[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
Shiva's figure rests on another figure in the same pose who is Shava, the corpse. This figure, which is not in contact with the feet of the Divine Shakti, looks the same as Shiva but has closed eyes, no erection, and no expression. He, too, is covered in ashes but rather than a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shiva's figure rests on another figure in the same pose who is Shava, the corpse. This figure, which is not in contact with the feet of the Divine Shakti, looks the same as Shiva but has closed eyes, no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are special characters for vowels as first sounds of a word (after a pause), so that ishava would look totally different from shiva. In the hebrew alphabet the number seven (7) is shiva. And one typical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [quoting Shemp:] A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread Marek Reavis
Card, thanks, and I think that's what Zimmer explained, too. In his essay he wrote something about the devanagari script that in the transformation of Shava to Shiva the element necessary for that transformation(representing Mother Divine) preceeded but that no essential change occurred to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Card, thanks, and I think that's what Zimmer explained, too. In his essay he wrote something about the devanagari script that in the transformation of Shava to Shiva the element necessary for that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2007, at 9:51 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? Yes, it's rather common.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2007, at 10:50 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? When the thousand-petalled lotus first appeared over my head on a TM- sidhis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Peter
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? When the thousand-petalled lotus first appeared over my head on a TM-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The blue pearl is a bindu. A point of entry into some sort of loka of consciousness. Brilliant blue spark in awareness that opens up with golden light pouring out surrounded by a blue rim. When it completely opens there's an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 26, 2007, at 10:50 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread curtisdeltablues
A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was supposed to be a state between the dreaming and waking consciousness. Although the book was not about meditation, the book describes some of the attributes of the hynogogic state. It may

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was supposed to be a state between the dreaming and waking consciousness. Although the book was not about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: While it does vary from system to system, the blue bindu is like a gateway to the maha-bindu beyond the sahasara. At that point, the maha-bindu, you are beyond the mind. Until then, everything will appear to be inside

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Rory Goff wrote: While it does vary from system to system, the blue bindu is like a gateway to the maha-bindu beyond the sahasara. At that point, the maha-bindu, you are beyond the mind. Until then, everything will appear to be inside the bodymind, like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure, but I also see both as seamless sameness. Nicely put :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2007, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: The blue pearl is just a relative phenomenon. Neat, cool, groovy, whatever, but it is still an object of experience. You're just as bound whether you stare at porno or experience the blue pearl. Ultimately it is meaningless in the context of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **snip** Yes. The transcendent is the bindu beyond the blue bindu-window of the upper sahasara. It's the window of pure consciousness. You probably also remember Baba's experience of the bindu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Vaj
On May 27, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: That last paragraph reminded me of a section in Heinrich Zimmer's Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization where he does this wonderful deconstruction on the image of Kali standing astride the reposed forms of Shiva/Shava and how that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was supposed to be a state between the dreaming and waking consciousness. Although the book was not about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: A few years ago, I was leafing through a psychology book which discussed a concept called hynogogia. This was supposed to be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness This book was not MMY's but Muktananda's. You are getting them all mixed up in this post. was first called

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. M. describes out he was able to travel out of his body riding the Blue

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-26 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. M. describes out he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? When the thousand-petalled lotus first appeared over my head on a TM- sidhis prep course in about '78, it looked much like a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.

2007-05-26 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. Play was one of those watershed books for me. The genuiness of his