[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread TurquoiseB
I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a Harvard grad) Michael Creighton had made on global warming. Putting aside what you or I may feel about the issue, the facts or the arguments of the piece weren't important to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a Harvard grad) Michael Creighton had made on global warming. Putting aside what you or I may feel about the issue,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread Vaj
On May 24, 2006, at 3:17 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a Harvard grad) Michael Creighton had made on global warming. Putting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2006, at 5:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2006, at 5:06 PM, sparaig wrote: Insomuch as humans show the same patterns of behavior in every society, the analogy with Christian Fundamentalism may be useful. However, since Hinduism is usually a far more flexable and accomidating religion or set-of-religions than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:03 PM, sparaig wrote: snip There's a guy who used to lecture at MUM/MIU who has a PhD in Indian Studies (I believe) who did his PhD work pointing out the cultural origins of the TM movement.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:06 PM, sparaig wrote: Insomuch as humans show the same patterns of behavior in every society, the analogy with Christian Fundamentalism may be useful. However, since Hinduism is usually a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:06 PM, sparaig wrote: Insomuch as humans show the same patterns of behavior in every society, the analogy with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:03 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:06 PM, sparaig wrote: Insomuch as humans show the same patterns of behavior in every society, the analogy with Christian Fundamentalism may be useful. However, since Hinduism is usually a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 5:03 PM, sparaig wrote: snip There's a guy who used to lecture at MUM/MIU who has a PhD in Indian Studies (I believe)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip And again, what Nanda calls Vedic Creationism does not appear to be what MMY teaches in that it doesn't propose to replace Darwinian evolution with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and someone raised in that culture--I'd certainly say she does. esp. given her masterful overview of the development of this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and someone raised in that culture--I'd certainly say she

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and someone raised in that culture--I'd certainly say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: snip Not to mention killing the messenger. And that killing of the messenger in this specific context is an artifact of clinging to the idea that the vedas and science go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
OK, Vaj, I've now read both parts of the two-parter you posted here by Nanda, as well as the additional essay you just put up. Your subject heading is misleading in several different ways. First, Vedic Creation Science is your term, not Nanda's. You created it with the intention of conveying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a Harvard grad) Michael Creighton had made on global warming. Putting aside what you or I may feel about the issue, the facts or the arguments of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread Vaj
On May 23, 2006, at 12:53 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Vaj, I've now read both parts of the two-parter you posted here by Nanda, as well as the additional essay you just put up. Your subject heading is misleading in several different ways. First, Vedic Creation Science is your term, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a Harvard grad) Michael Creighton had made on global warming. Putting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 12:53 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Vaj, I've now read both parts of the two-parter you posted here by Nanda, as well as the additional essay you just put up. Your subject heading is misleading in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science. She's a scientist and someone raised in that culture--I'd certainly say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: snip Not to mention killing the messenger. And that killing of the messenger in this specific

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: snip Not to mention killing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: snip I once posted a commentary that author and scientist (he's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she doesn't seem to have the requisite credentials to trash Vedic science.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 23, 2006, at 7:40 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: snip Not to mention killing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 2:47 PM, authfriend wrote: The point is that she

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip There's a guy who used to lecture at MUM/MIU who has a PhD in Indian Studies (I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip There's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meera Nanda debunks Vedic Creation Science. It's interesting to read the user reviews on Amazon of Nanda's major book, Prophets Looking Backward, which deals with the same topic as this essay. Of eleven reviews, five give it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Meera Nanda debunks Vedic Creation Science. It's interesting to read the user reviews on Amazon of Nanda's major book, Prophets Looking Backward,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2006, at 9:47 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meera Nanda debunks Vedic Creation Science. It's interesting to read the user reviews on Amazon of Nanda's major book, Prophets Looking Backward, which deals with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 9:47 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Meera Nanda debunks Vedic Creation Science. It's interesting to read the user reviews on Amazon of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread Vaj
On May 22, 2006, at 1:46 PM, authfriend wrote: Yeah I saw that. Amazon's rating system is notoriously manipulated to people who want to trash books, which in some cases they've not even read. Manipulated how, and by whom? Seems unlikely that Amazon itself would do this, given that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Creation Science debunked

2006-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 22, 2006, at 1:46 PM, authfriend wrote: Yeah I saw that. Amazon's rating system is notoriously manipulated to people who want to trash books, which in some cases they've not even read. Manipulated