[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-09 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Curtis, I think you studied hypnotherapy? Does it make you wonder if Lenz did some sort of mass hypnosis? Sorry I missed this first time around Bhairitu. The way I'm thinking about it is that he didn't have to DO anything.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Susan, I'd like to do what I forgot to do when first replying, and thank you for the way in which you asked your questions. That is, curious and more than a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
turquoiseb: turquoiseb: I really *DO* feel that I can get a good intuitive sense of the overall vibe or *intent* of a post from the first 10-20 words of it I see in Message View... Actual photo of Fredrick Lenz levitating. http://www.rickross.com/groups/lenz.html The odd thing is that,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Well, if you are so worried about your online reputation, maybe you'd want to skip the 'ball gag' jokes! Lol! I am always confused when you bring this up because when you do a search on this term, you have to go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
Well, if you are so worried about your online reputation, maybe you'd want to skip the 'ball gag' jokes! Lol! curtisdeltablues: I am always confused when you bring this up because when you do a search on this term, you have to go back to Jan 09 for my last use of the term in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread awoelflebater
I have no trouble believing Lenz is levitating in this photo. What I can't believe is that there are really mountains that beautiful on this earth. Now that is a stretch in terms of credibility, a true wonder. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Well, if you are so worried about your online reputation, maybe you'd want to skip the 'ball gag' jokes! Lol! curtisdeltablues: I am always confused when you bring this up because when you do a search

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread awoelflebater
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Well, if you are so worried about your online reputation, maybe you'd want to skip the 'ball gag' jokes! Lol!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-08 Thread Emily Reyn
accounts of levitation that ring true   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Well, if you are so worried about your online reputation, maybe you'd want to skip the 'ball gag' jokes! Lol! curtisdeltablues: I am always confused when you bring

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Barry, when you saw Lenz levite 1. had you heard before that he did this sort of thing? No. Not the first time I saw him/it. Susan, I'd like to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: You are not interested in the argument that can be made against your judgment on this issue of miracles, Curtis--and your way of making sure your judgment remains as it is, is to insinuate a protocol of debate which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Barry, when you saw Lenz levite 1. had you heard before that he did this sort

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: That's my reading of the situation. No you don't get to claim this after both parties have refuted this interpretation. What you are doing it trying to repeat an unsupported accusation meant to give a false

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread merudanda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDgIvlonhYfeature=player_embedded#! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDgIvlonhYfeature=player_embedded#! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: snip (I just got my magazine page from the 1930s of Santa with a cigarette

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: You are not interested in the argument that can be made against your judgment on this issue of miracles, Curtis--and your way of making sure

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread merudanda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDgIvlonhYfeature=player_embedded#%21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDgIvlonhYfeature=player_embedded#! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, .. so how about you do it-- wasn't stardust this reindeer cornflakes --whatever it is that made the children who walk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread Share Long
: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Barry, when you saw Lenz levite

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: You are not interested in the argument that can be made against your judgment on this issue of miracles, Curtis--and your way of making sure your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Barry, when you saw Lenz levite 1. had you heard before that he did this sort

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-07 Thread Richard J. Williams
...do you really think this particular post of Ravi's was geared towards harming your online reputation? curtisdeltablues: Yes I do and I'll tell you why. This is the second time he has accused me of making threats online... Well, if you are so worried about your online

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html It's just a shame that they seem to have stopped just before the invention of cinema.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html It's just a shame that they seem to have stopped

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html It's just a shame that they seem to have stopped

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: The veracity or purported veracity of an eyewitness account is of course a special field of investigation. But, even were I totally skeptical, I would, in going through all what is said in this article, find my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Robin Carlsen
Curtis, the fanaticism of your disbelief is more unyielding to reality--or any ontological contingencies--than the fanaticism of those Evangelical Christians who tried to make you Accept the Lord into you life. I don't quite understand it, but there is a ferocious intransigence there, almost as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html Proof that God heals amputees: http://youtu.be/PmH1YggCQ7Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Robin Carlsen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html Proof that God heals amputees:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: http://www.miraclesofthesaints.com/2010/10/levitation-and-ecstatic-flights-in.html Proof that God heals amputees:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Curtis, the fanaticism of your disbelief is more unyielding to reality--or any ontological contingencies--than the fanaticism of those Evangelical Christians who tried to make you Accept the Lord into you life. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: Curtis, the fanaticism of your disbelief is more unyielding to reality--or any ontological contingencies--than the fanaticism of those Evangelical Christians who tried to make you Accept the Lord into you life. I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: snip I think if cinema had been around in the 13th to 16th centuries in particular, the Holy Ghost might have permitted there to be a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: I've heard it all before actually, levitation, sea serpents, UFOs from venus, they all disappear once understanding increases to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for weighing in Barry because this demonstrates what I was trying to get at with Robin. I was looking for the reasons he has for giving these accounts credibility. Your reasons are transparent, you witnessed it. Even then you show some restraint in evaluating what it all means and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Share Long
the presence of So And So and You Know Who, that's saying a lot.    From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Emily Reyn
Yup, Barry, the upsurge in creative posts is inspiring.   From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread Bhairitu
Curtis, I think you studied hypnotherapy? Does it make you wonder if Lenz did some sort of mass hypnosis? There was this Sci-Fi series called Stormfront was based on a series of books about a supernatural investigator by a martial arts instructor. In one episode a character was doing shape

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread wayback71
Barry, when you saw Lenz levite 1. had you heard before that he did this sort of thing? 2. can you recall if you and others present all described seeing exactly the same thing, including small variations, without cuing each other and leading each other? In other words, did the reports of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: TurqB, if this took some courage to post, which I'm guessing it did, I thank you for that. He has told this story again and again for many years before you arrived. I don't doubt his story, but suspect he is telling it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: TurqB, if this took some courage to post, which I'm guessing it did, I thank you for that. He has told this story again and again for many years

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true

2012-09-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: Barry, when you saw Lenz levite 1. had you heard before that he did this sort of thing? No. Not the first time I saw him/it. 2. can you recall if you and others present all described seeing exactly the same thing,