[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-12-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“Schismogenesis” Quoting Atmore: “The idea of “schismogenesis” was first identified by Gregory Bateson to describe the ways in which relationship between individual or groups deteriorate. Schismogenesis occurs in several different ways: factional schismogenesis , in which a group

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-10-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
., ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Take a look at this, it’ll look very familiar: https://masterangels.org/ https://masterangels.org/ As will the prices. You can buy a General Admission Ticket (lol) to one of his intro courses for the low, low price of $250 for the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”

2019-04-01 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Take a look at this, it’ll look very familiar: https://masterangels.org/ As will the prices. You can buy a General Admission Ticket (lol) to one of his intro courses for the low, low price of $250 for the day. Or, if you want to meet with the Master himself, a “Golden Pass” is the way to go,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”

2019-03-31 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”

2019-03-31 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis ”

2019-03-31 Thread feste37
Hey Sal, At last we can agree on something! How many years has that taken? We should celebrate or something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-03-31 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
I have several friends, people I thought would surely know better. It seems with MMY gone the “head guru” field is wide open. And I see once again people are granting themselves phony degrees and calling each other “dr.” Sal > On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:31 PM, feste37 wrote: > > > > I have

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-03-31 Thread feste37
I have seen someone get sucked into this "Master John" cult, and it is not pretty. Supreme Grand Master? Oh, come on . . . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Book: Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ Mission and Earth Ascension By Dr.

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-03-31 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Book: Supreme Grand Master John Douglas and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Christ Mission and Earth Ascension By Dr. Susan Andersen, under guidance from the Divine Masters with a Foreword by Dr. Christopher W. Hartnett and Dr. Linda Saint-Denis Hartnett Possibly more than a tax shelter church,

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-02-10 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Cognitive dissonance, a TM v Yogic Flying Schismogenesis? /Schismosis? Asking around here about the ‘schism’ at the time that ‘yogic flying’ came out and people here are noting that a number of even their own TM initiators who taught TM in the mid and later 1960’s and the very early 1970’s

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Q:The tru-beliver would look at it that there is a schism where people would go off to see other gurus or spiritual people and groups? A: "That is their problem and it does not have to have anything to do with what people are doing out here in the community. But it is in the complexion of

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Meditator Quakers.. A history of Ff’s silent Quaker meetings #385494 Friends Journal article, The TM Diaspora... https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385494 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385494 ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-28 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“People, meditators are for getting done what needs are for themselves as what they are getting done communally.” “Within the various meditator infused churches, temples, and spiritual groups, in Fairfield, Iowa this has not just only to do with groups meditating, the transcendent is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-25 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yet, People, practicing meditators were disaffiliated from the group? A: Just on the intellectual level of belief by personality of administration. The naturally limiting value of beliefs is that not everyone is going to believe the same thing. Just like a forest of trees are not going to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-16 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“Is it necessary for something to be strong for everyone to act and behave in a similar way on a behavioral level? This is one of the amazing things about Fairfield, Ia. is that it proves ‘no you don’t have to be’. That you can have wildly different people who believe, have wildly different

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Using “schismogenesis” as an anthropologist's social science vehicle for driving through the Fairfield, Iowa story becomes a whole different level of exploration into the story of community. At a Communal Studies Association Annual Conference I presented a paper as an overview road-map

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Is not this diversity in community with the transcendent experience a good thing? That you could have such diversity exploring and such unified perspective. Avenues of teachings, pathways or faithways that relate. Informed by experience, is that diversity a schism or a healthy diversification?

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Is not this diversity in community with the transcendent experience a good thing? That you could have such diversity exploring and such unified perspective. Avenues of teachings, pathways or faithways that relate. Informed by experience, is that a schism or a healthy diversification? ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-10 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
‘Schismogenesis’? What a hoot. Someone got their doctorate coming up with that term. Q: In a communalism that is here in Fairfield, Ia. it is interesting to see that there has been overt and covert schismatic processes going on that is reflected in subsets of community that are here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-10 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"..Some types of schismogenic behavior are expressed, yes. But what we have here in community is there is ‘no schism is possible in consciousness’. She, the author of the paper is not going to see that because she does not meditate, she is not going to understand what that means and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In Fairfield conversation.. Q: Schismogenesis in the Fairfield meditating community? A: On the superficial level there is some but experientially not so much. There are going to be the whack-jobs like (..) that are fractured, the mentally fractured. There is mental fracturing as that is

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Exampling Schismosis: Factional schismogenesis, in which a group splinters What TM movement community meditators can recognize as a creed, a difference with those who are seen as ‘devotee’ True-Believers’ with an orthodox faith and belief and then ‘practitioner meditators’ who are here in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks,dbraff8. You give a good example that is noteworthy in aspect of what is communal meditating Fairfield, Iowa having withdrawn or disaffiliated itself from TM.org-Fairfield strictly, either covertly or overtly. A Lot of people have come and are now gone away and yet there remains in

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Schismogenesis”

2019-01-08 Thread dbra...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fascinating. I Googled the author and title to read the entire piece. I taught and practiced TM for over 35 years. It was invaluable earlier in my life. I look on my spiritual journey as starting with being a devout Catholic, experiencing spiritual malaise, finding TM, dissatisfaction,