[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
Judy wrote: Just in general, if he had been more straightforward and forthcoming about his past associations from the get-go, it would have been much more difficult for folks to use them against him. So the question is, whether Khalidi acted as a PLO spokesman while the PLO was widely

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
They were not only wrong, they light babies on fire by the thousands on their illegal, and unsanctioned by the American people, air raids. Judy wrote: I agree, but I don't think it excuses Obama's collaboration with Ayers. Apparently what we have here are two very mixed up

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread boo_lives
Not that the mentally deranged or LIVs care, but here is a good summary of the khalid nonsense by the washington post: It turns out that McCain is treading on tricky ground when he cites the Khalidi case as an example of Obama consorting with terrorist sympathizers. The Obama campaign was quick

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that the mentally deranged or LIVs care, but here is a good summary of the khalid nonsense by the washington post: It turns out that McCain is treading on tricky ground when he cites the Khalidi case as an example

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turns out that McCain is treading on tricky ground when he cites the Khalidi case as an example of Obama consorting with terrorist sympathizers. The Obama campaign was quick to point out that an organization

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's true that McCain distributed several grants, including one worth about half a million dollars, to the Center for Palestine Research and Studies, or CPRS, a West Bank organization associated with Khalidi. What the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
I usually learn something from an attack on Obama's ideas. But I'm hitting a dead end on this attack. What is the big picture here? Republicans are using these associations to create fear of Obama, but when McCain is asked outright if he believes Obama hates America he backs down. So the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
it is just the dying gasp of opposition against the next President of the USA, Barack Hussein Obama. he is obviously no more a terrorist than those who proclaim him to be. people always resist change, and this time the change is a substantial one; someone on the side of the masses instead of

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: It turns out that McCain is treading on tricky ground when he cites the Khalidi case as an example of Obama consorting with terrorist

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But what is your spin Raunchy? I get the point that Obama downplayed his associations with a guy with a past. Seeing the constant focus on this issue I can kind of understand why. But his association

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip But what is your spin Raunchy? I get the point that Obama downplayed his associations with a guy with a past. Seeing the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip But what is your spin Raunchy? I get the point

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
You laid out the different positions pretty fairly. Given that the president of the United States has to work with the world's despots and dictators to advance the agenda of the US, I think that Obama's ability to work on a specific project with a guy with a past like Ayers is an asset. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i find it odd that those who would criticize our next President for the company he may keep hold him to an impossible standard, and one that is impossible for any public figure to uphold. the way these

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
Me, I want as leader of my country someone who is unafraid to sit down at a table with ANYONE, and talk things over with them. I want that leader to actually *listen* as the other person speaks, and try to figure out where he's coming from. And I want that leader to weigh what the other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread Richard Williams
Turq wrote: I want as leader of my country someone who is unafraid to sit down at a table with ANYONE, and talk things over with them. Yeah, that's the ticket - sit down with Osama bin Laden and 'talk things over'. Then you would be guilty by association! You're not even making any sense,

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip To suggest that it is bad to talk to someone who thinks differently than you do is to suggest that it is bad to think. Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony. This is the fellow who boasts repeatedly of not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread Richard Williams
Me, I want as leader of my country someone who is unafraid to sit down at a table with ANYONE, and talk things over with them. I want that leader to actually *listen* as the other person speaks, and try to figure out where he's coming from. And I want that leader to weigh what the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You laid out the different positions pretty fairly. Given that the president of the United States has to work with the world's despots and dictators to advance the agenda of the US, I think that Obama's ability

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
snip snip I don't have a problem with his church either. I have a problem with his judgment in not realizing how it would be used against him if he ran for president; and I have a problem with the way he dealt with it when it became a public controversy. So he was quite politically

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- But I do have an opinion about the people Ayers was fighting against who were acting against our best interest in South East Asia. They were not only wrong, they light babies on fire by the thousands on

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't have a problem with his church either. I have a problem with his judgment in not realizing how it would be used against him if he ran for president; and I have a problem with the way he dealt

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Has nothing to do with editorial perfection. I'm saying you read into my comments something that wasn't there and missed what was there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Has nothing to do with editorial perfection. I'm saying you

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The notion that Obama's association with Ayers means he's somehow in sympathy with terrorism is, of course, totally absurd, designed to appeal to nonthinkers. But there are also entirely legitimate objections.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You laid out the different positions pretty fairly. Given that the president of the United States has to work with the world's

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: snip i find it odd that those who would criticize our next

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Just in general, if he had been more straightforward and

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: snip i find it odd that those who would criticize our next President for

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip That's debatable, Curtis, and it really isn't parallel to a president's dealings with bad foreign leaders. Remember that Ayers and Dohrn held a

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Rashid Khalidid and Sirhan Sirhan have in common?

2008-11-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: snip