With the realization of God comes all power. If the little wave knew that
behind it is the great ocean, it could say, I am the ocean. You should
realize that just behind your consciousness is the Ocean of God.
~Paramahansa Yogananda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
It's funny to see how the TMO guys have begun to reassert tiny bits of
individuality. Hagelin abandoning in this video the standard issue beige suit
for a blue plaid jacket, though his unidentified companion maintains the
movement uniform.
I haven't watched a lot of Hagelin speaking but I was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
... But Nader is obviously a brilliant man and has applied
a good deal of his energy to trying to make parallels between
Vedic scriptures and some aspects of science. Maybe they
made him up well for the taping, but he sure
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
... But Nader is obviously a brilliant man and has applied
a good deal of his energy to trying to make parallels between
Vedic scriptures and some aspects
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
No, he ain't no 180 pounds. He ain't no sheep-sheerer neither and not worked
at a real job in a long time. I'd wager a 105-pound shrimp wet. But I
still like him regardless. I'd be in his corner rooting and I don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
... But Nader is obviously a brilliant man and has applied
a good deal of his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
i agree with much of what you have said. I have never
looked at Nader or Hagelin as scientists and that was
not my argument in my posts. I see them smart men and
as former scientists who are trying to make parallels
On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:56 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Color me unimpressed. There may or may not be any value
in spending a huge amount of time in Maharishi's presence,
and neither I nor anyone here knows anything about his
supposed state of consciousness. But I do not for a moment
consider him a
On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Actually not. The Dalai Lama is on record as saying
that science should be used to investigate Buddhist
dogma, *but* that if the science winds up disproving
the dogma, then it's the *dogma* that has to change,
because it's wrong. Can you imagine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
[...]
i agree with much of what you have said. I have never looked at Nader or
Hagelin as scientists and that was not my argument in my posts. I see them
smart men and as former scientists who are trying to make parallels
In fact, MMY's original theory was overturned by a PhD thesis published out of
MIU many years ago. He assumed that the [apparent] breath suspension that often
appears during Pure Consciousness episodes was driven by oxygen consumption,
but it was shown, by analyzing the O2 consumption of people
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Say what you want, but without those initial tweaks, which Hagelin gets full
credit for from his co-authors, you wouldn't have seen Revised Flipped SU(5)
make it to the cover of Discover magazine and so on. And those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Say what you want, but without those initial tweaks, which Hagelin gets
full credit for from his co-authors, you wouldn't have seen
I mis-typed. scientists sometimes informally call a theory 'disproven when
numerous studies fail to reject the null hypothesis...
Just to nit my nit-pick...
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Say what you want, but without those initial tweaks, which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
I mis-typed. scientists sometimes informally call a theory 'disproven when
numerous studies fail to reject the null hypothesis...
Just to nit my nit-pick...
Oh, I didn't read that before my nit-pick.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
Maybe MMY should have given Hagelin his weight in gold to sort
out an experiment, *that* would have impressed the world. A lot
more than his current job of conning his gullible flock for
yagya donations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
And he got to live there
in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of --
involving having his cooks prepare him seven different
meals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got
to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of sparaig
[...]
At one point, I recall that Ted Wallace (one of the Wallace kids at least)
was working with abu Nader on some research
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of sparaig
[...]
At one point, I recall that Ted Wallace (one of
It could have been for something as simple and straightforward as paying for
his student loan for MIT:
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/overv.chap4-costs.html
Currently, it looks like a grad student would pay about $200,000 to get a PhD
at MIT.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
It could have been for something as simple and straightforward as paying for
his student loan for MIT:
http://web.mit.edu/catalog/overv.chap4-costs.html
Currently, it looks like a grad student would pay about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Yep, he's come to a point in a career of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave the crown behind to
get bigger-time on the spiritual teacher circuits. It is exciting to watch,
kind of like in
To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political
agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without
any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly these rajas
look at their role playing.
If you can't levitate or bring
Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or
maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered rich guy, maybe a
baron or a count who lives in Luxemborg or some other tax-haven-supported,
European principality.
His talk, such as it was, wasn't anything
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Yep, he's come to a point in a career of having to leave
the crown behind to get bigger-time on the
The question is-Who is the 'man' behind the mask? And if he came out, would
he be welcomed? or would he become another persona non-Grata like a Charlie
Lutes or a Jerry Jarvis or (insert your favorite name).
Charlie used to say being 'spiritual' is just being natural, just being who you
are,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Yep, he's come to a point in
Maybe the turtleneck will be his signature style, enabling folks to recognize
him at a glance. The crown and silk kaftan would even moreso establish a
signature sartorial splendor.
***
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote:
Maybe the turtleneck will be his signature style, enabling
folks to recognize him at a glance. The crown and silk
kaftan would even moreso establish a signature sartorial
splendor.
Trying not to be more unkind than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
To drop using the king title is to directly refute Maharishi's political
agenda for the movement's future. To eschew it so nonchalantly and without
any announcement about its being back-burnered, shows how shallowly
Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be a valid
checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to know his checking
notes.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's going to be
a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one FFLer who's sure to
know his checking notes.
There used to be an HTML based checking guide online where you could
do it on your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
Nabby, will you check me by phone? I need to know it's
going to be a valid checking session, and YOU'RE the one
FFLer who's sure to know his checking notes.
Please tape it, Edg. I for one can't wait to get to the
to part
Vaj,
Self checking -- who doesn't do it? I never thought my meditation instructions
were not being honored, and yet there's always someone like Nabby who contends
that a long time meditator can be off somehow and deeply into straining and
forcing the mantra or whatever.
As if. 49,640 hours
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
Please tape it, Edg. I for one can't wait to get to the
to part where the TMer being checked says, I transcended
for the entire 20 minutes...not a single thought in that
time, and Nabby says, Yes, good, fine, etc. Now describe
to me your
On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
Self checking -- who doesn't do it? I never thought my meditation
instructions were not being honored, and yet there's always someone
like Nabby who contends that a long time meditator can be off
somehow and deeply into straining and forcing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc but only as Tony
Nader. No titles, no nothing. So, at least on the videos, he's not in a formal
setting.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrTonyNader?feature=watch
Note though, that he's not presenting himself as Raja etc
but only as Tony Nader. No titles, no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
Nabby, will you check me by phone?
Given your erratic outbursts I guess it would take some time. The rate from
here with my subscription is about 1 dollar a minute. Can you afford that ?
I need to know it's going to be
What do you mean even he? I have never gotten the impression that he enjoys
being king. In fact, I have always noted a slight discomfort when he's wearing
his crown and such.
As far as I am concerned, the crown thing is meant to prevent another Deepak
Chopra where the TM organization expended
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
My bet is that the people who believe this have never
actually checked another TMer's meditation, and learned
that the supposedly Expert System designed to handle any
eventuality...uh...can't, and that if you follow
Eh, MMY liked him.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote:
Though Tony Nader isn't identified on these YouTube videos as being king or
maharaja he stills comes across as some kind of pampered
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
What do you mean even he? I have never gotten the impression
that he enjoys being king. In fact, I have always noted a
slight discomfort when he's wearing his crown and such.
As would be expected, in a relatively sane
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Eh, MMY liked him.
See my previous post.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
Ahem.
Tony Nader was *LONG* after my time. I never encountered
his holy countenance while still a part of the TMO, and
: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king schtick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Eh, MMY liked him.
See my previous post.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
Ahem.
Tony Nader
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
I mean, dude. Saudi Sheiks can't get away with this shit.
You sound more than unusual bizzarre today Turq. Perhaps these people can be a
help:
http://www.aa-netherlands.org/drupal/amsterdam
On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:09 PM, sparaig wrote:
Eh, MMY liked him.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
Intelligent and charming actually would. One thing that’s not mentioned enough
is that the guess does beguile with intelligence and sincerity. He truly
believes
On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got to keep the
money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up.
A great interview question for you. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
I wonder whether, when he was given his weight in gold, he got
to keep the money, or whether the TMO scarfed it up.
FWIW, from the press release announcing the event:
Professor Nader will be seated on one side of a special
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Eh, MMY liked him.
See my previous post.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
Ahem.
Tony Nader was *LONG* after my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that
Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking
Procedure? It's as if they really believe that all life's
problems can be solved by getting a checking.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
More seriously, isn't it fascinating the reverence that
Nabby (and not just him) has (have) for the TM Checking
Procedure? It's as if they really
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Assuming that this WAS part of MMY's purpose with the crown thing, it was based
on personal experience with another charismatic (remember that this is abu
Nader's first introduction to the general public) person whom he promoted high
into the TM organization. Say what you will about Bevan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Eh, MMY liked him.
See my previous post.
Also, pampered rich guy may not be a proper description of him.
Ahem.
Tony Nader was *LONG* after my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:04 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony drops the king
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
And he got to live there
in the kind of style that we have all heard rumors of --
involving having his cooks prepare him seven different
meals each night, so that he could peruse them and then
reject all but one,
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