[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-14 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-14 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
sparaig: one of my favorite quotes from MMY: Spiritual and Material Values Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
Your response really makes me think Richard. I am reading a book that explores this question from a slightly different angle. It is called, The Mind and the Brain, neuroplasticity and the power of mental force. by Schwarty and Beggley. It discusses a theory of how the mind influences the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
curtisdeltablues: Your response really makes me think Richard. I am reading a book that explores this question from a slightly different angle. It is called, The Mind and the Brain, neuroplasticity and the power of mental force. by Schwarty and Beggley. Thanks for the info.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: curtisdeltablues: Your response really makes me think Richard. I am reading a book that explores this question from a slightly different angle. It is called, The Mind and the Brain,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ wrote: curtisdeltablues: Your response really makes me think Richard. I am reading a book that explores this question

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
zarzari: Maharishi came from one of the most conservative traditions in India. He would never teach us the Gayatri mantra, would he? The recitation of the Gayatri isn't neccesary in the practice of TM. That's because the Gayatri isn't considered a bija mantra in the Tantric Tradition.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@ wrote: curtisdeltablues: Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread authfriend
Curtis, are you aware that Schwartz is a proponent of Intelligent Design? According to Wikipedia, Schwartz has signed the Discovery Institute's A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism. The Discovery Institute promotes the idea of Intelligent Design as a means of having creationism taught in public

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy sometimes you really come through, big thanks. I was unaware of this connection and greatly appreciate your pointing it out. I actually got the book because it seemed to push back on my POV, so it seems it will do so in spades, it is even more useful than I thought. He is a specialist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-11 Thread sparaig
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology   one of my favorite quotes from MMY: Spiritual and Material Values Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-10 Thread zarzari_786
Thanks, Bhairatu, I have a friend who is (or was) heavy into Shiva puranas, I will ask him. I was especially interested in the cloth thing. I think, in the beginning Maharishi probably took more things from scripture, or 'translated' it into western terms, then maybe later. --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-10 Thread Bhairitu
The cloth thing is a pretty obvious analogy for sadhana leading to moksha. Anyone could have thought of it. I didn't come to TM as a spiritual neophyte. I learned some yoga asanas back in 1970 and a couple weeks later sat trying a mantra meditation out of a book. In 1972 a girlfriend gave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-10 Thread PaliGap
Bhairitu: Keep digging your hole and eventually you'll reach China. You live in Chile? http://map.talleye.com/bighole.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread turquoiseb
Excellent comments, Curtis. You cut right through the case-hardened-from-being-left-to-dry-in-the- soma-green-cowpasture-of-enlightenment-too-long bullshit and get right to the heart of the matter. I simply can't wait for one of the professional TMO apologists who haunt this forum to try to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread zarzari_786
Curtis, this is all very funny, hilarious. Regarding this 'DNA resetting', just the thought came to me of something Vaj had mentioned in another post (knowing a little bit of the Indian mindset): caste! For Indians, its all in the blood. For Indians, being vegetarian is no much good unless your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Price
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com snip   Excellent comments, Curtis. You cut right through bullshit and get right to the heart of the matter. I simply can't wait Me, I'm still getting over the shock of learning... Who IS this old

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bhairitu
Some of the Indian teachers who have migrated to the west consider westerners who are intellectuals to be Brahmins. And tantrics don't restrict their teachings to Brahmins. I've always considered the caste system just to be a way of helping people understand their dharma but not necessarily

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: Curtis, this is all very funny, hilarious. Regarding this 'DNA resetting', just the thought came to me of something Vaj had mentioned in another post (knowing a little bit of the Indian mindset): caste! For Indians, its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 12/09/2011 09:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786no_reply@... wrote: Curtis, this is all very funny, hilarious. Regarding this 'DNA resetting', just the thought came to me of something Vaj had mentioned in another post (knowing a little bit of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bob Price
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com snip Americans are what he called the mix-ups and that we would require more purification than Indians to get enlightened ***I can confirm the veracity of this statement.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
zarzari: ...caste! For Indians, its all in the blood. The Indian 'caste' system is based on birth-curcumstances, 'jati', not on skin color or blood type. Jati pertains to class - social and economic conditions in clans, tribes, communities and sub-communities and linguistics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread zarzari_786
Nobody spoke of blood type. Think of idioms like `its in the blood` http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?word=in+the+blood --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: zarzari: ...caste! For Indians, its all in the blood. The Indian

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bhairitu
On 12/09/2011 12:45 PM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: Bhairitu: It is a conditioning of the nervous system. Enlightenment doesn't have anything to do with the human nervous system. If it did, we could see it and measure it and replicate it. The enlightened state is a state of mind; a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
It is a conditioning of the nervous system. Enlightenment doesn't have anything to do with the human nervous system. If it did, we could see it and measure it and replicate it. The enlightened state is a state of mind; a state where we percieve reality as it really is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
zarzari: Nobody spoke of blood type. Think of idioms like `its in the blood`... The 'caste system' in India is a foreign idea, imported into South Asia with the arrival of the Arya-speakers from the Caucasus area. The native inhabitants did not have a social system based on skin color or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Susan
But no one really knows how to measure enlightenment in the brain, or where exactly to look in the nervous system yet. They are getting closer to having the equipment and understanding to do this. Having a change in the nervous system if one shifts in to enlightenment does not change anything

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 12/09/2011 09:52 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786no_reply@ wrote: Curtis, this is all very funny, hilarious. Regarding this 'DNA resetting', just the thought came to me of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: zarzari: Nobody spoke of blood type. Think of idioms like `its in the blood`... The 'caste system' in India is a foreign idea, imported into South Asia with the arrival of the Arya-speakers from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Bhairitu
The Shiva Purana has the water the root to enjoy the fruit thing (some claim to have found it elsewhere too, not surprised). The cloth analogy may have been there too but that was in the late 1970s when I read it. MMY didn't invent a lot of stuff, he just repeated things that were found in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus
Bhairitu: It is a conditioning of the nervous system. Enlightenment doesn't have anything to do with the human nervous system. If it did, we could see it and measure it and replicate it. The enlightened state is a state of mind; a state where we percieve reality as it really is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread sparaig
one of my favorite quotes from MMY: Spiritual and Material Values Every experience has its level of physiology, and so unbounded awareness has its own level of physiology which can be measured. Every aspect of life is integrated and connected with every other phase. When we talk of scientific

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-09 Thread Emily Reyn
not. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 8:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology   one of my favorite quotes from MMY: Spiritual and Material Values Every experience has its level

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread whynotnow7
What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM practitioners too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Maharishi's Global Family Chat Summary December 3, 2011 Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM practitioners too. Jepp, you'll have no problems attending this Jim :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
Quoted from claims: What you see you become Putting our attention on the Vedic sequence creates brainwave coherence Maybe this was tested, maybe not. Does anyone know? It is quite a claim that would require evidence to be believed. I suspect that the old Maharishi flying coherence move is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread whynotnow7
I'll probably hack my own version together at some point. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: What a good idea - I like the price, and it appears it is open to non-TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread zarzari_786
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: But I may be wrong, who knows what genetic resetting is and how we know mental processes accomplish this. I don't even remember any TM research that approaches this level of fantasy claim. Curtis, you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary Results from Course on Vedic Physiology

2011-12-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: But I may be wrong, who knows what genetic resetting is and how we know mental processes accomplish this. I don't even remember any