[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now why would anyone want to leave after such a warm welcome. Your effect is working, Turquoise I was attempting open, civil discourse and you showed yourself with one post. As did you. ONE person pokes a little

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- tertonzeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Right. Most succintly, there have been no clear testimonials of first hand GC (embracing Celestial/Glorified) levels of awareness; and how this is to be distinguished from

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body digests food, or in changes in metabolic rate, or a host of other things besides raw caloric intake as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone was asking here recently what we thought, as TM-tru- believers. Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. It takes awhile to soften the environment ... we anticipate that as America becomes truly invincible,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turquoise the reason that I asked that you not send posts to my mame is because I find you to be angry, sad and lacking social behavior. Be alone for a while, it will be better. Learn a little honesty, dude. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 6:44 PM, sparaig wrote: Wait loss can come about due to changes in how your body digests food, or in changes in

[FairfieldLife] MMY: Every question is a perfect opportunity...

2008-06-21 Thread TurquoiseB
...for the answer we have already prepared. Most of us remember this line of Maharishi's from TM Teacher Training. Has there EVER been a statement more condescending, and showing less respect for the individual asking the question? And yet, that is *exactly* the formula that many on this forum

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Effect as bad AC software

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:10 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:37 PM, sparaig wrote: There currently is no salient theoretical basis for the effect.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Use the razor on your beliefs, not just your tonsure.

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Your in other words above isn't a non sequitur, but that ain't what I called a non sequitur. I wasn't looking for you to be blown away, compelled,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered jmknapp53@ wrote: Did you read either the post that starts this thread or the 13-year-old post I linked to? Wow ! A 13 year old post? ! I didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Charming Early Maharishi Interview on CBC Vancouver TV

2008-06-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Early Maharishi Interview on CBC Vancouver TV Online Video 4:48 minutes To Play Video, Go To: http://www.cbc.ca/asianheritage/media/mahesh.ram You will need Real Player software to play this video clip.

[FairfieldLife] Re: CO'B and DC!

2008-06-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---He still uses his TM mantra, but you append money at the beginning. I guess at least people in the USA can watch the Full Episodes here: http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O%27Brien/index.shtml I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread Peter
--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone was asking here recently what we thought, as TM-tru- believers. Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. It takes awhile to soften the environment ... we anticipate that as America becomes truly invincible, then every aspect of life

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What would FFL be without its most strident voices?

2008-06-21 Thread Peter
Hehe!!! Good post Off --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , danfriedman2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I believe you to be a man of conscience and good will. If some of your moderation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg Not sure how this URL got into the Trancenet Alert! post. It's a video made from Google Earth that zooms in on crop circles throughout Europe as they appeared on Google

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following is a series of posts made by John Knapp (taskcentered) on alt.meditation.transcendental in June 1996 (a year after he claims he began writing about reforming TM). Ellipses are mine; I took out some extraneous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone was asking here recently what we thought, as TM-tru- believers. Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. It takes awhile to soften the environment ... we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg Not sure how this URL got into the Trancenet Alert! post. It's a video made from Google Earth that zooms in on crop circles throughout Europe as they appeared on Google

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: Turquoise the reason that I asked that you not send posts to my mame is because I find

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unnoted snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Following is a series of posts made by John Knapp (taskcentered) on alt.meditation.transcendental in June 1996 (a year after he claims he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: There's a history here you aren't aware of. Thios Fairfield life is way more complex than I'd expected. I'm just a simple boy from Harlem, NY. Can someone fill me in on WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Hugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following is a series of posts made by John Knapp (taskcentered) on alt.meditation.transcendental in June 1996 (a year after he claims he began writing about reforming TM).

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-21 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- tertonzeno tertonzeno@ wrote: --Right. Most succintly, there have been no clear testimonials of first hand GC (embracing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Excellent video. I love that people do stuff like this. Making crop circles must be the most quaint hobby of English hippies that still goes on. A duo called Doug and Dave started making them in the 70s to see if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yeah Judy, I'd love to see the actual news reports on this Global genetic and biological warfare Mahesh warned us of, as I must've missed that! Thanks for warning us of this imminent disaster! Well, Vaj, it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: snip The above of course is IMHE and is subject to different mileage from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:49 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yeah Judy, I'd love to see the actual news reports on this Global genetic and biological warfare Mahesh warned us of, as I must've missed that! Thanks for warning us of this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Muktananda's experiences of the subtle levels of creation.

2008-06-21 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: [snip] ...in the middle of my backyard, under the shadow of my avocado tree, [snip] Now, THIS I want to know more about! I

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if?

2008-06-21 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread nablusoss1008
Dear Friends, Right now, Fox News is trying to paint Barack Obama as foreign, un-American, suspicious, and scary. They're trying to send Americans the message that our country's first viable Black candidate for President is not one of us. I've joined on to ColorOfChange.org's campaign to push

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: Every question is a perfect opportunity...

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The bottom line is that Judy remains consistently afraid to deal with any of John's suggestions. Actually, to the best of my recollection, this is the first time he's made any such suggestions for reforming TM, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bubba Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread hermandan0
Bubba Wynne Coherence brings balance in nature. The events in Iowa and elsewhere are a real disaster, but such events don't happen in one day. They build up over time... In fact, the karma causing these floods was caused by the fallen Vedic ancestors of North American Native forsaking their Vedic

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY: Every question is a perfect opportunity...

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...for the answer we have already prepared. Most of us remember this line of Maharishi's from TM Teacher Training. Has there EVER been a statement more condescending, and showing less respect for the individual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, Vaj, it was *averted*, don'cha know. That was kinda the point of opening TM centers in third world countries. Oh, I see, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy. Amazing! I'm not sure you're perfectly clear on what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered jmknapp53@ wrote: Did you read either the post that starts this thread or the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread taskcentered
Clear, but inscrutable. What is your reason for posting to a thread you are not interested in discussing? J.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
Although I share the outrage about Fox News's dirty tricks, it represents the splintering of news agencies aimed at specific markets. There has always been bias in media, but in the past it either pretended to fair or actually tried. Now with 24 hour coverage fighting for our eyeballs news has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, Right now, Fox News is trying to paint Barack Obama as foreign, un-American, suspicious, and scary. They're trying to send Americans the message that our country's first viable Black candidate for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg Not sure how this URL got into the Trancenet Alert! post. It's a video made from Google Earth

[FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I share the outrage about Fox News's dirty tricks, it represents the splintering of news agencies aimed at specific markets. There has always been bias in media, but in the past it either pretended to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
I make a habit of, on a daily basis, not only reading David Horowitz's frontpagemag.com (cnservative) but Ariana Huffington's huffingtonpost.com (liberal). I try to do the same. The only problem is that sometimes it creates false polarity options on issues. I am seeking some more balanced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread taskcentered
Judy, Thanks for posting these pages from Trancenet -- from so very long ago. (The url is now http://www.trancenet.net/alert.shtml , if anyone cares to see them in their original setting.) You've claimed I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that I lied about something in these posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Mayor Wynne speaks for us collectively. snip You're either with us, or against natural law. Get right with the Law or you're just a negative draw. That's a phrase borrowed from the Christian movement: Are you right with the Lord The story I heard was that Billy Graham asked that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clear, but inscrutable. What is your reason for posting to a thread you are not interested in discussing? What an odd question. You've already forgotten what you and I were talking about, and that our exchange

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mayor Wynne comments on Iowa floods

2008-06-21 Thread hermandan0
Doesn't the ME forward lag effect state that the length of time until ME effects are seen and the number of excuses why they are not increase exponentially with the length of time a city/town/region/country/planet etc has been invinbicile? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: unnoted snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Following is a series of posts made by John Knapp

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Vaj
On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:24 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, Vaj, it was *averted*, don'cha know. That was kinda the point of opening TM centers in third world countries. Oh, I see, it was a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2008-06-21 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Photos/EEG decrease.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Graphic representation of alpha decrease during the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:50 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I would be interested in how others are trying to balance their media biased news sources. I don't--I get mine directly from God. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, Thanks for posting these pages from Trancenet Actually, I got them from the alt.m.t archives (as should be obvious from the list of 10 different Usenet newsgroups to which you posted them). And I didn't post

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip Excellent video. I love that people do stuff like this. Making crop circles must be the most quaint hobby of English hippies that still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, Thanks for posting these pages from Trancenet -- from so very long ago. (The url is now http://www.trancenet.net/alert.shtml , if anyone cares to see them in their original setting.) You've claimed I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Of course not. But I have no interest in the politics of destruction. I am interested in reform in the TM Movement. Which is the topic I posted on. Can you tell me why you're not interested in discussing TM Reform? You've posted numerous times you have things you take the Movement to task for.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C-_Nr4kJcg Not sure how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip So Judy, are you saying that MMY *didn't* make these claims about an upcoming

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Louis McKenzie
Yeah Judy I guess the Tm movement has so pretty strong cool aid --- On Sat, 6/21/08, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 12:55 PM --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip True. And others, who've read enough of the research to realize the likelihood of the circles all having been made by human beans with a rope and a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not. Then your question to me made no sense. But I have no interest in the politics of destruction. Why, how could anyone think such a thing? I am interested in reform in the TM Movement. Which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on this. Doesn't mean he couldn't have seen what he thought was the real danger of war as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Maybe if John is reading this he can elucidate on what he actually knew about what the TMO was doing or whether it's part of a Stop the TMO at any lengths campaign. I'd be interested to know why he spends so much energy on it. Hi, Hugo, I'd be glad to elucidate if I can. I never had a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
I think someone should come up with a list of ways to improve the way the TMO is run, make them accountable. That sort of thing. Hi, Hugo, I did just that a couple days ago. See the topic: Memo to the New TM Leaders: How NOT to be a cult. I'd love to get your input on it. Perhaps you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I've always thought that people who leave organisations like this rail against them in proportion to how much they felt they were taken in by it they were before they got disillusioned. Heavens, just think what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Except, of course, that the billions are in the custody of the TMO. He didn't do much for himself with them, did he? Ummm, did you not get the memo about his golden toilets? I saw them at Livingston Manor. I've been told they were there in Europe as well. Just a symbol of what the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
I'm guessing you're referring to my slip of tense. My bad. Yes, the Maharishi has passed on. J. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, taskcentered jmknapp53@ wrote: Judy, Thanks for posting these pages from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Kenny H
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except, of course, that the billions are in the custody of the TMO. He didn't do much for himself with them, did he? Ummm, did you not get the memo about his golden toilets? I saw them at Livingston

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
I'm not interested in discussing it *with you*. You sure seem interested in discussing something. You seem very concerned about my character. Can you point me to one person that felt I personally harmed them? In any way? I've certainly never received such a complaint. There are dozens

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count -- New Week Begins

2008-06-21 Thread Bhairitu
ruthsimplicity wrote: Oops! It appears I deserve punishment. I didn't bother to count so ban me for the week. I need a break anyway. I post the totals for the week after 7 PM each night. So it should be easy for anyone to check. Just look for the Post Count message. Sometimes I may

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Hell, I *started out* disillusioned with the TMO. I always thought it sucked big-time and have seen no reason to change that opinion. That's why its more recent antics (rajas and recerts and so on) didn't surprise or upset me. You offer this generality over and over again. I don't see how

[FairfieldLife] More from Knapp

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
First, if you'd like to get a better idea of why many of us do not find Trancenet a reliable source of information understatement on TM/MMY/the TMO, have a look at this page: http://www.trancenet.net/secrets/checking/overview.shtml From my perspective as a long-time TMer and trained (but not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread gullible fool
  I don't--I get mine directly from God.   Has God been posting today, Sal?   I don't know, cause I've got Him on block. --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
I'd be interested to know why he spends so much energy on it. Seems to be an enduring compulsion on the part of certain former-TMers-turned-TM-critics. I can't speak for John's motivations, but I can say for myself that the desire for truth and speaking out against what I perceives as

Re: [FairfieldLife] More from Knapp

2008-06-21 Thread Louis McKenzie
I received Checking notes various times and never saw anything about blackouts...a long time ago but as I remember it.   --- On Sat, 6/21/08, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] More from Knapp To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except, of course, that the billions are in the custody of the TMO. He didn't do much for himself with them, did he? Ummm, did you not get the memo about his golden toilets? I saw them at Livingston

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if John is reading this he can elucidate on what he actually knew about what the TMO was doing or whether it's part of a Stop the TMO at any lengths campaign. I'd be interested to know why he spends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think someone should come up with a list of ways to improve the way the TMO is run, make them accountable. That sort of thing. Sorry man, that was my idea of a joke. I was kind of teasing as that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Trying to take me down for over a decade, as passionately as you are here on FFL, seems to me like swatting flies with nukes. Try contemptuously. It's not the fact that you're a TM critic with a well-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell, I *started out* disillusioned with the TMO. I always thought it sucked big-time and have seen no reason to change that opinion. That's why its more recent antics (rajas and recerts and so on) didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip I've always thought that people who leave organisations like this rail against them in proportion to how much they felt they were taken

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not. But I have no interest in the politics of destruction. I am interested in reform in the TM Movement. Which is the topic I posted on. Can you tell me why you're not interested in

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] TM is just like screwing

2008-06-21 Thread Rick Archer
A friend's recollection of that event: It was in response to Michael Laughrin's questioning, which had gone on for two days. Michael had been involved in some born again Christian stuff and felt that TM was Christ's message after all and he wanted to publicize it. He felt that we were hiding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip I've always thought that people who leave organisations like this rail

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Colour of Change

2008-06-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:09 PM, gullible fool wrote: I don't--I get mine directly from God. Has God been posting today, Sal? Top secret, gull. You know, purity of the knowledge and all that. I don't know, cause I've got Him on block. Sunblock? Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Judy has no CHOICE but to attempt to discredit the people here she doesn't agree with, John. She can't come up with any arguments to make her POV look sane or rational; therefore she HAS to attempt to make those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Hi, TurquiseB, You may be right about the TM leaders. They may or may not change. But bigger organizations than the tiny TM movement have been changed from within. The Reformation changed the Christian church. Mahayana changed the face of Buddhism. Even the modern Catholic Church is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
Hi, Hugo, One of my major flaws is I can be slow on the uptake. Sorry I missed the joke! J. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW jmknapp53@ wrote: I think someone should come up with a list of

[FairfieldLife] Pakistani Truck Art

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
Just like the Billboard painting performed in Pakistan, there is another indigenous form of art performed in Pakistan and it is the Truck Painting. With its all colorful floral patterns, depiction of human heroes with creative aspect ratios, calligraphy of poetic verses and driver's words of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread John M. Knapp, LMSW
What I would like to know is where you got the news of MMY claiming a biological war was immanent, I heard many highly dubious statements like that, partly why I got pissed off with it. Do you have a press release with it on? Thanks for taking the time out to reply. Hey, no problem.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Memo to New TM Leaders: How NOT to Be a Cult

2008-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the end, we are the source of all power within the TM Org. It's our money they're spending. It's our allegiance that gives them the illusion of power. Not sure how much of *our* money--those of us on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I would like to know is where you got the news of MMY claiming a biological war was immanent, I heard many highly dubious statements like that, partly why I got pissed off with it. Do you have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is just like screwing

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
Rick: Now that you have published your friend's recollection, I know exactly which Maharishi tape you are talking about. It wasn't that Maharishi said TM is just like screwing; it was that Maharishi was telling the TM teacher who also happened to be a born- again Christian not to screw people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread mrfishey2001
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A very very big so what It was Maharishi's TM Movement, we participate freely and willingly for whatever our reasons were and still are for some. Some moved on, some found ways to make their peace with the conflict they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Kenny H
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps at the moment we can do no better than freely and willingly – I think further reflection would prove otherwise. Are you thinking perhaps of Geraldine (Flip Wilson)- ...the Devil made me do it? Delighted

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is just like screwing

2008-06-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
When Laughrin said to Maharishi that Christ died for my sins, Maharishi responsed: Did he die for you or did he live for you? That, to me, says it all. That one line says all at once what is wrong with Christianity today and what Christianity needs more than anything. That one line,

[FairfieldLife] Obama polishes his resume

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
Obama Polishes His Resume June 21, 2008 His first ad of the post-primary season puffs up his legislative accomplishments. Summary Obama has released his first post-primary ad, a 60-second spot that's airing in 18 battleground states. In effect, Country I Love is Obama's first ad of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is just like screwing

2008-06-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Laughrin said to Maharishi that Christ died for my sins, Maharishi responsed: Did he die for you or did he live for you? That, to me, says it all. That one line says all at once what is wrong

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is just like screwing

2008-06-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
So, I don't really care what Maharishi's motivation was or whether he said it because of where he was coming from, all I can tell you is that his is one of the few explanations of Christianity that ever made sense to me. Yeah, my point may have little do do with how you are relating to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW jmknapp53@ wrote: Except, of course, that the billions are in the custody of the TMO. He didn't do much for himself with them, did he? Ummm, did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trancenet Alert!

2008-06-21 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW jmknapp53@ wrote: Except, of course, that the billions are in the custody of the TMO. He didn't do much for himself with them, did he? Does anyone know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop circles on Google Earth

2008-06-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

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