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On May 14, 2008, at 7:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
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[..]
Be careful with your controls. There are controls that mimic TM quite
precisely. I could post them if
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wrote:
Lawson wrote:
BOTH parties have known biases and BOTH parties
have obvious reasons for claiming special knowledge
about the situation and would benefit greatly from
damaging the credibility of the
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As one who was also present at the 2 dinners with Mahapatra in DC a
few years ago, I strongly feel that the account of events in Holland
that he told us were significantly colored by his deep sense of being
betrayed
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
But in TM, thoughts aren't ever distracting.
doesn't acknowledge that TM is different.
Lawson
I do not agree that thoughts aren't ever
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Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
1) a very dark room;
2) very sensitive light-detecting equipment.
more info here:
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Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
1) a very dark
Ha ha, Bill'O top rated video on YouTube
Very funny Bill O'Reilly Flips Out - Remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2YDq6FkVE
OffWorld
Thanks, I do see a good ophthalmologist about every year, and I will ask him
about all of
this, including testing me after I do a headstand. With yoga classes so
popular these
days, and nearly everyone doing headstands and other inversions, this IOP is
something
worth getting figured out.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, freeradicalfederation
no_reply@ wrote:
Can you point me to more information about the instrumentation
required to measure ultraweak photon emissions? Thanks
1) a very dark
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It is true that it is extraordinarily difficult
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Furthermore, that doesn't address the issue of why TM would
increase
eye pressure (IOP) to start with.
Er..it doesn't.
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Furthermore, that doesn't address the issue
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It is true that it is extraordinarily difficult
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Thanks, I do see a good ophthalmologist about every year, and I
will ask him about all of
this, including testing me after I do a headstand. With yoga
classes so popular these
days, and nearly everyone doing
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But in TM, thoughts aren't ever distracting.
doesn't acknowledge that TM
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