[FairfieldLife] Yahoo - next Nokia??
[FairfieldLife] Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
When searching for a name to call the followers stupid enough to pay him a million bucks for the privilege, and looking for one that captured the combination of ethics and humility they represented, he certainly couldn't have done any better than Raja or Maharaja. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/09/rolls-royce-tiger-car/ http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/09/rolls-royce-tiger-car/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
(-: From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Like Sera said, maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Diary of a Drug Fiend was one I found very insightful. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: Re As to Crowley...eee.: authfriend have you ever actually read any of Crowley's books? Don't believe the bollocks the normals say about him. I haven't read any of his books, actually. I have, however, copyedited several books about various occult topics that quoted him extensively, and the personality that came across always just set my teeth on edge. I have no idea if the authors of these books were normals, but they weren't denouncing him or anything. I'm also sort of allergic to that whole area of modern occultism. Sorry if I've impugned a hero of yours! Tell you what. I don't want to spend any $$ on his books without previewing them, but if you'll give me a few titles you like and they're available for Kindle, I'll download samples and have a look at those. If any of them appeal, I'll consider buying and reading one. Deal? Here is your man. I think I am having a hard time taking him seriously. Does this make me shallow to judge him on his garb? Or the fact that he would wear this in all seriousness? Sorry, image won't copy, you'll have to check him out in the picture with headdress a la King Tut. http://http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aleister_Crowley,_Golden_Dawn.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off
Buck, just being practical for a moment: how the heck would that work? After TM everybody would have to leave the hall and then just the sidhas allowed back in for TMSP and YF?! Anyway, the women's side of the town flying hall is usually packed in the evenings. I think on campus the meditators have their own program place. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off Somebody should get through to and ask Nader Raam, Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraamif we could change the program to allow meditators to also join in the group meditation. Hey, numbers and proximity count in Meissner. The science even says this about meditators meditating in groups. Let us make some allowance for at least TM meditators to join in. Heck there is nothing special about the TMSP anymore. For decades Yogic Flying has been shown off in publicity stunts and it is all over the internet. In proximity and in numbers for the Meissner Effect, [ME] let meditators join in the meditation too. It is time to become more inclusive and take the larger movement back to meditation. It is time to change the program and let meditators in to the big group. 'Time to bring up the reserves'. Time to put in the meditators. Jai Brahmananda Saraswati, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Forwarded from: Ideal Community Group development@...Subject: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off Date: September 27, 2013 11:45:55 AM CDT To: Dick, dickmays@... New Downtown Flying Hall Hi Dick, The New Downtown Flying Hall has turned out so much better than we had hoped. Here's some feedback from people who tried it out: The new Orpheum flying hall really is a great boon for the community. I find it to be very simple and silently comfortable there. You can slip in and slip out with great ease, and no complications. I urge more people to check it out and give it a try. I think you will be very happy. JS The Orpheum flying hall has proven to be a real asset for those of us who live in town. Very comfy, and s convenient. Not that the Dome is a long trip, but it's so simple to drive 2 minutes and then park 50 feet from the door. SC Thanks again for providing the Universe with this Heavenly domain. It's gotten me back meditating with the group and also doing the full complement, which is having beneficial effects for me. CB It's silent, comfortable, clean, and really convenient on many days for my schedule. FR Parking is easy, the feeling is relaxed and the silence is deep. Come to the small door on the north side of the Orpheum Cinema (Used to be the Co-ed Cinema). If you haven't been there yet check out the photos below: The Ideal Community Group. Click photos for larger view.
[FairfieldLife] Krokodil available also in the USA now!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Krokodil available also in the USA now!
Sounds like modern alchemy to me! From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:49 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Krokodil available also in the USA now! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Ketu and Rahu are currently transiting the Aries/Libra axis. Aries is the sign of the Self and Libra of the Other. Can mean a lot of upheaval and karmic burn off in the relationship partnership area of life. Helps me understand this widespread phenomenon you mention, Buck. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yep, buried in personal trivia and vitriol. Turns out a lot of publishing web sites are closing their comments sections because the persistence of coarse incivility of comments erodes the credibility of the page and drives readership away. Why should Rick keep this place open for a few people to flood it that way? It is time to shut it down or go back to moderating it in some way. It used to be with post limits that half of the week was dominated by ad hominem until they would post out and the second half could have content around FFL. Now it is constant flow of incivility. This is no salon now it is mostly a cesspool without limits. Let's moderate it or shut it down. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
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feste, you're one of the people I was thinking of and missing. Hope you're well and happy. I'm loving the cooler weather today. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Neo has kind of turned FFL into a forum for people who can spend a lot of time on it and keep track of who said what. I think it's a big loss, losing the people who used to contribute less frequently but adding just the spice that was needed, just the unique perspective that kept FFL lively and more universal. As they say in Sho-gun: karma, neh? From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
emptybill, thank you for this. I've had some experiences of that level and somehow it is so full in itself, that all other desires fall away without any bother. But I'm glad Maharishi said that we'd fulfill our desires. That tricked my big fat ego and rajasic self into letting me get onto a spiritual path in the first place. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Rtam is cosmic order. It is not a means to fulfill all your desires. If you cognize and adhere to Rtam you will not become the prince/princess of creation and thus All shall serve you in awe. Nor will you become a human deva among cosmic devas. That possiblity is considered by yogins to be a trap and it is addressed by Patanjali, as translated by Georg Feuerstein: Upon the invitation of high-placed [beings], [he should give himself] no cause for attachment or pride, because of [the danger of] renewed and undesired inclination [for lower levels of existence]. (3.51) Rather Patanjali said: In this [state of utmost lucidity], insight is truth-bearing (ritam-bhara). (1.48) The scope [of this truth-bearing insight] is distinct from the insight [gained from] tradition and inference, [because of its] particular purposiveness. (1.49) Comments: The idea expressed in this aphorism seems to be that the truth-bearing insight (prajnâ) reached at the highest level of conscious ecstasy (samprajnâta-samâdhi) is quite different from ordinary knowledge, insofar as it provides the impetus for the transcendence of all knowledge in the state of the supraconscious ecstasy (asamprajnâta-samâdhi), which alone leads to liberation, or Self-realization. The activator (samskâra) springing from that [truth-bearing insight] obstructs the other activators [residing in the depths of consciousness]. (1.50) Upon the restriction of even this [activator, there ensues], owing to the restriction of all [contents of consciousness], the ecstasy without seed. (1.51) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: emptybill, rhythm suggests vibration to me. I can see how a universal vibration would impose order. Also, I don't think sanyama in TMSP is about contemplation. I think it's a more subtle practice than that. From: emptybill@... emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Rtam (Ritam) is cognate with the English word rhythm and contains the meaning of universal order. Since mrta means death - a-mrta (amrita) means deathless. You can repeat it all you want, contemplate it in sanyama or whatever and you will not become immortal. These words are not forms of each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! From: Richard J. Williams punditster@... To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptybill@... wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
The unintended consequences of shutting down comments on articles is that the hostility will no longer be online but in the streets. It's a sign of the time. People feel threatened by increasing authoritarian behavior on the part of governments and corporations. So maybe it's good they take to the streets and the corporate towers. ;-) On 09/27/2013 09:17 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.* *Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website.* *Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership.* *Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership.* *-Buck*
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the only way I have been able to check these posts is because I have them sent to my yahoo e-mail account - trying to use the FFL group page itself is ridiculous. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
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[FairfieldLife] Toxic Chemicals on Mars ...
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So you will be made to sit through a 30 second ad before you will be able to post a reply or even a read a topic. I just use the email. On 09/28/2013 09:18 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I also find the whole Neo thing pretty dysfunctional, and a great reason why shareholder corporations should not offer public utility-like services. Initially, needing to grow their market, Yahoo, or anyone else, offers a service like Yahoo forums. At some point the company is going to need to capitalize on its free offering, and modify it away from a utility service, and more towards, in this case, an advertising platform. It is a conflict of interests, and the public will always lose out, in favor of shareholder value. Of course, now we have government unions (insanity), so even the costs in the public sector are driven up by collective bargaining, raising taxes and the cost of services. It does tend to drive a person towards greater and greater self-sufficiency.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neo has kind of turned FFL into a forum for people who can spend a lot of time on it and keep track of who said what. I think it's a big loss, losing the people who used to contribute less frequently but adding just the spice that was needed, just the unique perspective that kept FFL lively and more universal. As they say in Sho-gun: karma, neh? *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. *From:* dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC *Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.* *Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website.* *Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership.* *Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership.* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. --
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
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[FairfieldLife] Japan#39;s karma?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
[FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
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John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: When searching for a name to call the followers stupid enough to pay him a million bucks for the privilege, and looking for one that captured the combination of ethics and humility they represented, he certainly couldn't have done any better than Raja or Maharaja. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/09/rolls-royce-tiger-car/
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
emptybill, when I think of a contemplative, I think of someone absorbed in adoration of God. I don't think of someone thinking and ruminating about God. Plus I think sanyama includes not only darshana but also dhyana and finally samadhi. But I would bet that all traditions of any depth have similar practices. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Also, the TMO description of contemplation is based upon the term's mis-identification as thinking and rumination which was current in the 19th-20th century ... i.e. MMY's British era education. None of that is concordant with the classical description of theoria as used by Neo-Platonists nor with the Christian schema following after Evagrius. Several scholars have also demonstrated the similarities between the Greek idea of theoria and the Indian idea of darśana (darshan), including Ian Rutherford,[12] Binod Kumar Agarwala, Gregory Grieve, and Michael A. Di Giovane. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: emptybill, rhythm suggests vibration to me. I can see how a universal vibration would impose order. Also, I don't think sanyama in TMSP is about contemplation. I think it's a more subtle practice than that. From: emptybill@... emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Rtam (Ritam) is cognate with the English word rhythm and contains the meaning of universal order. Since mrta means death - a-mrta (amrita) means deathless. You can repeat it all you want, contemplate it in sanyama or whatever and you will not become immortal. These words are not forms of each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! From: Richard J. Williams punditster@... To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptybill@... wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: When searching for a name to call the followers stupid enough to pay him a million bucks for the privilege, and looking for one
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What percentage is the viewership of the group who are subscribed versus subscribed? It's an open group that anyone can view without subscribing. I wouldn't be surprised that the views by non-subscribers could be several times more than the actual posters. On 09/28/2013 11:23 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: I told Rick that I think FFL has outlived its usefulness. Rick's perspective is that FFL is still very popular and that others seem to enjoy it. So, FFL will remain as it is, and I will stick around to handle subscriptions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: **
[FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person
Don't worry about the intellectualizing over the concept. You know how it works once you experience it. It's a very essential element of tantra. On 09/28/2013 01:37 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Wake up and try to get it right (rtam). The term is achintya bheda-abheda and means unthinkable difference and non-difference. It is the name that the follower of Chaitanya devised to explain what he meant. Your understanding of Shankara's Kevala-Advaita is only a tribute to the murmurs echoing in the prairie-dog holes. So, to make it easier for you, here is the traditional synopsis: brahman is reality, the universe an appearance the soul is brahman indeed, not other Brahman is satyam, jñanam, anantam ... reality, knowingness, endlessness. Brahman, seen by an individual cognizer, is Ishvara, the purshottama or supreme purusha. Brahman realized as real, limitless, awareness is the one who is realizing because we ain't nothin' but awareness. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Richard, it's wonderful. In all versions! (-: *From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... *To:* Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person On 9/25/2013 12:59 PM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Reformatted with Neo for easier reading: This formatting is crap. Oh the hell with it! LoL! So, since Krishna is the Absolute, he is in fact 'indescribably different', (Acyenta Bheda Bheda). At first this seems to be non-sensical, but if you think about it, it makes more sense, and if you remember what MMY said in CBG 1-6. According to MMY, Lord Krishna is the 'Transcendental Person', mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. That means that He is beyond, or transcendental to, phenomenon - the relative world of change. Many of the Vedantists who composed the Vedic literature were dualists or qualified-dualists, and others were mixed dualists and some were qualified-dualists. While all the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists, not all of them ascribed to the Advaita philosophy, non-dualism. In fact, there is good reason to doubt the Advaita of the Adi Shankaracharya. Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the illusion theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi which resembles Buddhist notions. According to Sri Aurobindo, this Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion. Isha Upanishad: The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer, for the law of the Truth, for sight. - Isha v 2 The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or Brahman. Ishvara is the supreme controller. Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality. Work cited: 'Isha Upanishad' Translation by Sri Aurobindo Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust Pondicherry, India 1914 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So, since Krishna is the Absolute, he is in fact 'indescribably different', (Acyenta Bheda Bheda). At first this seems to be non-sensical, but if you think about it, it makes more sense, and if you remember what MMY said in CBG 1-6. According to MMY, Lord Krishna is the 'Transcendental Person', mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. That means that He is beyond, or transcendental to, phenomenon - the relative world of change. Many of the Vedantists who composed the Vedic literature were dualists or qualified-dualists, and others were mixed dualists and some were qualified-dualists. While all the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists, not all of them ascribed to the Advaita philosophy, non-dualism. In fact, there is good reason to doubt the Advaita of the Adi Shankaracharya. Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the illusion theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi. According to Sri Aurobindo, this Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion. Isha Upanishad: The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer, for the law of the Truth, for sight. - Isha v 2 The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or Brahman. Ishvara is the supreme controller. Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows nescience side-by-side
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
Good catch, thanks Judy. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Share wrote: emptybill, when I think of a contemplative, I think of someone absorbed in adoration of God. I don't think of someone thinking and ruminating about God. Plus I think sanyama includes not only darshana Dharana, actually, not darshana. Two different things. but also dhyana and finally samadhi. But I would bet that all traditions of any depth have similar practices. From: emptybill@... emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Also, the TMO description of contemplation is based upon the term's mis-identification as thinking and rumination which was current in the 19th-20th century ... i.e. MMY's British era education. None of that is concordant with the classical description of theoria as used by Neo-Platonists nor with the Christian schema following after Evagrius. Several scholars have also demonstrated the similarities between the Greek idea of theoria and the Indian idea of darśana (darshan), including Ian Rutherford,[12] Binod Kumar Agarwala, Gregory Grieve, and Michael A. Di Giovane.
[FairfieldLife] MSLSD goes nuts again for the sake of Barak Hussein Osama
[FairfieldLife] TM Austalia
A nice read from the past showing how underhanded M and his minions have been in business dealings, and TM was always a business you know. http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/religionreport/transcendental-meditation-and-the-nsw-labor-council/3510138#transcript
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
[FairfieldLife] M and his Boys
Yeah, baby - that sumbitch was enlightened wasn't he? Maharishi University of Management celebrates the dawn of a New World Order of Peace, as demonstrated by the invincibility of President Fidel Castro of Cuba, the freedom of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, the Divine Rulership of President Abdurrahman Wahid of Indonesia, and the casting off of corrupt democracy by President Robert Guei of the Ivory Coast. http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/maharishi-university-of-management-holland-celebrates-the-dawn-of-a-new-world-order-of-peacethe-rise-of-perfection-in-world-politics-and-economy-156803205.html
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From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. Do you think you could be accused of not seeing the forest for the trees? I predict some day you may be a case study for such an affliction. (what was it I once preached?) - broad comprehension with the ability to focus sharply Hey, have you had your meditation check recently? But if Seraphita thinks he's worth reading, as I said, I'm willing to give him at least a preliminary shot by checking out a Kindle sample. But there's too much still to be read in the world to spend time on him if he doesn't grab me right away. Diary of a Drug Fiend was one I found very insightful. Seraphita, would you recommend this one? I think it's available for Kindle. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: Re As to Crowley...eee.: authfriend have you ever actually read any of Crowley's books? Don't believe the bollocks the normals say about him. I haven't read any of his books, actually. I have, however, copyedited several books about various occult topics that quoted him extensively, and the personality that came across always just set my teeth on edge. I have no idea if the authors of these books were normals, but they weren't denouncing him or anything. I'm also sort of allergic to that whole area of modern occultism. Sorry if I've impugned a hero of yours! Tell you what. I don't want to spend any $$ on his books without previewing them, but if you'll give me a few titles you like and they're available for Kindle, I'll download samples and have a look at those. If any of them appeal, I'll consider buying and reading one. Deal? Here is your man. I think I am having a hard time taking him seriously. Does this make me shallow to judge him on his garb? Or the fact that he would wear this in all seriousness? Sorry, image won't copy, you'll have to check him out in the picture with headdress a la King Tut. http://http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aleister_Crowley,_Golden_Dawn.jpg
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Well Ann, I guess you can dismiss the value of someone by their appearance, or you can scratch beneath the surface and see if there might be something more there. You know, it's the old adage about appearances being misleading. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:39 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Like Sera said, maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Diary of a Drug Fiend was one I found very insightful. My post was pretty much a joke but let's take this further and just say if I walked into a seminar hall and found a speaker dressed like this I might have to turn around and and leave but only after letting out a rather hearty guffaw. (Of course, I might also assume he merely wandered out of bed having forgotten to change out of his pajamas.) http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeV/Unleashing_the_Beast.htm From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: Re As to Crowley...eee.: authfriend have you ever actually read any of Crowley's books? Don't believe the bollocks the normals say about him. I haven't read any of his books, actually. I have, however, copyedited several books about various occult topics that quoted him extensively, and the personality that came across always just set my teeth on edge. I have no idea if the authors of these books were normals, but they weren't denouncing him or anything. I'm also sort of allergic to that whole area of modern occultism. Sorry if I've impugned a hero of yours! Tell you what. I don't want to spend any $$ on his books without previewing them, but if you'll give me a few titles you like and they're available for Kindle, I'll download samples and have a look at those. If any of them appeal, I'll consider buying and reading one. Deal? Here is your man. I think I am having a hard time taking him seriously. Does this make me shallow to judge him on his garb? Or the fact that he would wear this in all seriousness? Sorry, image won't copy, you'll have to check him out in the picture with headdress a la King Tut. http://http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aleister_Crowley,_Golden_Dawn.jpg
Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
I have been following the feedback on the Yahoo Groups comment site. Yahoo gives lip service to this notion of we value your input. It is evident that it is only lip service. There is one lady in particular, Owl who is leading the charge to get Yahoo to return to the familiar format. It doesn't seem to be working out. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:17 AM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC the only way I have been able to check these posts is because I have them sent to my yahoo e-mail account - trying to use the FFL group page itself is ridiculous. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
A very good analogy, IMO. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
In a nutshell, how did he do that? Or is there a link to the post where Buck goes into that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
Steve, Buck reported that Dr. Nader suggested that the situation with Maharishi's will be taken to the Shankaracharya. And he upheld Maharishi's will as naming Dr. Nader as his heir. Sorry, the Neo archives are very difficult to work with. It was some time ago. But if I can find it I'll pass along. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! In a nutshell, how did he do that? Or is there a link to the post where Buck goes into that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with all three, then Satguru. Shaktipat, “refers into the conferring of spiritual energy upon one person by another. Shaktipat can be transmitted with a sacred word or mantra, or by a look, thought or touch -” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually
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Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: From:authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. You know, I've been reading voraciously for most of my life, and there's still gobs and gobs of stuff I have yet to get to. How do I choose? I don't have that much time left. Somebody who looks like a pretentious asshole is less likely to be worth my while. Maybe I'm wrong in any given case, but I have to have some way of beginning to narrow down my choices. You might want to give me a break, though, because I've found your enthusiasm for Crowley convincing enough to be willing to look further than that photo (for that matter, your apologia for the photo was enough to make me think twice about it) and the extensive quotes I told you I'd read. I even asked you for a recommendation of one of Crowley's books. I can't say I'm wildly excited at the prospect, but I'm willing togive it a shot. Seems like that counts for nothing with you. Do you think you could be accused of not seeing the forest for the trees? Not legitimately, no. I make my own decisions about which is more important to speak to in any particular case. Sometimes people get offended if they disagree with one of those decisions when one or the other is a pet concern of theirs and I've addressed the opposite. But in most cases I've looked at both before deciding which one to deal with. I've found that frequently if the trees are, shall we say, misidentified, that translates into an off-kilter forest; other times, the trees really don't matter much. It's a judgment call, and YMMV in any given instance. That's OK; we don't all have to have the same priorities. I predict some day you may be a case study for such an affliction. I haven't been insulting you, Seraphita (at least not intentionally). What's the story here? Why the nastiness? (what was it I once preached?) - broad comprehension with the ability to focus sharply Hey, have you had your meditation check recently? But if Seraphita thinks he's worth reading, as I said, I'm willing to give him at least a preliminary shot by checking out a Kindle sample. But there's too much still to be read in the world to spend time on him if he doesn't grab me right away. Diary of a Drug Fiend was one I found very insightful. Seraphita, would you recommend this one? I think it's available for Kindle. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: Re As to Crowley...eee.: authfriend have you ever
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
No, that is plenty good. But, when money and assets are involved, I'd be inclined to think the Shank's input would be sort of useless. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Steve, Buck reported that Dr. Nader suggested that the situation with Maharishi's will be taken to the Shankaracharya. And he upheld Maharishi's will as naming Dr. Nader as his heir. Sorry, the Neo archives are very difficult to work with. It was some time ago. But if I can find it I'll pass along. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! In a nutshell, how did he do that? Or is there a link to the post where Buck goes into that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having an elemental shaktipat to help people spiritually with. If with most the three things then you're ascending to real Guru status. If you're really good with
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
I guess it would depend on how much separation of govt and religion there is in India. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! No, that is plenty good. But, when money and assets are involved, I'd be inclined to think the Shank's input would be sort of useless. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Steve, Buck reported that Dr. Nader suggested that the situation with Maharishi's will be taken to the Shankaracharya. And he upheld Maharishi's will as naming Dr. Nader as his heir. Sorry, the Neo archives are very difficult to work with. It was some time ago. But if I can find it I'll pass along. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! In a nutshell, how did he do that? Or is there a link to the post where Buck goes into that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru behind, but Rajas. There is some mystique of folklore around Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] having been kept by Maharishi incubating spiritually in the basement at Vlodrop, and Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam [MAR] also in Being worth his weight in gold. Is he guru material? Anybody here have a feeling that he is? Just wondering. -Buck In the East to be a real guru it seems you need to be three things: scholarly with chops in traditional texts, knowledgeable about and with spiritual techniques to teach, and then having
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Steve, I think even the behavioral addictions like gambling have a chemical component. Meaning that the behavior releases and or stimulates certain chemicals in the brain that produce a good feeling. But I would think that the direct chemical addictions like cocaine might be beyond whether or not one is told the supply is unlimited. I often tell my Mom that it's not that she doesn't have will power. It's that a little sugar in the morning will create a craving that will continue all day long. Does this make sense? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: From:authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. You know, I've been reading voraciously for most of my life, and there's still gobs and gobs of stuff I have yet to get to. How do I choose? I don't have that much time left. Somebody who looks like a pretentious asshole is less likely to be worth my while. Maybe I'm wrong in any given case, but I have to have some way of beginning to narrow down my choices. You might want to give me a break, though, because I've found your enthusiasm for Crowley convincing enough to be willing to look further than that photo (for that matter, your apologia for the photo was enough to make me think twice about it) and the extensive quotes I told you I'd read. I even asked you for a recommendation of one of Crowley's books. I can't say I'm wildly excited at the prospect, but I'm willing togive it a shot. Seems like that counts for nothing with you. Do you think you could be accused of not seeing the forest for the trees? Not legitimately, no. I make my own decisions about which is more important to speak to in any particular case. Sometimes people get offended if they disagree with one of those decisions when one or the other is a pet concern of theirs and I've addressed the opposite. But in most cases I've looked at both before deciding which one to deal with. I've found that frequently if the trees are, shall we say, misidentified, that translates into an off-kilter forest; other times, the trees really don't matter much. It's a judgment call, and YMMV in any given instance. That's OK; we don't all have to have the same priorities. I predict some day you may be a case study for such an affliction. I haven't been insulting you, Seraphita (at least not intentionally). What's the story here? Why the nastiness? (what was it I once preached?) - broad comprehension with the ability to focus sharply Hey, have you had your meditation check recently? But if
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
It appears to me that corruption is more rampant in India than just about any other emerging country. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! I guess it would depend on how much separation of govt and religion there is in India. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! No, that is plenty good. But, when money and assets are involved, I'd be inclined to think the Shank's input would be sort of useless. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Steve, Buck reported that Dr. Nader suggested that the situation with Maharishi's will be taken to the Shankaracharya. And he upheld Maharishi's will as naming Dr. Nader as his heir. Sorry, the Neo archives are very difficult to work with. It was some time ago. But if I can find it I'll pass along. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! In a nutshell, how did he do that? Or is there a link to the post where Buck goes into that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! John, IMO, if anyone can unite the different factions of the TMO, Dr. Nader is that person. He reminds me of that Sanskrit saying: in the vicinity of yoga, hostile tendencies dissipate. And Buck has told us how he resolved the challenge about Maharishi's will. From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! Share, Thanks for the additional information. King Tony has more credentials than I thought. So, it would appear that MMY chose him for his qualifications and accomplishments. But I would also guess that MMY saw something in his jyotish chart that would give him the support of Nature in administering the TMO. If King Tony has enemies within the organization, who are they and how successful are they in their intrigues? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, Dr. Nader received his MD from American Univ in Beirut where he also studied internal medicine and psychiatry. His PhD from MIT is in Brain and Cognitive Science. He did post doc work in Neurology at Mass Gen Hospital, Harvard Medical School. With all this, he is a very humble person and radiates a full heart. From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right! D Hamilton, I have not met King Tony in person. Based on the videos I've seen of him, he appears to be a devoted follower of MMY. Since he's a Phd, I would guess that he's a very smart guy. Also, it appears that he's generally a nice guy. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Junior, You been with the guy? Does his energy field have some shakti with it? Hard to tell because he is evidently not available. You been with him? Or, is he just a Raja? Just wondering. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That is fine but clearly some changes are in store for the program and may be some addendum to the practice. Does that go beyond an administrator and take a guru to do with the TM teaching in time? -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: D Hamilton, IMO, Maharishi was saying that Guru Dev is the teacher of the TM Movement. And, King Tony has been designated as the ruler of the TM Movement. His main duty is to spread the teachings based on the wisdom from Guru Dev and the vedic interpretations that MMY has provided for the world. IOW, King Tony does not have to be a guru. He is the administrator of the TM Movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It is an interesting thing that Maharishi in succession planning left no guru
Re: [FairfieldLife] MSLSD goes nuts again for the sake of Barak Hussein Osama
LOL! They'll try anything to bolster this guy. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MSLSD goes nuts again for the sake of Barak Hussein Osama Win! Breakthough!': NBC News/Politico Spread False Iran Propaganda The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald caught Brian Williams in an incredible rhetorical sleight-of-hand. In a likely effort to make it look as though Obama has prompted some kind of diplomatic breakthrough with the terrorist state of Iran, the Nightly News anchor actually opened his program Friday by telling his audience that Iran is suddenly claiming they don't want nuclear weapons! That would be great, if only it were anything close to the truth:
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan#39;s karma?
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Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
I'd say it depends on what one's dharma is. Here's a little poem: if you're in your dharma, you'll get the good karma! From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* Dream on. So by doing TM, etc. (whatever the etc. means) you are gaining good karma? And you believe this exactly why? I really, really believe that spending 20 minutes or half an hour or an hour soothing and rescuing abused and homeless animals (or tending to those who are lonely or afraid in some precarious situation in their lives) far outweighs sitting with your eyes closed repeating a meaningless sound. Sorry, but it has yet to be proven to my satisfaction that practicing TM is doing one damn thing for the planet. Thus, no good karmic payload in any imaginary bank. From: cardemaister@... cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
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[FairfieldLife] Think you are too little? N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens
Re: [FairfieldLife] Think you are too little? N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens
emptybill, the whole enterprise seems screwy to me. How could so much info be in any way useful? Who's going to analyze all that data? From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Think you are too little? N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens By JAMES RISEN and LAURA POITRAS, New York Times,Published September 28, 2013 WASHINGTON — Since 2010, the National Security Agency has been exploiting its huge collections of data to create sophisticated graphs of some Americans’ social connections that can identify their associates, their locations at certain times, their traveling companions and other personal information, according to newly disclosed documents and interviews with officials. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/us/nsa-examines-social-networks-of-us-citizens.html?pagewanted=1_r=2ref=us
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that does sound right. and as I recall, when the discussion of this book came up before, many years ago, I was more confident that the modality put forth in the book could be effective. and as I recall, I was pretty well blasted for that. I think that a substance addiction such as that is much more difficult to kick. and I think, as you say, that a gambling addiction is also nothing to trifle with. winning, then losing, then wanting to make it back. quite a cycle. metaphysical literature always has some interesting things to say about some of the behind scenes forces of addiction. I am thinking now, primarily of what I've read in Thinking and Destiny by Harold Percival. P.S. We just saw the movie Prisoners I recommend it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, I think even the behavioral addictions like gambling have a chemical component. Meaning that the behavior releases and or stimulates certain chemicals in the brain that produce a good feeling. But I would think that the direct chemical addictions like cocaine might be beyond whether or not one is told the supply is unlimited. I often tell my Mom that it's not that she doesn't have will power. It's that a little sugar in the morning will create a craving that will continue all day long. Does this make sense? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: From:authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. You know, I've been reading voraciously for most of my life, and there's still gobs and gobs of stuff I have yet to get to. How do I choose? I don't have that much time left. Somebody who looks like a pretentious asshole is less likely to be worth my while. Maybe I'm wrong in any given case, but I have to have some way of beginning to narrow down my choices. You might want to give me a break, though, because I've found your enthusiasm for Crowley convincing enough to be willing to look further than that photo (for that matter, your apologia for the photo was enough to make me think twice about it) and the extensive quotes I told you I'd read. I even asked you for a recommendation of one of Crowley's books. I can't say I'm wildly excited at the prospect, but I'm willing togive it a shot. Seems like that counts for nothing
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
I agree, that the accumulation of good karma can have no connection to the practice of TM. Or it can. Just as there are many ways to accumulate money. (or waste money for that matter) From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* Dream on. So by doing TM, etc. (whatever the etc. means) you are gaining good karma? And you believe this exactly why? I really, really believe that spending 20 minutes or half an hour or an hour soothing and rescuing abused and homeless animals (or tending to those who are lonely or afraid in some precarious situation in their lives) far outweighs sitting with your eyes closed repeating a meaningless sound. Sorry, but it has yet to be proven to my satisfaction that practicing TM is doing one damn thing for the planet. Thus, no good karmic payload in any imaginary bank. From: cardemaister@... cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
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From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:37 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. Do you think you could be accused of not seeing the forest for the trees? I predict some day you may be a case study for such an affliction. (what was it I once preached?) - broad comprehension with the ability to focus sharply Hey, have you had your meditation check recently? Hey Stevie, how come you're getting your knickers in a twist over this? Let me look down there. I hadn't been aware of that. It was me who started out blithely commenting on Crowley's get ups. Yes, I was aware of that. I was only half serious. Yes, I was aware of that. If you read Seraphita's explanation of why she likes how he dressed and what it signifies to her I agree with much of what she said. I don't recall that. On the other hand, in this day and age and where I am within myself right now I also find it hilariously ridiculous how he layered it on so thickly with his 'ethnic' garb. On one level I admire him his individuality and what he was fighting against in Victoria society but viewed from the 21st C it is also comical (in the way that looking at the hair bands in the 80's dressed is.) Sounds good to me. Now go get your meditation checked. Seems to be working pretty well. Well except for the Now this is how we will meditate, easily morning and evening. D'oh! But if Seraphita thinks he's worth reading, as I said, I'm willing to give him at least a preliminary shot by checking out a Kindle sample. But there's too much still to be read in the world to spend time on him if he doesn't grab me right away. Diary of a Drug Fiend was one I found very insightful. Seraphita, would you recommend this one? I think it's available for Kindle. From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: Re As to Crowley...eee.: authfriend have you ever actually read any of Crowley's books? Don't believe the bollocks the normals say about him. I haven't read any of his books, actually. I have, however, copyedited several books about various occult topics that quoted him extensively, and the personality that came across always just set my teeth on edge. I have no idea if the authors of these books were normals, but they weren't denouncing him or anything. I'm also sort of allergic to that whole area of modern occultism. Sorry if I've impugned a hero of yours! Tell you what. I don't want to spend any $$ on his books without previewing them, but if you'll give me a few titles you like and they're available for Kindle, I'll download samples and have a look at those. If any of them appeal, I'll consider buying and reading one. Deal? Here is your man. I think I am having a hard time taking him seriously. Does this make me shallow to judge him on his garb? Or the fact that he would wear this in all seriousness? Sorry, image won't copy, you'll have to check him out in the picture with headdress a la King Tut. http://http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aleister_Crowley,_Golden_Dawn.jpg
