[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
One more thing to add to what I wrote below: A certain someone preferred to use the name Barry for the first 20 or so years of his life because he felt uncomfortable with the given name on his birth certificate. Perhaps that tells us something about interacting in America with a name

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Shemp, I missed the remark you posted from Obama under your own name, so I won't comment on that. And as to a young person's insecurities re how they might best fit in with a world which for them is defined by all sorts of mis-matching pieces (single mom, absent dad, stepfather, Indonesia,

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread grate . swan
Marek, Do you hold out any probability that Shad has something useful to say, some insightful life experience to share? To answer yes, is certainly NOT equivalent to i) believing everything he says is useful or valid, and 2) agreement with his views, and 3) that some of his views are not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread I am the eternal
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Marek Reavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.netwrote: L.Shaddai's remarks, both his original post and subsequent replies, contained clear and offensive indicators that he believes blacks are inferior and debased; he was not expressing concern for the well-being of

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Duveyoung
Grate.swan, I awed by your balance. If you and Marek can keep this dialog going, it's gunna be terrif. Glad you're posting here. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Marek, Do you hold out any probability that Shad has something useful to say, some

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Comments interleaved: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Marek, Do you hold out any probability that Shad has something useful to say, some insightful life experience to share? **snip Certainly. However, so far on this issue he has spoken in terms

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Marek Reavis wrote: In my first comments to L.Shaddai, however, I made particular point not to call him a racist. Rather, I commented that his statement was racist and reprehensible. A strong assertion, true, but it was an acknowledgement that perhaps he was not

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Sal, since my posts are to be consigned to L.Shaddai's trash, it seems unlikely that there'll be any further dialogue on the subject between us. L.Shaddai obviously doesn't believe that he is prejudiced, and to whatever degree that belief informs or moderates behavior, all the better. What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: What Edg pointed out earlier, however, is true for all of us, I feel. As primates we are quick to recognize distinctions and if we have been trained (by education or experience) to associate certain differences with bad, then it's understandable

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
It is, Sal, . . . most of the time. So far, so good. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: What Edg pointed out earlier, however, is true for all of us, I feel. As primates we are quick to

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Marek: Aside from the comments I-am-the-Eternal made in the post about naming kids in the African-American community, what else has he said that indicates he is a racist? Or is that all that you are referring to? I can't seem to find another original post that he made that I can construe as

[FairfieldLife] Re: I am the eternal not racist and in fact shows concerns for Blacks

2009-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Shemp, Hey. Look, I've got no agenda against L.Shaddai personally and no wish to catalog all the statements he made that I found to be offensive. What I'd suggest to you is this: within the thread, just go through his posts and substitute the phrase Shemp and his whole family everytime he