On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:31 PM, raunchydog wrote:
Not sure what you're looking for Lawson, but according to my
checking notes in the general point Over Powering Thoughts when
it's not possible to pick up the mantra we let the mind be easy and
the mind will be naturally drawn to some physical
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never
even a
checker. ;-)
As several initiators have explained to him before, he has some real
OCD and errant ideas about what TM is.
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:25 AM, sparaig wrote:
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wrote:
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My point is that its not an either/or, or more importantly,
that ease is the guideline rather than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never
even a
checker. ;-)
As several initiators have explained to him before, he has some real
OCD and
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On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:25 AM, sparaig wrote:
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
My point is that its
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:25 AM, sparaig wrote:
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ANd of course, there's nothing wrong with thinking the mantra
AND solving problems/planning/etc if that happens to be the
way your mind is working at that moment.
No nirodha
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:25 AM, sparaig wrote:
snip
ANd of course, there's nothing wrong with thinking the mantra
AND solving problems/planning/etc if that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never
even a checker. ;-)
As several initiators have explained to him before, he has
some real OCD and errant ideas
On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:08 AM, cardemaister wrote:
No nirodha for you then.
Bullshit!? You seem to think 'citta-vRtti-nirodha' applies only
to 'asaMprajnaata-samaadhi'?!
Kind of irrelevant re: TM when neither occurs in that practice.
Practicing an ineffective relaxation technique is like
But, why would knowing a lot of mantras and lots of
hand gestures give anyone more 'knowledge' experience
than TM with it's single bija mantra?
Bhairitu:
Sorry but I've never found anyone who stuck to the
narrow teachings of MMY who had much experience and
knowledge anyway.
So, why
Most mantra meditations teach that if you have a
thought during meditation to just return to the
mantra.
But that's not the complete response for TM, now
is it?
Bhairitu:
What I said is certainly the gist of it. Meditation,
even the TM kind, isn't all that technical.
So,
You seem to think 'citta-vRtti-nirodha' applies
only to 'asaMprajnaata-samaadhi'?!
Vaj:
...you could practice TM for centuries and the person
might be relaxed but the same old impressions/samskaras
remain. If you don't practice correctly, you get the
heel of the loaf, not even a
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never
even a checker. ;-)
As several initiators have explained to him before, he
On 04/13/2012 04:40 AM, Vaj wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never even a
checker. ;-)
As several initiators have explained to him before, he has some real
OCD and errant ideas about what TM is.
Either that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:08 AM, cardemaister wrote:
No nirodha for you then.
Bullshit!? You seem to think 'citta-vRtti-nirodha' applies only
to 'asaMprajnaata-samaadhi'?!
Kind of irrelevant re: TM when neither
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
...I fell asleep when Maharishi gave out the
reinvent the wheel sutra. :-D
Doncha mean the Reinvent the wheel and then
trademark it sutra? :-)
On 04/13/2012 08:09 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
But, why would knowing a lot of mantras and lots of
hand gestures give anyone more 'knowledge' experience
than TM with it's single bija mantra?
Bhairitu:
Sorry but I've never found anyone who stuck to the
narrow teachings of MMY who had
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was ever a teacher and maybe never
even
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
What a ridiculous statement that is, Judy! I have taught TM and you
haven't and neither has Lawson. You are both dilettantes!
Yes, but robots are good at repeating what they heard!
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:25 PM, raunchydog wrote:
A close scrutiny of Patanjali's exposition of Yoga reveals that
the actual process of attaining the state of Yoga belongs not only
to dhyana, or meditation,...but also to all the other limbs of his
eightfold Yoga. Each limb presents the
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
What a ridiculous statement that is, Judy! I have taught TM and
you haven't and neither has Lawson. You are both dilettantes!
Yes, but robots are good at repeating what they
Sorry but I've never found anyone who stuck to the
narrow teachings of MMY who had much experience and
knowledge anyway.
So, why couldn't a TMer have much 'experience' with a
single bija mantra?
Bhairitu:
I've even explained why I believe MMY chose using those
beej mantras
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:08 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
What a ridiculous statement that is, Judy! I have taught TM and
you haven't and neither has Lawson. You are both dilettantes!
On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
In several posts over the past ten years I've been
asking these question and not getting any answers.
If your teacher never taught you that, then that's who you have to
blame. I'm sorry to hear he kept you waiting so long.
Go
On 04/13/2012 09:32 AM, raunchydog wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think Lawson was
On 04/13/2012 09:57 AM, Vaj wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
What a ridiculous statement that is, Judy! I have taught TM and you
haven't and neither has Lawson. You are both dilettantes!
Yes, but robots are good at repeating what they heard!
Yes, they are known as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
Lawson understands what TM is as well as, if not better
than, anyone on FFL--certainly better than Vaj and Bhairitu.
What a ridiculous statement that is, Judy! I have taught TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/13/2012 09:32 AM, raunchydog wrote:
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On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@ wrote:
On Apr
On 04/13/2012 12:16 PM, raunchydog wrote:
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On 04/13/2012 09:32 AM, raunchydog wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:36 AM, authfriend wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:25 PM, raunchydog wrote:
A close scrutiny of Patanjali's exposition of Yoga reveals that
the actual process of attaining the state of Yoga belongs not only
to dhyana, or meditation,...but also
In several posts over the past ten years I've been
asking these question and not getting any answers.
Vaj:
If your teacher never taught you that, then that's
who you have to blame. I'm sorry to hear he kept
you waiting so long.
Why did you keep me waiting for ten years? I already
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
No-one is addressing my point...
Solving math/daily-problems requires long period of thoughts in meditation
which is possible mostly in the beginning times of TM. It is also highly
individual.
With time there is less time
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM period?
It struck me just now that what is taught concerning this particular
situation epitomizes the
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM
any more, Bhairitu.
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing
with a path to learning more not a dead end. ;-)
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you have to know in order to be on the path to
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing
with a path to learning more not a dead end. ;-)
Lawson:
Heavy sigh.
Apparently 'Power Touch Yoga' is secret; that's why
only about six people, world-wide, practice it. Most
people have never heard of it - you have to go all
the way to
On 04/12/2012 06:44 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM
any more, Bhairitu.
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing
with a path to learning more not a dead end. ;-)
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you have to know in
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you know, now that you're on the path to learning?
Bhairitu:
A lot, but it's not quantitative but about knowledge
and experience. In comparison TM is censored.
But, why would knowing a lot of mantras and lots of
hand gestures give
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
No-one is addressing my point...
Solving math/daily-problems requires long period of thoughts in meditation
which is possible mostly in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM period?
It struck me just
On 04/12/2012 09:51 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you know, now that you're on the path to learning?
Bhairitu:
A lot, but it's not quantitative but about knowledge
and experience. In comparison TM is censored.
But, why would knowing a lot
On 04/12/2012 10:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@ wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/12/2012 10:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@ wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 04/12/2012 10:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@ wrote:
--- In
On 04/12/2012 05:31 PM, raunchydog wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
On 04/12/2012 10:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@ wrote:
--- In
On 04/12/2012 04:52 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 04/12/2012 10:49 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaisterno_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@ wrote:
Has anyone
My point is that its not an either/or, or more importantly, that ease is the
guideline rather than some specific goal.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
My point is that its not an either/or, or more importantly, that ease is the
guideline rather than some specific goal.
L.
Good point, Lawson. In TM ease is the process. There is no goal. In non-TM is
the goal ease?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
My point is that its not an either/or, or more importantly, that ease is
the guideline rather than some specific goal.
L.
Good point,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM period?
It struck me just now that what is taught concerning this particular
situation epitomizes the
And that is where we differ. Reading other things you have posted, I kinda am
not surprised. Many of the most devout TMers seem to not get TM. This is
kinda also not surprising, since the most anti-TMers on this forum appear to
have originally have been amongst the most devout.
Of course, one
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/11/2012 07:29 AM, sparaig wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM period?
It struck me just now that what is taught concerning
On 04/11/2012 09:05 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 04/11/2012 07:29 AM, sparaig wrote:
Has anyone ever found that they are solving a puzzle or math problem or
planning their day, etc., during their TM period?
It struck me just now
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM any more, Bhairitu.
Sigh.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/11/2012 09:05 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote:
On 04/11/2012 07:29 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Apr 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Until you learn mantra
shastra you will just be another blind man describing an elephant. But
then it's always amusing to hear what the blind men think they
see. :-D
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing with a path to
learning more not a dead end. ;-)
On 04/11/2012 10:02 AM, sparaig wrote:
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM any more, Bhairitu.
Sigh.
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On
No-one is addressing my point...
It struck me just now that what is taught concerning this particular
situation epitomizes the difference between TM and not-TM.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
I do that from the minute I wake up to the minute
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing with a path to
learning more not a dead end. ;-)
Heavy sigh.
L.
You are right. I cannot address this point as directed to the TM-proficient.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Solving math problems (or whatever) while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/11/2012 10:04 AM, Vaj wrote:
On Apr 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
Until you learn mantra
shastra you will just be another blind man describing an elephant. But
then it's always amusing to hear what
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM
any more, Bhairitu.
Bhairitu:
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing
with a path to learning more not a dead end. ;-)
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you have to know in order to be on the path to
On 04/11/2012 05:16 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
I am starting to see why you don't practice TM
any more, Bhairitu.
Bhairitu:
Yeah, because I wanted to practice the real thing
with a path to learning more not a dead end. ;-)
So, how many mantric phrases and hand gestures do
you have
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