[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-05 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Not all quantum physicists are lazy, Jason, but the resident science writers on this forum sure seem to be so. One guy is a true believer in human levitation and the other guy still prays to the Hindu gods twice a day. One other informant seems to think that shunning works as a debate tactic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?   My paternal haplogroup, which occurs almost exclusively in a small percentage of Ashkenazi Jews, originated in the Caucasus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
just say We don't know but the event is analyzable . . . then go home and have dinner with the SO. Instead of calling it 'random' - which is just woo for science folks who are afraid the conversation might degrade into talking about spirits or the soul. But then, I'm a hard ass : )

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
We show that European and Near Eastern lineages largely fall into discrete, ancient clusters, with minor episodes of gene flow, suggesting that haplogroup K diversified separately in Europe and the Near East during the last glacial period.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
According to you, all the quantum physicists are lazy? I suppose assuming about spirits and soul, is hard scientific work? You sure are a hard ass. --- inmadison@... wrote : just say We don't know but the event is analyzable . . . then go home and have dinner with the SO. Instead of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--- anartaxius@... wrote : This is not necessarily so. Comments in your text. I'd like to riff on this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : Xeno, let's use a little logic here. If you existed before you were born, you will continue to exist after you die. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They were the original inhabitants of the Americas. Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate country of their own. That is not necessary either. The Ashkanaz

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Whereas claiming that it is possible to understand everything ISN'T lazy?  :-) From: inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?   By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They were the original inhabitants of the Americas. Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Italy and other parts of southern Europe. From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random? By the logical extension of your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
4, 2015 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random? By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They were the original inhabitants of the Americas. Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-04 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
By my logic those that won the war get to do what they want with the land and the resources. Since the Allies won the war they got to chop up the Middle East how they saw fit and so they drew lines in the sand on ethnic and language lines. There are no Red Indians in North America the native

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, let's use a little logic here. If you existed before you were born, you will continue to exist after you die. If you didn't exist before you were born, you will not exist after you die. The law of karma or balance is a very subtle law, compared to other gross laws of physics. That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, let's use a little logic here. If you existed before you were born, you will continue to exist after you die. If you didn't exist before you were born, you will not exist after you die. The law of karma or balance is a very subtle law, compared to other gross laws of physics. That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Stop this bullshit willytex. No referendum was held in that territory. God is not a real estate dealer. The UN stole that land from indigenous people. They called other communities dogs for centuries. But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had an unclean spirit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Using inference as a valid means of knowledge, we infer that there is intelligence in the universe, otherwise logic would dictate to us that there is no order, only chaos. According to my logic professor, A.J. Bahm, if appearances derived through one sensory channel appear contradictory, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long before the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have any historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was called Judea? I think not. Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
It might be helpful to define karma as used in Indian doctrine. The theory of karma is dirt simple: all things fall down; human excrement always flows downstream; gravity sucks. It's not a metaphysics - it's just an observation that holds true for everyone and everything. You strike a billiard

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
In computer science where random number generators are frequently used there has been a lot of study of this and many agree nothing is really random. Best random number generators were ones that took analog video noise for a number. On 02/03/2015 01:55 PM, inmadi...@hotmail.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is not necessarily so. Comments in your text. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : Xeno, let's use a little logic here. If you existed before you were born, you will continue to exist after you die. If you didn't exist before you were born, you will not exist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-03 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Claiming some event is random just means the event is too complicated and we don't understand it yet. So there is no calling a thing random, that is only being lazy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is interesting to know what the current

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is interesting to know what the current

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share Jason Share, I do believe you never consider anything as a statement of logic. Settling for the sense of it on resonance, which is really a subtle sense of feeling allows one to bypass figuring out what it might mean. If beyond thought and feeling, that puts it beyond understanding. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?   Share Jason Share, I do believe you never consider anything as a statement of logic. Settling for the sense

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : What do you mean by moral reciprocity? Moral reciprocity concerns the mental effects based on the theory of karma. We know that there is a natural physical law in the universe which we call cause and effect which the ancient Indians

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jason, There are still Jews who consider themselves as the Chosen People here in the USA. They may or may not be Zioneists. Nonetheless, they follow several hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship. They still frown upon intermarriage with outsiders or goyim. I've posted the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
According to Sam Harris, a person’s conscious thoughts, intentions, and efforts at every moment are preceded by causes of which we are unaware. All our thoughts and actions have causes which is the basis for causation as opposed to free will. Because of ignorance of the past we get moral

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-02 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
According to what I've read, so-called non-Zionist Jews are pleased that Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't generally assign religious significance to the formation of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-01 Thread salyavin808
Interesting. You could call it Spock syndrome a belief that logic is all you need, but without the creativity coming up with the ideas for your logic to sort through you won't achieve much of anything at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : So you are a random

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-01 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-01 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-01 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-02-01 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, What do you mean by moral reciprocity? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Based on the theory of karma, there are no chance events - everything happens for a reason. Karma works on all levels, from a single bade of grass up to the highest devas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
None of us is a machine or random in here. According to rabbi Kraft, humans came from Adam and Eve. In Hebrew word analysis, Adam means both the spirit of Hashem and the mud from the earth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you machinelike or random?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Really? I read these traits in the posts here. Perhaps people don't understand the question. On 01/31/2015 09:41 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: None of us is a machine or random in here. According to rabbi Kraft, humans came from Adam and Eve. In Hebrew word analysis, Adam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you machinelike or random? Yes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : None of us is a machine or random in here. According to rabbi Kraft, humans came from Adam and Eve. In Hebrew word analysis, Adam means both the spirit of Hashem and the mud from the earth. Are you in the process of converting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, even the mechanistic psychology of stimulus and response. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Carrots for sale, and my watch says 25:00 hours. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you machinelike or random?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinking about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Based on the theory of karma, there are no chance events - everything happens for a reason. Karma works on all levels, from a single bade of grass up to the highest devas. According to the theory of karma, the is causation and reaction - human excrement always flows downstream and gravity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is interesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?

2015-01-31 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
So you are a random then. Which fits your online personality and since you are a creative person is what you want to be. The genesis of these terms is that random was applied back in the 1980s and 90s to the programmers that tended *not *to be methodical and engineering types but more